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Is Adult Children Living in the Family Home a Good Thing?

  • 12-12-2019 6:53am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭


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    Thread split from a discussion of fair contributions while living in the family home.


    Am I in the minority here?

    My parents never charged me “rent” and I certainly won’t be charging my boys when they’re older. They can stay as long as they want! I just want us all to enjoy the time together.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    Am I in the minority here?

    My parents never charged me “rent” and I certainly won’t be charging my boys when they’re older. They can stay as long as they want! I just want us all to enjoy the time together.

    I was never charged rent either, but I contributed to food and bills. The OP has said that she wouldn’t describe her mother as “comfortable” financially. She’s on a pension herself, she probably can’t afford to fund her adult children’s every need.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Am I in the minority here?

    My parents never charged me “rent” and I certainly won’t be charging my boys when they’re older. They can stay as long as they want! I just want us all to enjoy the time together.

    You are in the minority here as boards posters do have some very odd opinions on the topic compared to the real word where you and I would be in the majority in seeing paying rent at home as bizarre.

    I never even heard of the concept, didn’t even enter my head that people actually pay rent to live at home until I saw people posting on boards about it.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    if your parents were struggling financially would you still be happy for them to subsidise your living costs?

    I do find it odd that there's a subset of posters that are unable to comprehend that not all families are in a position to subsidise their adult children financially.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    From what I can see, the OP wants to pay their way, and is trying to figure out what the fair share would be - not looking to be subsidized.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    My reply wasn't directed at the OP.

    At the same time, if the OP can keep their consumption of food/electricity/heating etc to below the figure they're planning to contribute the issue of being subsidised shouldn't arise. Personally, I don't see that being much less than €70 - €100 week but I'm sure the OP is in a better position to judge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    I never even heard of the concept, didn’t even enter my head that people actually pay rent to live at home until I saw people posting on boards about it.

    I assume you’ve heard of the concept of people paying for food in dunnes stores, and people paying esb bills, for light and heat and broadband though?


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jlm29 wrote: »
    I assume you’ve heard of the concept of people paying for food in dunnes stores, and people paying esb bills, for light and heat and broadband though?

    All of which have to be paid regardless with only food marginally increasing with an additional person (in my case anyway as I generally only eat dinner at home and not everyday). BB is the same and light and heat change almost nothing with an extra person.

    I also do pay the broadband bill as I had it installed and paying a bill like that is grand but paying rent which hanging over a set amount per week is I just can’t get my head around for someone living at home.

    It’s irrelevant to the topic but I also work on the farm at home in my free time and look after it when my parents are away. But without that I there is no way rent would be asked for (it never was of siblings who don’t work on the farm) and I know for a fact any attempt to volunteer to pay it would result in being told to cop on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    All of which have to be paid regardless with only food marginally increasing with an additional person (in my case anyway as I generally only eat dinner at home and not everyday).

    I also do pay the broadband bill as I had it installed and paying a bill like that is grand but paying rent which hanging over a set amount per week is I just can’t get my head around for someone living at home.

    You still need to understand that your experience is the exception and not the rule.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You still need to understand that your experience is the exception and not the rule.

    I would say it’s the rule. I know a lot of people who lived at home well into their late 20’s and 30’s or still live at home friends, family member etc and I’ve never heard of people paying rent to live at home. Money going the other way (I.e. parents helping out their children with extra money, hosue deposits, help buying cars etc) would be something I’ve heard of whereas paying rent not really.

    I was in my late 20’s before I ever even herd of the concept after reading it on here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    You are in the minority here as boards posters do have some very odd opinions on the topic compared to the real word where you and I would be in the majority in seeing paying rent at home as bizarre.

    I never even heard of the concept, didn’t even enter my head that people actually pay rent to live at home until I saw people posting on boards about it.

    I don't know what generation you grew up in, but when I was growing up from the time we got our first job the 30% rule applied in both mine and all my friends households. Contributing was an expectation from any working person, it was not dependant on the household income.

    Once you started working, it was a flat rate 30% of your take home wage contributed, 30% saved, 30% to live on and the 10% for the occasional splurge. It taught responsibility with money and that accommodation and living costs had to be paid first, before any other bills, including savings.

