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Is Satan running this country? (I'm not religious, but..)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    There's a petition to have Judge Martin Nolan fired. Nolan has been ruling for pedophiles and against ordinary decent people. He's what I would describe as a [****** ***** *********** *****]

    https://www.change.org/p/minister-for-justice-judge-martin-nolan-resignation

    Here's a case where he acquitted a manslaughter case: https://www.thesun.ie/news/4775335/mum-fury-judge-acquitted-man-punching-partner-death/

    Here's an article from the Journal (I'm also banned by the Snowflake Gestapo from commenting there.) https://www.thejournal.ie/2000-signatures-on-petition-calling-for-judge-to-resign-1178460-Nov2013/

    This is the second petition in 5 years calling for this [person] to be fired.
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/judge-is-no-stranger-to-controversy-30197046.html

    And that's just the start of it. Some poor judge is whinging that the public shouldn't be allowed to interfere in the judicial process. Sorry judge but when you won't do your job, others have to do it for you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    Hah! I caught you justifying taxes! If you like them so much would you mind paying mine? You see, you think they're OK. Democracy isn't getting us anywhere so let's go back to meritocracy where those who deserve it get to survive and help those that they know won't steal or waste their assistance.

    You know, instead of helping thieves, rapists, perverts and murderers to survive and thrive.

    I'm doing just fine with this democracy and tax system. How come you aren't?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    I'm doing just fine with this democracy and tax system. How come you aren't?

    Well, the government brought in a law that prevents me from pursuing my college degree that I worked my nads off for.

    House prices are pegged to the global financial system so if you buy property you are enslaving yourself and possibly your chilldren for the rest of your working life.

    And now they want to bring in hate speech laws so we can't tell bankers what a bunch of w****rs they are (not all, obviously but a lot)

    More homelessness than ever, and the country is disappearing into a politically correct (for now) abyss. I shouldn't worry, political correctness is transforming into violence both state and non state mandated. And you think you're immune..

    I could go on. But listen, I'm delighted things are working out for you. For now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    Well, the government brought in a law that prevents me from pursuing my college degree that I worked my nads off for.

    House prices are pegged to the global financial system so if you buy property you are enslaving yourself and possibly your chilldren for the rest of your working life.

    And now they want to bring in hate speech laws so we can't tell bankers what a bunch of w****rs they are (not all, obviously but a lot)

    More homelessness than ever, and the country is disappearing into a politically correct (for now) abyss. I shouldn't worry, political correctness is transforming into violence both state and non state mandated. And you think you're immune..

    I could go on. But listen, I'm delighted things are working out for you. For now.

    Thanks. I, and everyone I know, have never had it so good. I'll ride this horse as long as it will carry me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    Thanks. I, and everyone I know, have never had it so good. I'll ride this horse as long as it will carry me.

    Great! Vote Fine Gael then (or any of the parties in the House of Horrors) 'til you can't vote no more. Don't worry your pretty little head about vice and corruption- It'll never come back to bite you on the ass. Not in a million years.

    Enjoy!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,048 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    Well, the government brought in a law that prevents me from pursuing my college degree that I worked my nads off for.
    Which law is this then?
    House prices are pegged to the global financial system so if you buy property you are enslaving yourself and possibly your chilldren for the rest of your working life.
    So don't buy. You're not entitled to buying a house.
    And now they want to bring in hate speech laws so we can't tell bankers what a bunch of w****rs they are (not all, obviously but a lot)

    More homelessness than ever, and the country is disappearing into a politically correct (for now) abyss. I shouldn't worry, political correctness is transforming into violence both state and non state mandated. And you think you're immune..

    I'd agree with you on most of these, but how is it stopping you from doing ok? Doesn't stop everyone else.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,030 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    Hah! I caught you justifying taxes! If you like them so much would you mind paying mine? You see, you think they're OK. Democracy isn't getting us anywhere so let's go back to meritocracy where those who deserve it get to survive and help those that they know won't steal or waste their assistance.

