Interesting Maps

Hego Damask

astrofool wrote: »

Billy Connolly said it was Morocco!

https://vimeo.com/24340940

Beat me to it !! -- edit , actually if you naively do the distance on a 2d map it does go to Morocco, didn't take the polar stretch they do for 2d maps into account...

Hego Damask

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

I love comparisons like this, I always thought Sydney was similar to Barcelona in proximity to equator wise ... Sydney is far closer, would be close to mid sahara in the northern hemisphere.

Water John

It really shows up the notion often told to farmers that farming in NZ is similar to here.
Now it has a more temperate climate than Continental Europe, but I was in NZ for the month of April last year, which is comparable with our October. We were wearing sun cream and it was between 18/21C every day.

cnocbui

Ireland is at the same latitude as the southern end of Hudson bay in Canada - about where Polar Bear Provincial Park is. If the Gulf Stream ever shuts down...

Capt'n Midnight

cnocbui wrote: »

If the Gulf Stream ever shuts down...

We will still be on the East side of an Ocean.

IAMAMORON

Water John wrote: »

It really shows up the notion often told to farmers that farming in NZ is similar to here.
Now it has a more temperate climate than Continental Europe, but I was in NZ for the month of April last year, which is comparable with our October. We were wearing sun cream and it was between 18/21C every day.

if it gets too warm they can always head down to Invercargill.

" I wish I was in Innnn Ver Car Gill " , sung to the tune of "Carrickfergus"

Water John

Think there is an air monitoring base station there as there is no other land/pollution at that latitude around the world.

cnocbui

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

We will still be on the East side of an Ocean.

Hair splitting?

The problem lies with the ocean current known as the Gulf Stream, which bathes the UK and north-west Europe in warm water carried northwards from the Caribbean. It is the Gulf Stream, and associated currents, that allow strawberries to thrive along the Norwegian coast, while at comparable latitudes in Greenland glaciers wind their way right down to sea level. The same currents permit palms to flourish in Cornwall and the Hebrides, whereas across the ocean in Labrador, even temperate vegetation struggles to survive. Without the Gulf Stream, temperatures in the UK and north-west Europe would be five degrees centigrade or so cooler, with bitter winters at least as fierce as those of the so-called Little Ice Age in the 17th to 19th centuries.

Lirange

cnocbui wrote: »

If the Gulf Stream ever shuts down...

We’d basically be Iceland sans the volcanoes.

topper75

The engine that drives the gulf stream is the sun beating down on the gulf of Mexico coupled with the earth rotating. If that ever shut down, I would think it was Goodnight Irene anyway.

Water John

The sun is also generating 5 hurricanes in the Atlantic ATM.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php

KevRossi

A map showing the current extent of fires in the US, imposed on Ireland.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/ng-interactive/2019/dec/07/how-big-are-the-fires-burning-on-the-east-coast-of-australia-interactive-map?lat=53.097322593577&lng=-7.451477050781251

topper75

It is the sun indeed - fair play to it. I don't know if there ever was a year without hurricanes forming out there. But I suppose there were never huge amounts of humans living on the coasts they slam into until now. And certainly not the 24-hour news bulletins showing us the menacing satellite shots. That part is all new.

Water John

It's only the second time 5 hurricanes at the same time has been recorded.

OldGoat

topper75 wrote: »

The engine that drives the gulf stream is the sun beating down on the gulf of Mexico coupled with the earth rotating. If that ever shut down, I would think it was Goodnight Irene anyway.

Ocean currents are also driven by a thermohaline (temp and salinity) process. It's one of the big worries with global warming that the release of fresh water at the polar ice caps will dilute the sea water, reducing it's saltiness in the northern regions and thus causing the gulf stream to invert it's direction.
Cheery thought.

topper75

Followed by immediate self-correction though, right? As in the absence of the warming current leading to colder northern seas and reversal of any winter ice-melting process?

Capt'n Midnight

topper75 wrote: »

Followed by immediate self-correction though, right? As in the absence of the warming current leading to colder northern seas and reversal of any winter ice-melting process?