    I think our parents had the right idea, given the number of grown adults I now see who seem to think they have some sort of entitlement to live with their parents indefinitely while not giving them anything for food or bills. I would be too embarassed to live in another adult's home without paying my way.

    At least, in fairness to the OP, she is not unwilling to contribute.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    I would say it’s the rule. I know a lot of people who lived at home well into their late 20’s and 30’s or still live at home friends, family member etc and I’ve never heard of people paying rent to live at home. Money going the other way (I.e. parents helping out their children with extra money) would be something I’ve heard of much more).

    I was in my late 20’s before I ever even herd of the concept after reading it on here.

    Then you must only interact with people who have a similar background to yourself. I know some who haven't paid for limited stints while moving back to save for a house deposit (basically their parents giving them a dig out to support their saving), or in the case of one while she sorted out some debts, but pretty much anyone I know who lived with their parents longer term as an adult made a proper financial contribution to the household.

    I lived at home a bit later than I would have liked but I paid in consistently since I was in college.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    I would say it’s the rule. I know a lot of people who lived at home well into their late 20’s and 30’s or still live at home friends, family member etc and I’ve never heard of people paying rent to live at home. Money going the other way (I.e. parents helping out their children with extra money) would be something I’ve heard of much more).

    I was in my late 20’s before I ever even herd of the concept after reading it on here.

    I'm in my 40's when I lived at home I contributed as did my brothers. Our parents taught us not to be freeloaders keeping our earnings just to go on the lash. I have read your posts on other threads, suffice to say I don't believe you are being genuine other than to seek to cause annoyance.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm in my 40's when I lived at home I contributed as did my brothers. Our parents taught us not to be freeloaders keeping our earnings just to go on the lash. I have read your posts on other threads, suffice to say I don't believe you are being genuine other than to seek to cause annoyance.

    And my parents don't believe in taking money of their children.

    Look I could understand if parents needed help and a person contributes as a way to help them, but you wouldn't even have to be living at home in order to do that. But just having a set amount thats paid regardless like the 30% mentioned in another post I couldn't get my head around at all and neither would my parents as they dont need the money nor do most parents really at the stage of live most are in when adult children are living at home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    It’s irrelevant to the topic but I also work on the farm at home in my free time and look after it when my parents are away. But without that I there is no way rent would be asked for (it never was of siblings who don’t work on the farm) and I know for a fact any attempt to volunteer to pay it would result in being told to cop on.

    Its irrelevant to the topic but here was me with the impression that all farmers were financially put to the pin of their collars' and needed every cent. :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AulWan wrote: »
    Its irrelevant to the topic but here was me with the impression that all farmers were financially put to the pin of their collars' and needed every cent. :rolleyes:

    If you were relying on the farm you would be on the breadline. It barely breaks even and has been a part-time farm for many years and will be into the future for me. A good off farm income is needed along with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    If you were relying on the farm you would be on the breadline. It barely breaks even and has been a part-time farm for many years and will be into the future for me. A good off farm income is needed along with it.

    So are your parents relying on the farm? Or do they have second jobs?

    All while you live with them for free?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    I would say it’s the rule. I know a lot of people who lived at home well into their late 20’s and 30’s or still live at home friends, family member etc and I’ve never heard of people paying rent to live at home. Money going the other way (I.e. parents helping out their children with extra money, hosue deposits, help buying cars etc) would be something I’ve heard of whereas paying rent not really.

    I was in my late 20’s before I ever even herd of the concept after reading it on here.

    You need to stop thinking about it as "rent", its money towards the cost of the running and upkeep of the home you live in.
    Why would you, a grown working adult, not contribute towards the household expenses? Why should or would other adults have to pay for your board?
    It doesn't matter that your parents own the house, and it doesn't matter that the cost of keeping you there is negligible, the principle is the same.

    They are using their income to subsidise your existence. If they can afford to, that's fine. If they don't want you to pay, that's fine too.
    But if they decided tomorrow to start charging you a few hundred quid for the privilege of living under their roof they'd be quite entitled to do that. You don't seem to think that would be reasonable or fair, but it absolutely would.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AulWan wrote: »
    So are your parents relying on the farm? Or do they have second jobs?

    All while you live with them for free?

    Obviously they don’t, hence why I said you couldn’t rely on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    Obviously they don’t, hence why I said you couldn’t rely on it.