    You know, instead of helping thieves, rapists, perverts and murderers to survive and thrive.

    Yes, taxes! Those things all developed societies have had for thousands of years! It's a major part of what makes the transition from barbarity to society!

    To pay for those evils called sanitation, healthcare, education, policing, heck even burying the dead! who needs that crap!!1!

    Let the bodies of the poor rot in the street! and if the rich get cholera, then... oh well. Guess libertarianism doesn't really work after all. *shrug*

    You may or may not find the following funny:
    I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.

    “Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”

    “What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”

    “Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”

    The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?”

    “Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”

    “Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.”

    He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.”

    “Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.”

    I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.

    “Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t.

    “Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up.

    “Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?”

    It didn’t seem like they did.

    “Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.”

    Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.

    I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.

    “Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled.

    Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.

    “Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.

    I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!”

    He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.

    “All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”

    “Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.

    “Because I was afraid.”

    “Afraid?”

    “Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”

    I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.

    “Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”

    He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me for arresting him.

    Life ain't always empty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,030 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    House prices are pegged to the global financial system so if you buy property you are enslaving yourself and possibly your chilldren for the rest of your working life.

    Wait, did you defect to PBP???

    Life ain't always empty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,030 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    Democracy isn't getting us anywhere so let's go back to meritocracy

    A major part of Ireland's journey from the poorest country in Europe to among the richest has been state funded third level education (even at a user fee of €3000 a year, it's mostly state funded.)

    We've gone from being renowned as "thick paddies" to having one of the best educated workforces on the planet. We've unlocked the potential of a huge swathe of society when it used to be only the children of the elite who had these opportunities.

    Who knows, with further investment in DEIS schools and third level access programmes we can help another swathe of society make richer lives for themselves and contribute more to society?

    But nah. Taxes bad. Great if you are one of the landed aristocracy, are you by any chance?

    Life ain't always empty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,342 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    Hah! I caught you justifying taxes! If you like them so much would you mind paying mine? You see, you think they're OK. Democracy isn't getting us anywhere so let's go back to meritocracy where those who deserve it get to survive and help those that they know won't steal or waste their assistance.

    You know, instead of helping thieves, rapists, perverts and murderers to survive and thrive.

    If you eliminate taxes then who pays for the gardai, the fire brigade, water in every tap in the country, public lighting, roads/bridges, sewage, dumps and recycling centres, building of schools/teachers/universities, hospitals/doctors/nurses, army, coast guard, libraries, vaccinations for kids, museums, prison service, public parks, cleaning of beaches, the court system, zoos, irish rail/bus eireann/dublin bus, public pensions, airports, sea ports etc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    Yes, taxes! Those things all developed societies have had for thousands of years! It's a major part of what makes the transition from barbarity to society!

    To pay for those evils called sanitation, healthcare, education, policing, heck even burying the dead! who needs that crap!!1!

    Let the bodies of the poor rot in the street! and if the rich get cholera, then... oh well. Guess libertarianism doesn't really work after all. *shrug*

    You may or may not find the following funny:

    Yes that is funny. I like the way it's written, even if I disagree with the completely anticapitalist stance. I'm not entirely sure whether the writer is pro or against bitcoin. Personally I'm pro, but I don't argue with "non-believers"

    I suppose I'm a minarchist in that I think the State can justify a certain level of existence, but it should compete in the free market along with other providers. People should be free to buy from the State or whoever they want to.

    The only thing that can't be free market is the justice system because the law has to apply to everyone. There is room for private security however, but that's already a normality in certain ways.

    With regard to services- Roads, water etc. These are already mostly privately provided, except they're waaaaaaaaaaay more expensive through the State than they would be through properly privately run contracts. Over half the money that goes into public procurement is stolen or wasted, probably up to 60 or 70%. I've been involved in the construction industry 25 years and I speak to people who aren't afraid to talk. When we are happy to pay taxes we're supporting theft and other crimes. I'd be happy to pay some taxes if I knew it wasn't going to pay for things that are immoral and destructive.

