National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123346163#Comment_123346163

Perhaps a little white lie told by the sales rep?

mossie

Circet, who do a lot of NBI installs, have a call centre in Donegal. When I had to contact Vodafone themselves it was definitely not in Ireland.

Ah-Watch

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123346183#Comment_123346183

A bold lie. You won't get customer care from someone in Ireland once set up, plain and simple. To be fair, I don't imagine you'll have any real issues with Vodafone but their tech support aren't fantastic nor is their modem. They're acceptable for the price they charge if that makes sense.

NIMAN

What type of modem do they normally supply and what's the issue with it?

Raichų

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123346703#Comment_123346703

gigabox it’s called I believe.

It’s just a crap modem. Slow speeds and crap signal. I personally found it constantly caused devices to disconnect from WiFi and needed to be manually connected again (often by “forgetting” the network and reconnecting then).

A weird one I had with it too whenever I’d send the Mrs an iMessage if she or I was connected to WiFi the message would take up to 20 mins to deliver to her.

Very strange tbh

NIMAN

What is this yoke called, and what does it actually do in terms of fibre broadband?

Around where I live there are some every couple of hundred yards, then you could get 4 in a 100 yard stretch of road.

The Cush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123347395#Comment_123347395

Passive fibre optic splitter terminal box/closure, aka distribution point (DP). Drop point to the premises. Normally configured for 4 - 8 premises.

Most likely Corning (3M) manufactured. Officially a BPEO fibre cable splice protection closure, an abbreviation of boite protection environmental optique, a name that has been known within the industry for more than a decade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiyeSwhWoXM

No premises connections on that DP yet, only trunk fibre in/out. (Size 0 BPEO)

When our nearest DP is installed it will serve 5 premises

Lewis_Benson

How close does the DP need to be to your house to connect?

I live in the middle of a lane, there is a DP on either end of the lane, the fiber runs passed my house on a pole but no DP outside the house.

The Cush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123349293#Comment_123349293

Someone mentioned here previously they had a run of drop cable a few hundred meters from the DP.

A reel of drop cable is 500m iirc, so a long run won't be an issue.

During the planning stage every premises is allocated a DP so your name is on one of those DPs.

Lewis_Benson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123349330#Comment_123349330

Thanks for that peice of info.

Makes sense as there is only 9 houses on our lane.

jones

Sorry folks i know this thread might not be exactly relevant but i just want to check something in relation to my NBI FTTH connection. My NBI FTTH was installed about 2 years ago but the box itself gets extremely hot and has done since install.

Anyone else notice the same? I've never had any speed issues etc but the heat cannot be good. Its literally hot to the touch just measured 43 degrees now with an infrared thermometer.

Raichų

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123352636#Comment_123352636

Not that hot to be honest? I don’t know if NBI ONT’s are cooled by a fan or anything but I suspect like the rest they’re just passively cooled.

Is it in an attic or somewhere that would not have great ventilation?

mossie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123352636#Comment_123352636

Mine is warmish but not overly hot.

lukin

There's been a distribution point installed on my property which I thought was a bit strange. I am not annoyed about it or anything but I thought it was a bit odd because there is one on the road very near it. To explain properly; there is a DP point on the road and the cable from that goes to a telegraph pole in a field opposite the house (short distance, about 50 yards). The cable goes down the outside of that pole into an underground duct in the field (the telephone cable is already in that). That underground duct is about 100 metres long. It comes out the other side at the base of another telegraph pole at the edge of the field (no ditch there; it's a fence). It runs up the outside of the pole to the DP yoke. The house is at the other side of the fence about 50 metres away. The cable that is to go into the house is wrapped around the DP (see pic).

The cable from the underground duct is marked with an arrow.

I am supposed to be connected in July-Sept.

jones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123353261#Comment_123353261

Yeah I think it's passively cooled there's no fan etc but not sure where the heat is coming from. It's located in the sittingroom and not in a hot area of the house. I just don't know how to contact nbi about it. I've emailed but no reply yet.

The Cush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123353680#Comment_123353680

A bit difficult to follow the the routing of the fibre feed cable you describe, I can only assume the cable follows the route of the old copper telephone line, distance between poles/premises is generally 50m. Possibly allows for a easier install on the day.