    So your parents must have two jobs then? (farm and other source of income?)

    Yet you don't contribute financially, despite claiming to have a good job.

    I think my parents had the right idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    Ballso wrote: »
    I think the poster you are replying to is special needs, his parents providing for him into late adulthood is fair enough IMO

    If someone has special needs or a disability and cannot work and needs familial support, that's quite different.
    As far as I'm aware that poster is an able bodied independent adult with a full time job and income, but I'm open to correction on that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    All of which have to be paid regardless with only food marginally increasing with an additional person (in my case anyway as I generally only eat dinner at home and not everyday). BB is the same and light and heat change almost nothing with an extra person.

    I also do pay the broadband bill as I had it installed and paying a bill like that is grand but paying rent which hanging over a set amount per week is I just can’t get my head around for someone living at home.

    It’s irrelevant to the topic but I also work on the farm at home in my free time and look after it when my parents are away. But without that I there is no way rent would be asked for (it never was of siblings who don’t work on the farm) and I know for a fact any attempt to volunteer to pay it would result in being told to cop on.

    You appear to have zero capacity to empathise with anyone else’s situation. I’ve never seen anything like it.
    You can only see your own circumstances and the concept of anyone having different circumstances to you seems to be beyond your comprehension.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    Good lord. My sympathy is with the OPs parents. What a situation for them at a time of life when they should be finally able to enjoy their own lives.

    This I do agree with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Good lord. My sympathy is with the OPs parents. What a situation for them at a time of life when they should be finally able to enjoy their own lives.

    I imagine most parents would not share this view. It comes across as very untypically Irish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    Don't underestimate the toll having adult children living at home can take on a parent.

    Living with adult children is not the same as living with 0-21 year olds. The dynamic is completely different. You need a big house if you have to share living space with a lot of adults.

    Living at home once you're an adult is not a right, it is a privilege. I think many forget that once you finish education/leave home, your parents have done their job and are entitled to live their own lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


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    AulWan wrote: »
    Don't underestimate the toll having adult children living at home can take on a parent.

    Living with adult children is not the same as living with 0-21 year olds. The dynamic is completely different. You need a big house if you have to share living space with a lot of adults.

    Living at home once you're an adult is not a right, it is a privilege. I think many forget that once you finish education/leave home, your parents have done their job and are entitled to live their own lives.

    Of course. Living in a house also is not a right. No one said otherwise but it is the traditional approach and is still the norm in many countries where the idea of having your own house before marriage never took off. In many cases its loved by both parties and also eases the housing crisis with many other efficiencies too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    There are benefits to having adult children at home too though!

    I was the only one at home when my mam had a massive stroke. There was no warning signs. She was fine going to bed, not so when she got up. The hospital staff didn't know if it happened in her sleep or it was just "starting to happen " when I saw her. She was in a hospital bed 40 mins after I "found " her. The damage is minimal. I was still living at home much to the contention of my siblings as they had left home at a younger age, but they were happy enough I was still there after the stroke as it meant I was at home to look after her.....they all live in different counties.

    There's also the security side, no easier target than an elderly person on their own!

    There's also company if a spouse has died/left.

    My children are young now and unless they are bringing trouble to my door they will be welcome until they are set up!

    Once everyone acts like an adult it can be beneficial for everyone!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    You may change your mind when they are adults, Princess Calla. I've two adult children living at home and I love them to bits, but I hope to god they are not still here when they are thirty.

    A friend of mine who is a family therapist with CAHMS told me there is a natural separation process that starts to happen between parent and child when the children are in their teens. Basically, it's cutting the apron strings.

    I know many parents in my situation who love their adult kids dearly, but don't want to live with them and would be quite happy to see them leave home. Unfortunately, the housing crisis is interfering what that in a lot of cases, so they feel they have to put up with it.

    I don't rely on my kids for my personal safety either. I'm well able to look after myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    AulWan wrote: »
    You may change your mind when they are adults, Princess Calla. I've two adult children living at home and I love them to bits, but I hope to god they are not still here when they are thirty.

    A friend of mine who is a family therapist with CAHMS told me there is a natural separation process that starts to happen between parent and child when the children are in their teens. Basically, it's cutting the apron strings.

