Saracens vs Munster, Sat 14th Dec 3pm; BT Sports

Vinnie222

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

You're on the pitch listening yeah?

JJ has kicked harder ones than that position.

Are you ? He also missed a certain 3 pointer

PTH2009

**** it

Cant see us being good enough to beat racing away

ScrubsfanChris

Vinnie222 wrote: »

He also missed a certain 3 pointer

And?

100% it was CJs decision not to kick.
We have 2 place kickers on the pitch.

jr86

Credit to Munster they defended heroically at times but same problem, so limited in attack. End of tournament now barring something extraordinary

Still think Sarries will win it out this year

LuckyGent88

That is absolutely criminal to not go and take the 3 points on that penalty opportunity.

Never looked like scoring a try and then go with some bizarre play call. That was something you do when you have a twenty point lead.

Basically not getting that LBP cost us any chance of getting out of the group.

kingofthekong

Jack O’Donoghue done at the scrum by Vunipola for that try, gotta do better than that if he wants that green jersey also sluggish at the ruck for Makos try

leakyboots

He also got a three pointer from same one he missed. Bizarre not to take the kick, brain dead. What's it mean for the rest of the tournament? Need to win away in Paris?

Boscoirl

Would have taken that score at the start of the game. Left the LBP behind us.

aloooof

Disappointing, thought we deserved something out of that. Kleyn and Farrell very good. Don't understand the decision not to take the kick at goal from the penalty near the end. Need to win in Racing now to have any chance.

ScrubsfanChris

leakyboots wrote: »

He also got a three pointer from same one he missed. Bizarre not to take the kick, brain dead. What's it mean for the rest of the tournament? Need to win away in Paris?

We need to win in Paris and for Saracens to beat Racing.
Then a 5 pointer against Ospreys at home.

The draw and no LBP is devastating.

yerrahbah

leakyboots wrote: »

He also got a three pointer from same one he missed. Bizarre not to take the kick, brain dead. What's it mean for the rest of the tournament? Need to win away in Paris?

Pretty much.

That draw against Racing in Thomond was a killer

Clegg

With the new coaching ticket this season was always going to be a transitional one. But I don't think anyone could have expected so many injuries and big name players performing so poorly.

Podge_irl

A losing bonus point and a BP win at home to Ospreys (almost guaranteed) and any kind of win against Racing (needed anyway) and Munster would be through. Now they need two BP wins. Madness.

Squidgy Black

Squidgy Black wrote: »

You could tell after the scrap that Sarries stepped things up a gear. I'd say the physio will be getting a bit of an earful.

what time on the match clock was the scrap?

shootermacg

kingofthekong wrote: »

Jack O’Donoghue done at the scrum by Vunipola for that try, gotta do better than that if he wants that green jersey also sluggish at the ruck for Makos try

Funny you should say that...I remember Ruddock doing the exact same last time leinster played them. In Jack's defence, BV was running accross the pitch not at him.

ScrubsfanChris

Desperately need Joey back in the team
JJ is solid but just too limited. A 10 who put in zero tactical kicks, no line breaks and no idea how to deal with a rush defense.

McCarthy making Murray look like he's playing in slow motion. He's got the rugby brain and the physicality obviously but he's getting slower and slower.

Henry Ford III

JJ cost us again. He should have nailed that penalty.

Eod100

All on Racing match now.

razorblunt

Clegg wrote: »

JOD just isn't a top level player. Has the size but the skills are lacking.

I thought he was decent today but can’t seem to maintain that level . Every summer there seems to be a write up about how he’s raring to go and it relatively fizzles out.

budhabob

Henry Ford III wrote: »

JJ cost us again. He should have nailed that penalty.

The team cost us! Ya, JJ should have gotten the penalty, but we shouldn't have been relying on just that.

Faugheen

Apparently the Munster physio said something about Jamie George’s weight in that kerfuffle.

Munster physio apologised.

leakyboots

People seem to have their mind made up on Murray no matter what. He played well today. McCarthy comes on and throws a couple of snappy passes and suddenly he's a better passer than Murray, give me a break.

shootermacg

leakyboots wrote: »

People seem to have their mind made up on Murray no matter what. He played well today. McCarthy comes on and throws a couple of snappy passes and suddenly he's a better passer than Murray, give me a break.

Thought he had a good game today. McCarthy threw a terrible pass that lead to a try on his last start. He's a good player, but has a bit to go yet.

budhabob

leakyboots wrote: »

People seem to have their mind made up on Murray no matter what. He played well today. McCarthy comes on and throws a couple of snappy passes and suddenly he's a better passer than Murray, give me a break.

+ 1, thought Murray had a very good game today, in fact I thought Munster as a whole played well bar the decision not to go for the 3 points.

yerrahbah

budhabob wrote: »

+ 1, thought Murray had a very good game today, in fact I thought Munster as a whole played well bar the decision not to go for the 3 points.

It was a good performance at the home of the champions.

https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/1205956575531278337

If I'm being super critical here then JOD needs to keep a hold of Billy V and Earls needs to recognise the tackle is being made and to stay out.
Easy to say from here of course

The Vunipolas are world class

Dwarf.Shortage

Any lip reading experts (or enthusiastic amateurs) got a view on what was said to George?

