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Saracens vs Munster, Sat 14th Dec 3pm; BT Sports

  • 13-12-2019 1:01pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Saracens team:

    15 Max Malins
    14 Sean Maitland
    13 Alex Lozowski
    12 Nick Tompkins
    11 Elliot Daly
    10 Owen Farrell (c)
    9 Richard Wigglesworth
    1 Mako Vunipola
    2 Jamie George
    3 Vincent Koch
    4 Joel Kpoku
    5 George Kruis
    6 Nick Isiekwe
    7 Ben Earl
    8 Billy Vunipola

    Replacements

    16 Tom Woolstencroft
    17 Richard Barrington
    18 Josh Ibuanokpe
    19 Calum Clark
    20 Jackson Wray
    21 Ben Spencer
    22 Manu Vunipola
    23 Duncan Taylor

    Munster:
    Mike Haley; Andrew Conway, Chris Farrell, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; JJ Hanrahan, Conor Murray;
    James Cronin, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Billy Holland; Tadhg Beirne, Peter O’Mahony (C), CJ Stander.

    Replacements: Kevin O’Byrne, Liam O’Connor, Stephen Archer, Fineen Wycherley, Jack O’Donoghue, Nick McCarthy, Dan Goggin, Tommy O’Donnell.

    Munster are up against it as they travel to Barnet to face Saracens. The only change to starting XV sees John Ryan replace Stephen Archer. Tommy O'Donnell replaces the suspended Arno Botha on the bench as Munster retain a 6-2 split.

    Assuming Racing earn the maximum against Ospreys tonight, this is how the Pool will stand tomorrow:

    Racing 17
    Munster 11
    Saracens 6
    Ospreys 0

    If Munster earn an unlikely win, Saracens will be eliminated and the Racing-Munster clash will decide who tops the pool with both teams looking likely to qualify for the knockout stages. If Saracens win then it's all to play for the three teams. Given the lineups it's difficult to see Munster getting a return from this game, with last Saturday looking like a lost opportunity to deny Saracens a LBP.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭ Interested Observer


    https://twitter.com/Saracens/status/1205457342336131073

    It's another mix and match from Saracens but overall much stronger than last weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭ yerrahbah


    Huge performance needed, need at minimum a LBP and deny them a TBP


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭ Interested Observer


    Are Liam Williams and Alex Goode both injured? Neither have featured in either game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭ LuckyGent88


    Are Liam Williams and Alex Goode both injured? Neither have featured in either game.

    Goode out for three months anyway. Not sure on Williams though.

    We have to play our best game in years tomorrow really. Very strong Saracens team who I’m pretty sure are unbeaten at this new stadium. Need to get a minimum LBP anyway and stop them getting four tries.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭ Dbu


    Thats a seriously good Saracens team. Enormous effort needed to get something there, but not impossible


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭ arsebiscuits1


    Can't see this game going any other way that to Sarries. Bookies have Sarries at -12


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Zzippy


    Goode out for three months anyway. Not sure on Williams though.

    We have to play our best game in years tomorrow really. Very strong Saracens team who I’m pretty sure are unbeaten at this new stadium. Need to get a minimum LBP anyway and stop them getting four tries.

    New stadium?? Unbeaten??


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,531 ✭✭✭✭ Eod100


    Think a lbp would be decent result here


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭ errlloyd


    We have to play our best game in years tomorrow really. Very strong Saracens team who I’m pretty sure are unbeaten at this new stadium. Need to get a minimum LBP anyway and stop them getting four tries.

    Remember that time that Alaverati Raka scored 3 tries, did all the work for a fourt and Clermont absolutely ruined Saracens in a monday night snow delayed game? It was excellent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 jr86


    Definitely the right call for Sarries to bring back the world class stars. leicester and Wasps are absolutely awful, relegation really shouldn't be a concern. In any case they will certainly get away with resting players against ospreys and maybe even against Racing, before going all out from the quarters to qualify again for next year

    Reckon they will get the 5 here for sure and deny Munster a LBP


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,610 ✭✭✭✭ phog


    We absolutely have to get something from tomorrow or it's very likely that we can't catch Sarries for 2nd spot

    We'll do a big favour to the other teams if we can knock Sarries out at the pool stages.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭ LuckyGent88


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Remember that time that Alaverati Raka scored 3 tries, did all the work for a fourt and Clermont absolutely ruined Saracens in a monday night snow delayed game? It was excellent.

    I obviously didn’t!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭ Interested Observer


    Sp anything other than a 5-0 leaves Munster's fate in their own hands. Will need a result away to Racing but they've been all over the shop this season so it's doable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭ Riskymove


    Zzippy wrote: »
    New stadium?? Unbeaten??

    about 7 years now

    probably losing its "new" tag alright:pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,224 ✭✭✭✭ Venjur


    If Munster get everything right and get everything out of each of their 23 players then maybe.

    But I think a significant home win is on the cards, 15+.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭ crisco10


    We are overdue a Munster miracle match arent we?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,364 ✭✭✭✭ Del.Monte


    crisco10 wrote: »
    We are overdue a Munster miracle match arent we?


    We are but I've still taken Saracens -11. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 Former Former


    It's a very good Saracens team but still some way short of full strength. If this was in Thomond I'd make Munster favourites.

    A win would be awesome and it's not outside the realm of possibility. A losing BP would still be a good outcome and is achievable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,677 ✭✭✭✭ Faugheen


    I honestly think Munster can take them here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,531 ✭✭✭✭ Eod100


    It's a very good Saracens team but still some way short of full strength. If this was in Thomond I'd make Munster favourites.

    A win would be awesome and it's not outside the realm of possibility. A losing BP would still be a good outcome and is achievable.

    Guess result in TP needs to be taken in context of awful weather too so was never going to be high scoring. Think our defence is good. In attack I think we're kinda half way between Larkham's style and old one which can cause issues. No reason why we can't go out and win but think it will be tough ask against that Saracens team away from home.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Faugheen wrote: »
    I honestly think Munster can take them here.

    I honestly think we'll do well to get anything from this.

    Happy Christmas. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭ Boscoirl


    https://twitter.com/munsterrugby/status/1205774598110875648?s=21


    The way the team is lined out in this pic irritates me more than it should


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Boscoirl wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/munsterrugby/status/1205774598110875648?s=21


    The way the team is lined out in this pic irritates me more than it should

    My eyes! It burns!


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,224 ✭✭✭✭ Venjur


    I think I've just had some kind of a seizure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭ yerrahbah


    Ill say the same thing i said last year before the semi final

    For Munster to have a chance they need.

    To have their best game in years
    Saracens to have an off day
    Refs decisions to go our way

    Today will also give us an idea where we stand relative to the best team in Europe


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭ yerrahbah




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭ budhabob


    ****e, just heard POM is out with a groin injury, JOD to start.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭ razorblunt


    That Saracens line speed is a bit toooo fast.

    A nothing kick from JJ led to this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,212 ✭✭✭✭ Clegg


    That's Beirne's ankle gone.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,121 ✭✭✭✭ Larbre34


    All sorts of mayhem in that ankle twist, poor fella. Could be the season.


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