    I know many parents in my situation who love their adult kids dearly, but don't want to live with them and would be quite happy to see them leave home. Unfortunately, the housing crisis is interfering what that in a lot of cases, so they feel they have to put up with it.

    I don't rely on my kids for my personal safety either. I'm well able to look after myself.

    Is there any evidence that single young people are staying at home longer? One of the major slow burner factors in the housing crisis is the explosion in older single people living alone. Slow social decay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Is there any evidence that single young people are staying at home longer? One of the major slow burner factors in the housing crisis is the explosion in older single people living alone. Slow social decay.

    I said in a previous post that I was 30 when I moved out, that was a swipe at me :)

    I don't think unmarried women living at home is a new thing in society.

    Historically women were paid alot less than men, buying a house was usually not an option. Living on your own meant living in a female only boarding house.

    Society is ever evolving. Before you could buy a house on one income ie the man's! Now with both working house prices have increased.... Supply and demand. So to buy a house as a single person now it's alot harder.

    In my case the tiger was roaring loudly when I started looking at houses. They'd jump in price 20/30/40 k in days. Yes plenty of my friends managed it, they either bought together as mates, siblings bought together and obviously couples. In most cases parents helped them out. We're on the property ladder what could possibly go wrong?

    A friend of mine who works in financial services said the point at which they knew things were bonkers was when an actuary couldn't buy a house in Dublin.

    Again in my case the bubble burst and I finally got mortgage approval, I happily started looking around. I had an offer on a lovely new build all was perfect... Sale fell through... Few weeks latter my mam had a stroke. I was the only one living at home so her care fell on me....now I could have said meh I'm leaving best of luck, but that would be abit mean.

    A year later I bought and moved out.....now my parents were 100% against renting it's dead money...before anyone says I could have rented :)

    I had no plans to stay at home that long, teenage me listened to the bs of studying, good leaving cert, college, house but what happens for one generation does not hold true for the next.

    I hope my children's generation has an easier time than the current one is having at the moment. I plan to help them out in anyway I can and if that means we're all living together than so be it.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 59 ✭✭various artistes


    If I had the mortgage paid off I'd like to think I would charge them something, but put it into a savings account and give it back to them as part of the deposit needed for their own homes when the time comes. Be a nice surprise.

    I don't think many people's parents or the school system teach kids the importance of having a savings account from the age of 18. I only started one when I was 29!

    Mind you, in my early 20's house prices were rising so ridicilously that we effectively "knew" at the time that we would never own a house and wouldn't have bothered saving (this being a time when homes on my estate went from about 200k to 380k in about 3 years, at the time it seemed likely, with our admittedtly poor ecoonomic knowledge at the time, that by the time we were 30 they'd be about 700k at that rate).

    It's amazing really, for all the doom and gloom these days housing is a lot more affordable than at the height of the last boom, only difference is no 100% mortgages. Which is a good thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    It’s amazing to me that there are posters like Ignacio Ashy Goose who I think is either engaged and building a house/getting married who has no experience of meeting or mixing with people who don’t come from a very comfortable farming background like his own.
    Imagine reaching your early 30s and not realising or accepting that lots of parents can’t afford to have an adult child living at home without expecting them to make some financial contribution ? It’s like the twilight zone to me.
    For example, people living in council houses have their rent go up by €30 a week minimum if a person aged 18+ comes to live with them.
    Is Ignacio Ashy Goose suggesting that parents on low income should just absorb this??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭niallers1


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    Thread split from a discussion of fair contributions while living in the family home.


    Am I in the minority here?

    My parents never charged me “rent” and I certainly won’t be charging my boys when they’re older. They can stay as long as they want! I just want us all to enjoy the time together.

    Should adult children be living with their parents? Answer = No

    But if they are they should be paying their way while looking for their own place to live. There is no dignity in being a freeloader.

    Parents believe it or not have their own life to live without paying for or still having their adult children to mind

    A parents responsibility is to bring you up and educate you. Part of that education is to give you the skills to lead an independent life away from them. Living with your parents any later than 25 is ridiculous unless it's for some sort of emergency.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I would say it’s the rule. I know a lot of people who lived at home well into their late 20’s and 30’s or still live at home friends, family member etc and I’ve never heard of people paying rent to live at home. Money going the other way (I.e. parents helping out their children with extra money, hosue deposits, help buying cars etc) would be something I’ve heard of whereas paying rent not really.

