J. K. Rowling is cancelled because she is a T.E.R.F [ADMIN WARNING IN POST #1]

Gervais08

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Not sure how you got that from my post but I’ve never made out like I represent any majority? I was referring to people like the organisation that JK chose to mock because they used language that JK objected to, in referring to the same thing. They weren’t claiming to represent the majority either, they were being inclusive of women who don’t refer to themselves as women, the aim of the organisation being to educate as many people in developing countries as possible about menstrual health.

There are a few women who are nuts like that, but I wouldn’t choose to mock them for it any more than I wouldn’t choose to mock JK for the fact that no amount of plastic surgery and makeup could disguise the sheer misery so evident in her unfortunate visage.

Misogyny 101 - criticise a woman’s looks at the same time as criticizing her views.

One eyed Jack

Gervais08 wrote: »

Misogyny 101 - criticise a woman’s looks at the same time as criticizing her views.

Only a few nuts and their achingly woke supporters would read what I wrote and call it misogyny, they’d also be the same type that bleat “facts don’t care about your feelings”. That’s why I said I wouldn’t say it, because while it is a fact, it would hurt her feelings.

From the horses mouth, as it were -

JK Rowling: Sneers about my 'scruffy' appearance really hurt me


And yet she has become so much like one of the characters in her books, that either she doesn’t realise it, or just doesn’t care how she can hurt other people and doesn’t think she should consider that fact before she tries to look for validation on Twitter by attempting to humiliate other people who don’t share her worldview -


Draco is the prototypical spoiled, rich brat; he believes that his family's wealth and social position gives him the right to bully those poorer than himself, such as Ron Weasley. He also insults Hermione Granger's Muggle-born status by referring to her as a "Mudblood", a term that, as stated by Hagrid, is one not used in civilised conversations. As Rowling explained in 1999, "He's a bigot and he's a bully, and as I say, in the most refined sense, he knows exactly what will hurt people".

ingalway

Only nasty old TERF's would be against 9 year old children in drag, with adults in drag, exploring their gender and sexuality.

Hopefully Biden/Harris can incorporate into their education agenda, which trans children will be advising on.

Brave New World.
https://twitter.com/Belstaffie/status/1325232284673470467?s=19

Eric Cartman

ingalway wrote: »

Only nasty old TERF's would be against 9 year old children in drag, with adults in drag, exploring their gender and sexuality.

Hopefully Biden/Harris can incorporate into their education agenda, which trans children will be advising on.

Brave New World.
https://twitter.com/Belstaffie/status/1325232284673470467?s=19

dear lord thats sick.

suicide_circus

Yeah you gotta break down those sexual taboos between adults and kids

derfderf

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

Ouch!
Ok, so it probably come off as a bit snarky. Apologies. Luckily for my feels, I’m not sure exactly which insult **** is.

Look. It’s not exactly rocket science. Men have higher bone density than women because testosterone. Women lose considerable bone density after menopause due to lack of estrogen for sure, but mostly because estrogen prevents bone resorption more than laying down mineral bone.
A basic biology text book will confirm, so I didn’t feel the need to cite sources.
Interestingly, the work that Word Rugby reviewed suggested that MtF lost some bone density due to androgen antagonists (not surprising) but if they were trained during transition, this loss in density was minimised and in some cases was negligible. Males, whether they transition or not, have higher bone density than females, whether they transition or not.

It was the F one :-). What I'd read, and heard a few discussions on, was that testosterone was the main driver for increasing bones density, and the biggest impact is during puberty. After that, estrogen has a far bigger impact on density retention. The majority of people that transition would only start after puberty, so it did make sense to me, but I'm always open to corrections like above.

political analyst

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/prison-officers-demand-guidelines-on-transgender-inmates-39637102.html

Just as male prison officers from the specialist Operational Support Group (OSG) were due to search the prisoner, this was halted as she identifies as female.

Then, a number of female prison officers were requested to search the inmate.

However, this was duly halted as it is not permitted for women officers to search men, and the inmate in question has not had gender reassignment surgery.

OSG units across the prison service consist of specially trained officers to prevent the direction of crime from prisons and to detect prohibited articles.

A well-placed prison source said: "There was mass confusion when this issue arose. Basically no one was permitted to search this prisoner because we have no clear guidelines or policies on how to deal with transgender inmates.

"No one searched this inmate in the end and a wand metal detector was used to scan the inmate.

"No weapons were found on the prisoner. But this is not an ideal search method by any means. A physical search is far more effective. We are going to need a policy in writing on how to deal with this specific type of prisoner.

"Because in line with society, we will see more transgender inmates coming through the system."

Why didn't the prison officers just get a doctor to examine the prisoner instead?

political analyst

spook_cook wrote: »

Why risk it? The looney brigade would be all over it. Would you just wave them through as happened, or risk something where the Woke Media cries to the government who promptly throw the staff under the bus?

Why risk putting the lives of other prisoners and staff in danger? After all, there was an outcry in the Karen White case.

keano_afc

ingalway wrote: »

Only nasty old TERF's would be against 9 year old children in drag, with adults in drag, exploring their gender and sexuality.

Hopefully Biden/Harris can incorporate into their education agenda, which trans children will be advising on.

Brave New World.
https://twitter.com/Belstaffie/status/1325232284673470467?s=19

If you think Biden/Harris are going to do anything to push back against the trans agenda, you're going to be disappointed.

One eyed Jack

political analyst wrote: »

Why risk putting the lives of other prisoners and staff in danger? After all, there was an outcry in the Karen White case.

