Australian Open 2020

walshb

walshb wrote: »

It’s as much Thiem not being ruthless or ultra efficient. There’s just an air of inconsistency about him..

Nole to me looks past his better days...slower...

come on, ND did come back here - champion grit shown to up his level. only true players can do that.

mixed up his game plan at key points (e.g. serve volley). got his serve working again.

walshb

glasso wrote: »

come on, ND did come back here - champion grit shown to up his level. only true players can do that.

He did...just a fair few easy points given...

This new crop players just missing that specialness!

walshb

walshb wrote: »

He did...just a fair few easy points given...

This new crop players just missing that specialness!

ND is not as good as his very best but he has that ability to find a way to get back in - it's amazing. he has done it so many times.

all in the balance still.

walshb

UE again hurting Thiem...

lostcat

glasso wrote: »

ND is not as good as his very best but he has that ability to find a way to get back in - it's amazing. he has done it so many times.

all in the balance still.

On a knife edge atm
Thiem still going big, credit to him, but Djokovic has tidied up a lot

Slashermcguirk

Djokovic is such a clutch player

walshb

FFS...Thiem...come on!

walshb

walshb wrote: »

FFS...Thiem...come on!

Chance gone a-begging. Cannot help but grudgingly admire Djokovic, find him difficult to watch but he produces when it matters the most.

walshb

Thiem has possibly two games to break Nole...if he is championship material he has to get one at least..

lostcat

Thiem digging in here, hats off

Slashermcguirk

Djokovic is just such a good player, so complete and his self belief is incredible. When up against it he delivers time and again. Still a long way to go though. Thiem has played super tennis. A future world number one

lostcat

lostcat wrote: »

Thiem digging in here, hats off

a proper contest.

Djokovic is a mental strength colossus of the game. You can only admire the pure competitive grit that he can summon to pull things out of the fire when the chips are down and turn momentum around. Even after winning so much over the years.

pretty much everyone here wrote him off after the third set - do so at your peril.

walshb

Thiem doesn’t deserve this with all his UEs

lostcat

walshb wrote: »

Thiem doesn’t deserve this with all his UEs

Dkokovic hit plenty in the middle sets

Novak Djokovic

8 Australian Open finals, 8 Australian Open titles.

lostcat

Not sure how he got his game back together after sets 2+3, but serious props to Djokovic.

Thiem will win a few slams, he was really good for large parts of that.

RosyLily

Great tussle between Thiem and Djokovic!! I didn't know what to expect from the match but it was a good one. Bit of a subdued celebration from Nole.

Hats off the Dominic - he's getting closer and closer to his first Grand Slam. I think he can do it this year.

lostcat

lostcat wrote: »

Not sure how he got his game back together after sets 2+3, but serious props to Djokovic.

Thiem will win a few slams, he was really good for large parts of that.

He will. You have to earn a grand slam on this side of the game and it will mean so much when he gets it.

Could even maybe get his slam in France. But there again he'll be up against a great who won't hand over the title on a plate.

josip

RosyLily wrote: »

Hats off the Dominic - he's getting closer and closer to his first Grand Slam. I think he can do it this year.

True, would like to see him do it in Paris.

Safin is a dude!

If he had ND's headspace he would have had a lot more GS's.

lostcat

Not a classic I suppose but very engrossing nonetheless. Dkokovic back to No 1 and likely to hold it for a few months.

It still feels like there will be a new slam winner sooner rather than later, but they won't be handed it.

lostcat

Very composed young man, Thiem, excellent speech

RosyLily

josip wrote: »

True, would like to see him do it in Paris.

A definite possibility!! Faced Nadal twice in the final and has gotten closer each time. He'll fancy his chances. That is if nothing happens between now and then.

Will be interesting to see how he gets on at the US Open as well.

lostcat

lostcat wrote: »

Not a classic I suppose but very engrossing nonetheless. Dkokovic back to No 1 and likely to hold it for a few months.

It still feels like there will be a new slam winner sooner rather than later, but they won't be handed it.

yes the men and women's game might get the same money at the GS's (even though the viewing figures are way higher for the mens overall) so they should be directly compared but as contests and weight of value they are not close to being in the same league.

yesterday we had 3 double-faults in one single game, the final game, to hand over the title on a plate.

yes we had double faults here - one even deciding the set but only max 1 in a game. 3 in a game is below club standard. disgraceful for what is supposed to be the pinnacle of tennis and just an awful indictment.

11 different winners of the last 13 women's slams - they can't all be very good and they aren't. none are remotely approaching the titans that are around on the men's side. these titans are failing and faltering but still rage against the dying light.

yerwanthere123

Can't see Thiem beating Nadal at RG at all, if anything I think he had a better shot at winning today.

velo.2010

I don't know what to make of Djokovic's antics. He has a history of amazing turnarounds after looking injured or tired.

I followed the text updates on BBC and, by all accounts, at the end of the third set it looked over for him - then the extended bathroom break. Is it mind games, a magic sponge, or maybe some supplement/drink that has to be consumed in such a way that would draw whispers if shown on TV?

Whatever the reasons for these comebacks, it only adds to the lack of respect for a guy who should have more after winning so much.

Slashermcguirk

Players are supervised when going off court. Lots of players go off court between sets. Federer did it vs Sandgren at a crucial moment. Nadal does it frequently. Lots of players do it and all players are supervised

velo.2010 wrote: »

I don't know what to make of Djokovic's antics. He has a history of amazing turnarounds after looking injured or tired.

I followed the text updates on BBC and, by all accounts, at the end of the third set it looked over for him - then the extended bathroom break. Is it mind games, a magic sponge, or maybe some supplement/drink that has to be consumed in such a way that would draw whispers if shown on TV?

Whatever the reasons for these comebacks, it only adds to the lack of respect for a guy who should have more after winning so much.

josip

Slashermcguirk wrote: »

Players are supervised when going off court. Lots of players go off court between sets. Federer did it vs Sandgren at a crucial moment. Nadal does it frequently. Lots of players do it and all players are supervised

Go away you with your inconvenient facts.

the rules are the same for all players.

Djokovic gets all the focus whenever he goes to chop a log or whatever he is at but as pointed out he's not the only player who does it - even St. Roger does.

You still have to beat your opponent either way.

He just happens to have the comeback ability at a level never seen before.

velo.2010

Slashermcguirk wrote: »

Players are supervised when going off court. Lots of players go off court between sets. Federer did it vs Sandgren at a crucial moment. Nadal does it frequently. Lots of players do it and all players are supervised

A 7 minute break?

The point is, if it transpires that there is noting wrong a player - which seems to be the consensus regarding Djokovic - then what, if any, measures can be taken to punish or discourage such behaviour.

A quick search and you'll find numerous players owning up to taking time out to get their heads together: Murray, Federer, and Becker admitted as much for Djokovic during his Wimbledon final with Federer.

I like the suggestion of the opposing player being able to talk with their coach if a player walks off the court to do anything other than take a pee.