    I was in my late 20’s before I ever even herd of the concept after reading it on here.

    I paid about 40% of my wages back in the 70’s.

    My own kids didn’t pay anything out of their weekend jobs, but were each expected to put some into a savings tin which was opened December 1st and was our Christmas money.
    They were only expected to pay once in full time employment. I didn’t set a rate, but both were generous. Any extra money was again put into the Christmas tin.
    It teaches budgeting which I’m hoping is standing to them now that they’ve both set up their own homes.

    To answer the OP, there’s nothing wrong with adult children living at home. There’s more to sharing than paying ones way. Respecting each other’s space is very important too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    I said in a previous post that I was 30 when I moved out, that was a swipe at me :)

    No, I didn't notice what age you left home at.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,527 ✭✭✭Masala


    My kids blow their wages on Overseas holidays, meals out 2-3 times a week and clothes that never get worn.

    So taking rent is a way of getting them ready for the real world. I am not subsidizing their lifestyle and I have told them that. 5ey can rent downtown and see how good they had it at home. Kids making €40k a year should pay rent is my feeling anf my rule I& living at home getting fed and watered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,559 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


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    Am I in the minority here?

    My parents never charged me “rent” and I certainly won’t be charging my boys when they’re older. They can stay as long as they want! I just want us all to enjoy the time together.

    You know what.. the vision I have in my head is of my adult children staying with us, with decent jobs/careers, being fiscally prudent, saving and building their own independent wealth. So when they do leave the house they are armed with both an understanding of money management and a decent wealth fund to get them started on their own. I'd be more than happy to fund that and never seek a cent from any of them.

    However, work shy, dropping out of college, money wasted routinely on drugs or alcohol - you're getting charged rent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭nutjobb


    My own experience, I'm 28 now and so is my girlfriend, we are living with her parents just over two years now while we stepped up our saving for a deposit, after renting ourselves for 4 years previous. We are now sale agreed and hopefully will be good to go in Feb/March.

    We contribute 50 euro each weekly as well as doing the recycling every week. For one year I worked every Saturday for her father while he was running a business operating machinery, I did this largely for free.

    In my opinion, it brings me great pleasure in being able to be able to give back something to people that have spent years raising you to say thanks. In this case it's my girlfriend's parents but i try to do as much as i can for my own parents too.

    One of the benefits of having kids is having someone to look after you when you get old..


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    Masala wrote: »
    My kids blow their wages on Overseas holidays, meals out 2-3 times a week and clothes that never get worn.

    So taking rent is a way of getting them ready for the real world. I am not subsidizing their lifestyle and I have told them that. 5ey can rent downtown and see how good they had it at home. Kids making €40k a year should pay rent is my feeling anf my rule I& living at home getting fed and watered.

    Anyone on €40k a year can afford their own gaff!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,527 ✭✭✭Masala


    Anyone on €40k a year can afford their own gaff!

    I agree.... but only started in October and still on probation. Gotta build up some savings for deposit etc.


    Is looking but no joy as yet so start looking again after Xmas.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    I moved out as soon as I finished college and got a job so was never really an independent adult in my parents house. But my sister lived there until 35, had a decent job, drank like a fish and partied like a pirate and refused to pay anything towards the house all the time crying poverty and causing rows with my parents, my mother in particular. Made me sick to be honest, thought it was shocking carry on and it's alienated her from myself and my other 2 brothers. We just didn't agree with it at all. I thought she should have been put out on her ear but parents, being parents, will never do this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    I'm 23, live at home, I don't pay up exactly as my folks don't need/want it, but I do buy stuff for the house. Although I might be slightly weird in that I'm saving about 70% of my wages. I'll be able to buy a 2 bed apartment in Dublin in 18 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,527 ✭✭✭Masala


    I'm 23, live at home, I don't pay up exactly as my folks don't need/want it, but I do buy stuff for the house. Although I might be slightly weird in that I'm saving about 70% of my wages. I'll be able to buy a 2 bed apartment in Dublin in 18 months.