The loop of cable around the DP is most likely the feed cable and not the drop cable to your house. The drop cable will be run on installation day or closer to installation day, connected to the DP and attached to your house.

That loop of trunk cable around the DP allows the DP to be removed from the pole to be worked on in the back of the van or on the ground without having to disconnect the trunk fibre cable from the DP.

lukin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355371#Comment_123355371

Yes the cable is following the route of the existing copper telephone line.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123354261#Comment_123354261

45 degrees isn't really that hot for this type of equipment tbh.

Raichų

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123354261#Comment_123354261

NBI are not going to reply. You must address this with your provider who will in turn log a fault with NBI

jones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355766#Comment_123355766

Ah ok it seemed very hot to me I'm pretty sure it's been hotter before but haven't measured it. What is causing the heat seeing as it's fibre cable coming into house? I've never noticed other people's fibre boxes being hot so assumed there was an issue with mine.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355774#Comment_123355774

Weirdly they just replied this morning telling me to do this exact thing.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355810#Comment_123355810

All electronic components that take power and have electronic components in them doing any type of conversion work will create some heat. There isn't inert activity going on inside them.

Have a look at the units operating temp ranges from its manual from manufacturer I'm sure it will be within tolerance

Raichų

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123355810#Comment_123355810

I am shocked they did but not so they advised you to contact your provider if you want to.

Honestly though two years without an issue it really isn’t going to start becoming one I would not worry myself about it.

clohamon

The Department's web page for the NBP intervention map no longer has the map itself.

https://www.gov.ie/en/department-of-the-environment-climate-and-communications/publications/national-broadband-plan-map/

The link to the full page version of the map is below and working but I couldn't find a way to navigate to it from DECC's website.

https://dcenr.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=99c229dc4c414971afc50818b25337ef

*UPDATE - Map has now been restored to DECC web page

iwantbroadband

Is there a limit to the length of the overhead cable from the pole to the house? My existing copper cable runs approx 60m from pole to house, hoping there isn't any hard limits with the NBI fibre cable? Plus it will probably need to go another 15m to actually get into the house.

Raichų

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123367436#Comment_123367436

should be grand

The Cush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123367436#Comment_123367436

Someone mentioned here previously they had a run of drop cable a few hundred meters from the DP.

A reel of drop cable is 500m iirc, so a long run won't be an issue.

Poles are placed about 50m apart, closer if required.

A fibre signal can run 20km unbroken, unamplified.

clohamon

Planning refused for Aran Islands fibre broadband pole as residents express concerns - The Independent

The application is here and the planners report includes all the various local objections. Additionally, failure to consider co-location options was noted in her conclusion.

Based on this assessment, it is considered that the proposed development would be overbearing for existing residential development and would seriously injure the amenities of the area and of property in the vicinity. The technical justification as submitted does not fully meet to the satisfaction of the Planning Authority either; the applicant has not satisfactorily addressed matters with respect to co-location

Interesting to see if NBI go to appeal (considering the backlog at An Bord Pleanala) or try and work up an alternative that suits the locals and planners.

The Cush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123368157#Comment_123368157

Have the other two islands been connected yet?

clohamon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123368631#Comment_123368631

The planning seems to have been approved on the other two. Might check a few Eircodes.

…and I've just noticed there's already a second application in for Inis Oirr at a different location close by. It's awaiting further information.

SCHEDULE OF FURTHER INFORMATION REQUIRED

Having regard to Policy Objective ICT 4 and DM Standard 42, part d) and f) of the Galway
County Development Plan 2022-2028, please address matters with respect to co-location
options associated with the proposed telecommunication structure and also provide a
statement of compliance with the International Radiation protection Association (IRPA)
Guidelines or the equivalent European Pre-Standard 50166-2 for the further consideration
of the Planning Authority.

Digidaz

Hi All, In relation to being setup for fibre - New poles installed 5 weeks ago, fibre cable attacked to poles today - Next I assume it’s the (Passive fibre optic splitter terminal box/closure - distribution point (DP)) that will get attached to the poles next before everything gets connected and then we can pre-order from a supplier.

My question anyone have any rough estimates how long it takes between the stages? I’m North East Galway and the NBI estimate is Jan - June 2026. So it does seem to be ahead of schedule or is a long wait still to be expected?? Thanks