    The State has contracted out most of the water services you might have noticed. I was against the water charges not because I believe in not paying for it (There's no such thing as not paying for stuff.) but because the guv just don't know when to stop their BS. I had to hang around with some people whos political views I utterly despise but I did it for a while.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,342 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    There is a difference between the government contracting out projects and a private company building everything themselves.

    As I said in another thread today private companies exist to create profit and reward shareholders. They would only build roads or water systems in areas they could turn big profit. Vast areas of the country would become third world in nature.

    Free market is pure pie in the sky stuff. A world where corporations have free reign over everything would be a complete disaster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    Which law is this then?


    So don't buy. You're not entitled to buying a house.



    I'd agree with you on most of these, but how is it stopping you from doing ok? Doesn't stop everyone else.

    Princess, nice to hear from you. Always a pleasure.

    1. The Building Control Bill 2007 which was supposed to make buildings safer but in effect just kept the same dodgy building scam going and created monopolies for certain industries while screwing the ordinary person even more than previously. I won't go into too much more detail for professional reasons.

    2. I didn't buy. I'm not into self-enslavement like the poor sods who haven't time to raise their kids because everyone is effectively working their arses off for the banks- with kickbacks for the political class and their cronies. I'd rather be poor than enslaved. I solved the latter problem.

    I agree I'm not entitled to a house. No-one is.

    3. Everyone else is doing OK?... I know it's a shocker but there are some Irish folk living in the street. I hope I haven't upset you now.

    Having said that I'm not whinging. My situation is my own problem, nobody else's. Not even.......... The State.

    QED as you say yourself. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Free market is pure pie in the sky stuff.

    Yes, you know I think Ireland needs to go full socialist to experience how that feels. It'll take 50 - 100 years to snap out of it but at least for a couple more generations after they'll probably resist the temptation to go back.

    What do you propose and are there already examples of it working on planet earth? I'm dying to know.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    Yes that is funny. I like the way it's written, even if I disagree with the completely anticapitalist stance. I'm not entirely sure whether the writer is pro or against bitcoin. Personally I'm pro, but I don't argue with "non-believers"

    I've been involved in the construction industry 25 years and I speak to people who aren't afraid to talk.

    Really, because in another thread you said that your a teacher and teach from primary school up to third level. What primary schools have construction studies as part of their curriculum?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Really, because in another thread you said that your a teacher and teach from primary school up to third level. What primary schools have construction studies as part of their curriculum?

    Wow, we're very concerned about me. Yes I'm involved in the Construction industry and I teach kids and professionals alike. Shock horror. Imagine doing two things at the same time. I know in the Marxist universe that's heavily discouraged. I'm afraid that's all the info you get though. ;)

    Tell me a bit about yourself... I don't want to take over proceedings.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    Wow, we're very concerned about me. Yes I'm involved in the Construction industry and I teach kids and professionals alike. Shock horror. Imagine doing two things at the same time. I know in the Marxist universe that's heavily discouraged. I'm afraid that's all the info you get though. ;)

    Tell me a bit about yourself... I don't want to take over proceedings.

    But if you're a teacher and heavily involved in the construction industry, you must be doing alright. Like, not much to complain about.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    Wow, we're very concerned about me. Yes I'm involved in the Construction industry and I teach kids and professionals alike. Shock horror. Imagine doing two things at the same time. I know in the Marxist universe that's heavily discouraged. I'm afraid that's all the info you get though. ;)

    Tell me a bit about yourself... I don't want to take over proceedings.

    Actually I'd like an answer to my question, what construction related topics are you teaching primary kids?

    As for me building a new sofa for a friend at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    But if you're a teacher and heavily involved in the construction industry, you must be doing alright. Like, not much to complain about.