    Well done You....as a parent I would be happy to support you as you save like this and have a plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Ive always found a weird divide in this

    in rural places its very common for the son to stay living in the home till he's with a woman he's engaged to / likely to be married to then building a house on the land or getting a house is common . For people from urban environments its common that the son(s) would move out of home, share a house with a few lads and keep that going till he gets a place with an other half.

    For women it seems to make no odds urban or rurally, unless theres a geographic requirement (for college/work) they tend to stay living at home in adult years until they are in a committed relationship / engaged.

    However when women move out they tend to only depend on their parents for advice and/or money (the parents paid for their car, they ring to know where the fuse box is....) but are more independent day to day.

    Lads from urban environments tend to be pretty independent but from rural environments are home every weekend for mammys dinner, do the washing, look after basically everything for them.

    Now these are obviously not a blanket categorisation for everyone but if you think about it, the trend becomes very clear.

    Women tend only to leave home as a requirement of work/college or when they have a partner to handle half the cost and all the non day to day incidents. Where men tend to leave as a right of passage but some cling on to being coddled by parents.

    I left home at 18 and havent depended on the parents for anything since, so I find it very odd that people stay but this is just what ive observed. If I went up to my ma every friday expecting a weekend of dinners and the washing done she'd quite rightly tell me to f*ck off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    My eldest still lives at home but pays rent. She's emigrating next September so tbh I'm only too happy to have her stay, she's going to be gone forever soon :(

    I do charge rent but it's minimal. Luckily we can manage without it. She buys her own food, helps out with pet and baby sitting so I feel we all do okay out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    You are in the minority here as boards posters do have some very odd opinions on the topic compared to the real word where you and I would be in the majority in seeing paying rent at home as bizarre.

    I never even heard of the concept, didn’t even enter my head that people actually pay rent to live at home until I saw people posting on boards about it.

    Another way to look at it is, the property is their parents not theirs. When you become an adult you are expected to use the life skills that you have learned to look after yourself.


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I moved out of home at 17, so there was never an option to pay rent. But when I had part time jobs & summer jobs as a teenager, my Mam took money from me.
    It was to teach me about life & money & budgets etc. I learned the value of money & when I moved away at 17 I took care of myself from then on, I never needed to ask her for a penny.
    Good lessons


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭lozenges


    I moved out of home as soon as I started working full-time. Stayed in parents house during college - was living in Dublin so would have been prohibitively expensive for me to move out, we were a fairly low-income household at the time. Worked part-time every weekend, was expected to (and did) pay a monthly amount to my mum for board/upkeep.
    Quit working during final year of college during which I didn't pay anything, paid her back once I got my full-time job. Have never had anything paid for by her since and would regularly loan or give her funds for things as her income remains much below what mine currently is.

    I definitely think as an adult you should contribute to the household you're living in, it teaches budgeting/saving skills and most importantly independence. I would be ashamed of living off somebody else and not making any sort of contribution, even if it's more as a gesture than anything else.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    You are in the minority here as boards posters do have some very odd opinions on the topic compared to the real word where you and I would be in the majority in seeing paying rent at home as bizarre.

    I never even heard of the concept, didn’t even enter my head that people actually pay rent to live at home until I saw people posting on boards about it.

    Here, in Dublin it would be the norm.
    Kids would hand up a wage to their parents once they start working, full time in my experience.

    When I was still in school and working part time, my parents took nothing. But once I went full time in my professional career, I started paying what I could. For me, at that time it was €50 a week. My brothers done the same.

    My parents provided all foods, utilities etc, it was the very least we could do.
    All of my friends the same. It would be considered normal here in Dublin.

    It was never considered "rent" and my parents never "needed" it as such. It was a financial transaction to help pay your way.
    I started full time work when I was 21 and moved out when I was 25 so they didn't benefit from us being there that long :)

    Same way my nanny thought me when I was getting my first credit union loan to buy a car. She said, it was one thing to buy the car, but I should be throwing a tenner a week in a jar in case something breaks on it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 AbdAlAla


    My parents have received 2 bedroom social house, I've my own room and pay my share of rent. I pay for everything myself including food etc... I see no reason to move out and suffer the consequences of high rents - what good would that do for me? By the way, my father has been working for 2 years and went on Disability allowance because he claims to be sick from work he hasn't been working since 10 years. So I have more years worked than him.


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