This wasn’t about whether or not the lives of other prisoners and staff would be put in danger, it was simply about the prison officers wanting to avoid any future allegations of impropriety during strip searches because of there being no policy regarding inmates who are transgender, as happened in the UK -


The Ministry of Justice (MoJ) failed to prevent systemic breaches of inmates human rights when they were unlawfully strip searched at a privately-run jail.

The searches involved four inmates at HMP Peterborough in 2017, including one inmate who was menstruating.

Sodexo runs the prison and admitted it had breached MoJ privacy rules through its failure to properly train staff.

The MoJ should have had effective safeguards in place against privacy breaches, the High Court has ruled.

The inmates involved in the strip searches in July and September 2017 were three women and a transgender prisoner, who was transitioning from female to male.


HMP Peterborough inmates were illegally strip-searched

Gatling

This is an interesting read


https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/the-lgb-alliance-is-not-transphobic-we-are-just-trying-to-protect-ourselves-39727908.html

ingalway

keano_afc wrote: »

If you think Biden/Harris are going to do anything to push back against the trans agenda, you're going to be disappointed.

Believe me I was being very ironic here. The bull**** already coming from Biden/Harris on this leaves me in no doubt where they are going. Harris already put her pronouns in her Twitter bio.
She can prostrate herself before the trans identifying males but it will never be enough for them and they will eventually rip her to shreds.

jam_mac_jam

There really is a gap in the market for a cis only lesbian dating app.

kowloon

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

There really is a gap in the market for a cis only lesbian dating app.

What would you call it? Maybe something along the lines of one word and catchy like Tinder or Grindr. Scissr?

jam_mac_jam

kowloon wrote: »

What would you call it? Maybe something along the lines of one word and catchy like Tinder or Grindr. Scissr?

Scissr. Oh dear. Ha ha.

One eyed Jack

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Scissr. Oh dear. Ha ha.

Already been done...


https://apps.apple.com/app/scissr-lesbian-dating-queer/id945857765?uo=5


Not strictly limited to lesbians though, so doesn’t fit the, erm... brief...

And “womxn”?

kowloon

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Already been done...


https://apps.apple.com/app/scissr-lesbian-dating-queer/id945857765?uo=5


Not strictly limited to lesbians though, so doesn’t fit the, erm... brief...

And “womxn”?

Well, there's another idea that I can't follow through on. :mad:

ProfessorPlum

political analyst wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/prison-officers-demand-guidelines-on-transgender-inmates-39637102.html



Why didn't the prison officers just get a doctor to examine the prisoner instead?

Doctors can only examine people when it is medically indicated. They would be open to charges of assault and malpractice if they were to get involved in those kind of searches.

Annasopra

Gatling wrote: »

This is an interesting read


https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/the-lgb-alliance-is-not-transphobic-we-are-just-trying-to-protect-ourselves-39727908.html

Not really - its just propaganda that the existence of trans people threatens the existence of LGB people. I've noticed that lately - the argument boils down to "trans people existing is homophobia" - Its a cheap divisive absurd tactic.

suicide_circus

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

cheap divisive absurd tactic.

fighting fire with fire?

derfderf

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Not really - its just propaganda that the existence of trans people threatens the existence of LGB people. I've noticed that lately - the argument boils down to "trans people existing is homophobia" - Its a cheap divisive absurd tactic.

No, they're just sick of having to justify their sexuality being based on biological sex, rather than gender.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Not really - its just propaganda that the existence of trans people threatens the existence of LGB people. I've noticed that lately - the argument boils down to "trans people existing is homophobia" - Its a cheap divisive absurd tactic.

No, it’s a response to a propaganda piece.

The bolded bit is dishonest (surprise, surprise) - transgender people insisting that they are lesbian or gay because of how they identify is the issue. A few weeks back, Panti Bliss asked for evidence that lesbians had been called transphobic for not wanting to sleep with or date biological males who identify as women. He was inundated. Absolutely inundated. And duly ignored it all. :rolleyes:

Annasopra

derfderf wrote: »

No, they're just sick of having to justify their sexuality being based on biological sex, rather than gender.

Nah. Thats bollox. The vast majority of Cis LGB people do no such thing.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Nah. Thats bollox. The vast majority of Cis LGB people do no such thing.

Who cares what the percentage is? If any gay people have to deal with this, that’s far too many.

derfderf

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Who cares what the percentage is? If any gay people have to deal with this, that’s far too many.

I see Joey skipped over your previous post.

CtevenSrowder

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Nah. Thats bollox. The vast majority of Cis LGB people do no such thing.

Tut tut. Using the word cis when you know many don't like it. Respect only ever goes one way.

Annasopra

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

Tut tut. Using the word cis when you know many don't like it. Respect only ever goes one way.

Its a descriptor like straight and I dont buy the manufactured outrage

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Its a descriptor like straight and I dont buy the manufactured outrage

It’s not up to you to buy it or not. If somebody doesn’t want to be called ‘cis’, the decent thing to do is to not call them by it, like with any unwanted moniker.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

spook_cook wrote: »

I see the "usual types" are outraged at Stephen Fry for daring to narrate the audio book of JK's new story.

They never seem happy or content do they?

There’s no pleasing them. You can never be pure enough. Though Fry did use the term ‘terf’ in a since-deleted tweet a few years back.

CtevenSrowder

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Its a descriptor like straight and I dont buy the manufactured outrage

You don't need to buy it when you revel in it yourself already.