    I'm kept busy, but we're talking about the construction and education sectors- Corrupted and monopolised. It's taken some time to realise that Ireland just isn't going forwards- not a place for innovation, despite our big tech and pharma industries. A lot more industry needs to be home grown to have a stable long term economy. That will become painfully clear at some point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    I won't be a victim though. It's my responsibility to deal with these issues.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    I'm kept busy, but we're talking about the construction and education sectors- Corrupted and monopolised. It's taken some time to realise that Ireland just isn't going forwards- not a place for innovation, despite our big tech and pharma industries. A lot more industry needs to be home grown to have a stable long term economy. That will become painfully clear at some point.

    Sure. But you're doing fine. Amirite?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Actually I'd like an answer to my question, what construction related topics are you teaching primary kids?

    As for me building a new sofa for a friend at the moment.

    I'm going to keep that to myself I'm afraid. There are some real nutters out there. Met four of them in Kildare Street at the free speech event a few weeks ago. Actual real life Nazis with all the skinhead docks and everything. They proposed to kick the **** out of me and my buddy. We proposed that they could try if they wanted but it wouldn't work out well. They eventually saw things our way.

    So, no I'm not telling you anything else. You never know who's watching. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    Sure. But you're doing fine. Amirite?

    I'm grand. How about yourself?


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    I'm going to keep that to myself I'm afraid. There are some real nutters out there. Met four of them in Kildare Street at the free speech event a few weeks ago. Actual real life Nazis with all the skinhead docks and everything. They proposed to kick the **** out of me and my buddy. We proposed that they could try if they wanted but it wouldn't work out well. They eventually saw things our way.

    So, no I'm not telling you anything else. You never know who's watching. ;)

    So in other words bs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    I'm grand. How about yourself?

    Still riding the horse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    So in other words bs.

    If that's what you want to believe, absolutely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,048 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    Princess, nice to hear from you. Always a pleasure.

    1. The Building Control Bill 2007 which was supposed to make buildings safer but in effect just kept the same dodgy building scam going and created monopolies for certain industries while screwing the ordinary person even more than previously. I won't go into too much more detail for professional reasons.
    Bollox!
    2. I didn't buy. I'm not into self-enslavement like the poor sods who haven't time to raise their kids because everyone is effectively working their arses off for the banks- with kickbacks for the political class and their cronies. I'd rather be poor than enslaved. I solved the latter problem.

    I agree I'm not entitled to a house. No-one is.
    In which case the point you raised is irrelevant.
    3. Everyone else is doing OK?... I know it's a shocker but there are some Irish folk living in the street. I hope I haven't upset you now.
    Most of us seem to manage
    Having said that I'm not whinging.

    Please - don't write that when people have mouthfuls of food! - this entire thread is you whinging!

    There's a saying: those who achieve find ways. Those who don't find excuses. And you are nothign more than a long, long line of excuses.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    I'm going to keep that to myself I'm afraid. There are some real nutters out there. Met four of them in Kildare Street at the free speech event a few weeks ago. Actual real life Nazis with all the skinhead docks and everything. They proposed to kick the **** out of me and my buddy. We proposed that they could try if they wanted but it wouldn't work out well. They eventually saw things our way.

    So, no I'm not telling you anything else. You never know who's watching. ;)

    If you’re actually concerned about your privacy, it’s a bit strange you use your own name and provide enough information to allow anyone to mosey over to your LinkedIn page and Facebook account. Including those notional nazi skinheads, who can google like everyone else.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Paul Lee wrote: »
    If that's what you want to believe, absolutely.

    Yep from your OP to this one. You're contradicting yourself while also showing that you really don't know what your talking about, it's pretty entertaining to be honest.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Paul Lee


    alastair wrote: »
    If you’re actually concerned about your privacy, it’s a bit strange you use your own name and provide enough information to allow anyone to mosey over to your LinkedIn page and Facebook account. Including those notional nazi skinheads, who can google like everyone else.

    yep. well done you.


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