More fresh water means Arctic freezes over. Diverting water south was a Soviet era plan to green the deserts and fill the inland seas and make the Arctic saltier and so easier to navigate.




https://i.redd.it/kgsms95z89451.png

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/302888269_The_Siberian_Water_Transfer_Scheme

endacl

Water John wrote: »

It's only the second time 5 hurricanes at the same time has been recorded.

:eek::eek::eek:The neutrinos have mutated!!!! :eek::eek::eek:

cnocbui

topper75 wrote: »

Followed by immediate self-correction though, right? As in the absence of the warming current leading to colder northern seas and reversal of any winter ice-melting process?

Well yes, if you can call a plunge of 8° C lasting over a hundred years a 'correction', which is what happened 8,000 years ago: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13013-ancient-flood-brought-gulf-stream-to-a-halt/#

Modern ice ages are accompanied by a shut down in the Gulf Stream/Atlantic conveyor/THC. That circulation system has been slowing and is currently 15% weaker than it was in the middle of the last century.

topper75

cnocbui wrote: »

Well yes, if you can call a plunge of 8° C lasting over a hundred years a 'correction', which is what happened 8,000 years ago: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13013-ancient-flood-brought-gulf-stream-to-a-halt/#

Modern ice ages are accompanied by a shut down in the Gulf Stream/Atlantic conveyor/THC. That circulation system has been slowing and is currently 15% weaker than it was in the middle of the last century.

But wouldn't such a plunge be mitigated by global warming today with all the CO2 being released by man?
I mean water won't suddenly lose the ability to be heated by warmer air. You put water in a greenhouse, it gets warm fast.

Every way you look at it - it self-corrects.

Padraig Mor

Came across this yesterday - hopefully not posted previously. Major Roman roads in a Tube style map.



Larger original:
https://sashamaps.net/images/roman_roads_original.png?fbclid=IwAR3HhK74e6hRPCcq2AtXEOtIkDu975OaStw2THHkNDd1i765SE8aMgj5LsQ

iamstop

cnocbui wrote: »

Ireland is at the same latitude as the southern end of Hudson bay in Canada - about where Polar Bear Provincial Park is. If the Gulf Stream ever shuts down...

I live in Winnipeg right now. We're 49.80 degrees north. Dublin is 53.34. Here in Winnipeg -40C in winter is not uncommon. Add wind chill to that and it's easily below -50.

Layers are your only friend in those temps.

nc6000

I like that Roman map, interesting that they never came to Ireland.

ohnonotgmail

nc6000 wrote: »

I like that Roman map, interesting that they never came to Ireland.

they realised that the people were getting more scary the further west they went so decided to stop at Wales.

cnocbui

nc6000 wrote: »

I like that Roman map, interesting that they never came to Ireland.

They were probably told the weather is like that place north of Hadrian's wall, but the inhabitant's aren't as chilled, and so they said quod irrumabo!

Capt'n Midnight

nc6000 wrote: »

I like that Roman map, interesting that they never came to Ireland.

Maybe they did up near Rush

Hibernia, the Land of Winter.

chooseusername

nc6000 wrote: »

I like that Roman map, interesting that they never came to Ireland.

Veni, vidi, non vis

KevRossi

Some maps about China

1. The westernmost point of China is nearer to Germany than it is to the easternmost point of China. That's how big the place is.




2. Not all Chinese live in the same place... this map shows the population distribution of the country.




3. Many of them live in the Pearl River Delta MegaCity, about 135,000,000. For reference the distance from Zhaoqing on the left, to Hong Kong on the right is about the same as Galway to Dublin.



4. They don't all understand each other, a map of languages of China, many of these are incomprehensible to each other.



5. This map shows the recommended route from China to New York or Rotterdam by sea. Avoids piracy, PITA customs and coast guards and lengthy queues and charges at the Suez and Panama canals. Due to climate change this route is navigable more months of the year than ever before.

silverharp

its oversized so didnt imbed, not sure who its measured but interesting, some kind of measure of status or popularity of degrees in each country in europe

https://i.redd.it/qq0icdj93ozz.png

ohnonotgmail

silverharp wrote: »

its oversized so didnt imbed, not sure who its measured but interesting, some kind of measure of status or popularity of degrees in each country in europe

https://i.redd.it/qq0icdj93ozz.png

is it not showing the degree that each countries leader has? Or had as it shows medicine for Varadkar