Former Former

EPCR is formally investigating the melee yesterday.

shootermacg

yerrahbah wrote: »

It was a good performance at the home of the champions.

https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/1205956575531278337

If I'm being super critical here then JOD needs to keep a hold of Billy V and Earls needs to recognise the tackle is being made and to stay out.
Easy to say from here of course

The Vunipolas are world class

Earls was at fault for that try if you ask my BV, was going nowhere. He got sucked in by their FB on a dummy run. But them I am being super critical. What was amazing was it was CJ that got across to put BV down in the end.

thomond2006

Former Former wrote: »

EPCR is formally investigating the melee yesterday.

I think we'll see a (suspended) fine and/or warning.

171170

Former Former wrote: »

EPCR is formally investigating the melee yesterday.

So it should. We can't have partisan quacks abusing their privilege of being allowed to stand on sidelines by insulting opposition players. If he is found to have a case to answer then the Medical Council should investigate this clown as well for bringing the profession into disrepute.

Former Former

thomond2006 wrote: »

I think we'll see a (suspended) fine and/or warning.

If things happened the way they are being reported, then I hope there is a ban for the person in question. Rugby is a hard enough game for the ref to control without some idiot on the sideline starting a fight.

171170

171170 wrote: »

So it should. We can't have partisan quacks abusing their privilege of being allowed to stand on sidelines by insulting opposition players. If he is found to have a case to answer then the Medical Council should investigate this clown as well for bringing the profession into disrepute.

I've seen people having a go at George but for me the doctor is not part of the match and should keep his trap shut, he has no business speaking to an opposition player. Secondly as a medical professional what is he doing insulting someone's weight? He seems totally unsuited to being part of the staff for a professional rugby team and he's definitely not a doctor I'd want to be seeing. Of him and George I wonder who woke up this morning regretting their actions more.

shootermacg

Nobody not in the on-field 15 should have been getting involved. But lets not get too wound up about calling a fat guy fat.

He's a bit stupid slagging a player off, considering the English and Irish press will use anything at all to ruin you.

P.Walnuts

It can't have been worse than what Jerry Flannery said to Steve Thompson I would assume.

No-one particularly cared back then, I wouldn't be getting too worked up about it now.

Granted that was between two players, but still, lets just move on.

P.Walnuts

P.Walnuts wrote: »

It can't have been worse than what Jerry Flannery said to Steve Thompson I would assume.

No-one particularly carded back then, I wouldn't be getting too worked up about it now.

Granted that was between two players, but still, lets just move on.

They were both playing the match. It's totally different.

Burkie1203

P.Walnuts wrote: »

It can't have been worse than what Jerry Flannery said to Steve Thompson I would assume.

No-one particularly cared back then, I wouldn't be getting too worked up about it now.

Granted that was between two players, but still, lets just move on.

Munster got a penalty because Owen Farrell ran in. Loads of others did too. It creates needless issues not related to the game. Also How would Munster fans feel if for example as the players ended up over the barrier yesterday if JOD ended up with a broken arm or damaged a knee? All because their team doctor things personal abuse of a player is the way to go?

EPRC have to act to ensure this never happens again

cameramonkey

171170 wrote: »

So it should. We can't have partisan quacks abusing their privilege of being allowed to stand on sidelines by insulting opposition players. If he is found to have a case to answer then the Medical Council should investigate this clown as well for bringing the profession into disrepute.

Very true, according to reports the doctor called him a fat Prik, very unprofessional. I believe obese prik would be correct.

Lucas44

yerrahbah wrote: »

It was a good performance at the home of the champions.

https://twitter.com/threeredkings/status/1205956575531278337

If I'm being super critical here then JOD needs to keep a hold of Billy V and Earls needs to recognise the tackle is being made and to stay out.
Easy to say from here of course

The Vunipolas are world class

Needs to keep his feet in the tackle, sits down here expecting billy to drop the shoulder and gives him the space to get around him because of this

Burkie1203

cameramonkey wrote: »

Very true, according to reports the doctor called him a fat Prik, very unprofessional. I believe obese prik would be correct.

Mark McCall is quoted as saying it was a comment about a member of George's family.

Felix Jones is God.

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Mark McCall is quoted as saying it was a comment about a member of George's family.

What...his mam was a fat prik too?

Dave_The_Sheep

Ah here.

yerrahbah

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Mark McCall is quoted as saying it was a comment about a member of George's family.

He is?

Link please?

Eod100

thomond2006 wrote: »

I think we'll see a (suspended) fine and/or warning.

Probably. Didn't Saracens get fine for not putting people out got launch of Champions Cup? Would expect fine for something like this too.

Squidgy Black

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Mark McCall is quoted as saying it was a comment about a member of George's family.

Are you sure? Sanderson their assistant coach said it was about George's weight.

Burkie1203

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Are you sure? Sanderson their assistant coach said it was about George's weight.

Saw another tweet, trying to locate it


https://twitter.com/SunJonnyFordham/status/1206139872341307392?s=19

Augme

Have Munster officially said anything yet? I haven't seen anything and think it is poor form if they don't. As for the medic, God only knows what he was thinking.

This looked like an absolutely nothing incident but it's approaching career threatening now.

Burkie1203

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This looked like an absolutely nothing incident but it's approaching career threatening now.

Depends what was said.

shootermacg

Augme wrote: »

Have Munster officially said anything yet? I haven't seen anything and think it is poor form if they don't. As for the medic, God only knows what he was thinking.

He didn't kill anyone, this over reaction is to be expected in children and the click-bait press, but us grown ups have a higher tolerance.

If you want to engage in this form of reverse fascism, where a hot blooded mistake is punished by ruining a guys career go ahead.

Burkie1203

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Depends what was said.

I'm not sure that matters anymore. Everyone has their backs up now and the ECPR have gotten involved. Likely to be some consequences now.