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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,355 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Who gives a crap.fags break down easily. Especially in Irish weather. No one wants their car stinking of stale cigerrettes so you're not going to leave them in the ashtray.

    People have little to be worrying about if they're upset by a few fag buts which dissappear after a few weeks of rain.
    They don't magically disappear after a few weeks. They may get broken up but last for decades in nature. It is a type of plastic


  • Registered Users Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    Who gives a crap.fags break down easily.

    Yes, the magic Elves come out at nighttime and clean up everything that's thrown out of a car window.

    God forbid you have to clean up your own mess like an adult.
    Or have your own ashtray in the car and clean it out when you get home.

    Just be aware that when you do it, there's people watching who immediately label you as an inconsiderate scumbag. You're thrown in the same category as people who park in disabled spaces.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭Winning_Stroke


    The only time its acceptable to throw a cigarette butt is when it's into a puddle of gasoline, that catches fire and spreads to a nearby car/building/plane which immediately explodes


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭dotsman


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    They don't put bins in cars either, does that make it okay to fling used fast food wrappers out the window? Why should smoker's be given a pass on littering?

    A used food wrapper is not on fire. A cigarette butt is.

    Unless a car has a dedicated and suitable ashtray (modern cars don't), then it would be extremely dangerous for a driver to not throw the butt out the window.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    dotsman wrote: »
    A used food wrapper is not on fire. A cigarette butt is.

    Unless a car has a dedicated and suitable ashtray (modern cars don't), then it would be extremely dangerous for a driver to not throw the butt out the window.

    It's a danger of their own making. They can stop and dispose of it properly


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    You can get the reg and report it to the litter warden. They will get a fine. Even better if you have a dash cam. You might have to go to court if they dispute it.

    I have always been tempted to do it myself. Never have though.

    Yes you can I done it before, a prick in front of me threw his but out the window then some other papers, when I blew the horn at him he gave me the wank4r gesture out the window. All was on dash cam and he was fined in court for it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Not really. Just an email or phone call with the date and reg.
    I reported illegal dumping dozens of times. Once they find anything that can identify the dumper. Fine will be issued. Dash cam might be enough.

    Once I was asked to go to court. I said no. As they where settled travelers that lived nearby. It’s only if they dispute it.
    Not being smart but if the person denies it it's your word against theirs surely. That can't count as proof?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,931 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Truckermal wrote: »
    Yes you can I done it before, a prick in front of me threw his but out the window then some other papers, when I blew the horn at him he gave me the wank4r gesture out the window. All was on dash cam and he was fined in court for it!



    fair play, did you have to go to court or did you have dash cam footage of the tramp?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,475 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    People who smoke are just sticking their fingers up at the whole of society anyway with their disgusting habits.

    Bunch of stale smelly people stuck in the 1940’s.

    I’m not surprised the litter the place all the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    fair play, did you have to go to court or did you have dash cam footage of the tramp?

    Yes had to attend court too which was enjoyable!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    teabag in a recyclable cup works a treat, pop the lid on after and rinse when ya get home. boom hack the system.
    no asstray in 09 van? no problem, im still gonna have my smoke on way 2 work and not choke some hard pressed wren


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    LaFuton wrote: »
    ....... and not choke some hard pressed wren

    I hope you don’t mean a girl the from Women’s Royal Naval Service :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    i dont i dont i swear
    was referring to the fluffy little bird with the loud distinct voice.
    oh dear


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭auspicious


    It's also extremely toxic to wildlife.

    Yes toxic. Some birds line nests with them and chicks end up lying on them.
    Some birds will even feed them to unfortunate
    chicks.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/environment/bird-cigarette-butt-chick-picture-florida-beach-photograph-rubbish-a8980676.html%3famp


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    They stopped putting ash trays in cars years ago. What else are they supposed to do with a lit cigarette?
    I suppose they could have a bottle of water in the car or something for cigarette waste. If you don't have an extinguishable in the car, I guess throwing them away is the only option.
    They can either shove them down their throats or up their @rse. Littering is disgusting.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Who gives a crap.fags break down easily. Especially in Irish weather. No one wants their car stinking of stale cigerrettes so you're not going to leave them in the ashtray.

    People have little to be worrying about if they're upset by a few fag buts which dissappear after a few weeks of rain.

    This is the most ignorant thing I have read in a while. And that's saying a lot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,931 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Truckermal wrote: »
    Yes had to attend court too which was enjoyable!



    if only everyone else did likewise. some people would throw litter on the ground if a bin was the easier option.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,651 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Last one I seen with one was a 2010 Toyota, which had a removable one like the one above.

    2013 Mondeo has one in the back. I believe the front was an optional extra which slotted into the cup holder


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Flaccus


    Sort of related but was walking past the chicken hut in limerick city the other day and a wnker double parked in his van flicks his butt out the drivers window. Thought nothing of it till I passed and heard a roar. His equally tosser of a missus on the passenger side threw a load of chicken hut wrappers and boxes out the window into the path of a pedestrian despite a bin beside the vehicles door. Pure ignorance and scumbaggery.

    Dejavu as the exact same thing happened me 10 years ago in same spot. Except I told the moron I would be straight down to the station with his reg if he didn’t pick up his rubbish which he did.

    In this scenario the pedestrian fired the rubbish back through the passenger window and yer one freaked out for a good 5 minutes with her boyfriend throwing shapes but ultimately did fa as a crowd had gathered and shamed them into disposing of their crap. Total scumbags.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    This is the most ignorant thing I have read in a while. And that's saying a lot.


    You must live an awful sheltered life if that's the most ignorant thing you have ever read.


    We don't live in the australian outback where there's a risk of fire. The fag butt, firstly, is barely noticeable due to it's brown colour, and secondly breaks down to nothing after a matter of days or weeks. It's a victimless crime.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    You must live an awful sheltered life if that's the most ignorant thing you have ever read.


    We don't live in the australian outback where there's a risk of fire. The fag butt, firstly, is barely noticeable due to it's brown colour, and secondly breaks down to nothing after a matter of days or weeks. It's a victimless crime.

    "Most ignorant thing I've read in a while, I didn't say that I've ever read. Can you not read properly?

    Risk of fire is not the only problem with littering cigarette butts. But I suppose if you read anything else properly, you would have already seen those points here have been made.

    Filters actually take 10 years to break down, even then the microplastics and their effects continue to cause problems. They also negatively impact wildlife (as already pointed out)

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/08/cigarettes-story-of-plastic/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Flaccus wrote: »
    Sort of related but was walking past the chicken hut in limerick city the other day and a wnker double parked in his van flicks his butt out the drivers window. Thought nothing of it till I passed and heard a roar. His equally tosser of a missus on the passenger side threw a load of chicken hut wrappers and boxes out the window into the path of a pedestrian despite a bin beside the vehicles door. Pure ignorance and scumbaggery.

    Dejavu as the exact same thing happened me 10 years ago in same spot. Except I told the moron I would be straight down to the station with his reg if he didn’t pick up his rubbish which he did.

    In this scenario the pedestrian fired the rubbish back through the passenger window and yer one freaked out for a good 5 minutes with her boyfriend throwing shapes but ultimately did fa as a crowd had gathered and shamed them into disposing of their crap. Total scumbags.

    Normal people need to challenge these type of scumbags constantly for any change to happen. A few times when I have I've gotten very aggressive responses but won't stop me.

    Countries like Finland this would not be tolerated and people dropping fag butts would be berated. They have a lot more respect for their country than a lot of people here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    This is the most ignorant thing I have read in a while. And that's saying a lot.
    It's another attack on rural Ireland


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    "Most ignorant thing I've read in a while, I didn't say that I've ever read. Can you not read properly?

    Risk of fire is not the only problem with littering cigarette butts. But I suppose if you read anything else properly, you would have already seen those points here have been made.

    Filters actually take 10 years to break down, even then the microplastics and their effects continue to cause problems. They also negatively impact wildlife (as already pointed out)

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/08/cigarettes-story-of-plastic/

    Pintman must be a troll. No actual thinking breathing human could hold that opinion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 828 ✭✭✭2lazytogetup


    thanks for responses all. ill be blasting the horn at them the next time i see it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Pintman must be a troll. No actual thinking breathing human could hold that opinion.

    Let's hope so, but the amount of rubbish found thrown outside would suggest people like that live and breathe here. Unreal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,602 ✭✭✭Feisar


    You can get the reg and report it to the litter warden. They will get a fine. Even better if you have a dash cam. You might have to go to court if they dispute it.

    I have always been tempted to do it myself. Never have though.

    Will they though? It's purely one persons word against another's.

    For example you report me to the warden, driver of reg XX-XX-XXXX threw a cigarette butt out their car window outside Ballyhaunis heading to Kilkelly on the 21/01/20.
    Let's say proper channels are followed, will I get a letter in the door, either pay fine or go to court? Will they issue a fine on the back of a randoms word?
    If I dispute it will we end up in court? Lets say there is no CCTV and you were unable to get a witness? Seems unlikely anything would come of it.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Woman got off a bus recently, walked past a street bin, she literally had to brush past it, do you think she put her rubbish in it.... No she decided the river was a better option....

    Plastic is really really bad for the environment and the rivers and the sea are been destroyed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,271 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Driving along and witnessed driver in front throwing their cigarette butt out the window. my immediate reaction was that this was disgusting, and rude. I wanted to blow the horn but resisted.

    But then i thought a cigarette is paper and leaves.
    Am i overreacting? is it that bad as likely to decompose quickly enough.

    Thoughts.

    the butt isn't

    it's disgusting throwing butts about the place but then smoking and smokers are rather disgusting


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,271 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    They don't put bins in cars either, does that make it okay to fling used fast food wrappers out the window? Why should smoker's be given a pass on littering?

    Sadly we share our small island with a lot of disgusting pigs, hedges and ditches beside our roads are covered with stuff people have flung out of cars.

    the 'settled' travellers around North County Dublin love nothing better than fly tipping and getting the council to pick up their waste...

    It boils my blood seeing household waste dumped at the side of the road. Maybe society isn't for such people..


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