"FAI blew €69,000 on John Delaney's 50th birthday party"

Kermit.de.frog

Bloody hell, in the Sunday Times tomorrow.

50k was paid back by Delaney afterward. The remaining 19k went down as a "football related expense".

How the hell does anyone spend 69k on a party!?

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MeMen2_MoRi_

Coke and hookers?

randomspud

The government shouldn't be putting a single cent toward any sport in this country.


Tax payers money is being pissed away on grown adults playing games.

If whatever the game is isn't commercially viable then it should die off.

Quantum Erasure

€69,000?

nice...

Borgo

Im suprised it was only €69,000 thats only a bit of Shrapnel to them sure..

whodafunk

And the annoying thing is Delaney is still walking the streets scott free. Absolute disgrace. He should be docked some of that big payoff/pension given.

When will Ireland ever learn?

Guy:Incognito

randomspud wrote: »

The government shouldn't be putting a single cent toward any sport in this country.


Tax payers money is being pissed away on grown adults playing games.

If whatever the game is isn't commercially viable then it should die off.

Should that not apply to everything that isnt 100% necessary so?

randomspud

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Should that not apply to everything that isnt 100% necessary so?

Yes.


We can start doling money out to trivialities once we have the basic stuff sorted out.

kowloon

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Should that not apply to everything that isnt 100% necessary so?

The government haemorrhages money on all sorts of frivolous spending but plenty of people seem to get more pissed off about it being spent on healthcare and housing for people who need it.

That said, I'm a total hypocrite because I could happily see the GAA lose funding but would hate to see the National Museum lose it. Ultimately, both cases are down to personal interest/hobby.

Charles Babbage

randomspud wrote: »

The government shouldn't be putting a single cent toward any sport in this country.


Tax payers money is being pissed away on grown adults playing games.

If whatever the game is isn't commercially viable then it should die off.

You could make the opposite argument that only popular sports should be funded as they are the ones the taxpayers, who provide the funding, are interested in.

However, whatever case can be made in general, some of FAI expenditure is not justified either way.

On an aside, I doubt if I have managed to spend €69,000 on all my birthdays put together.

okidoki987

If the fans started to walk away and the FAI were left with half empty stadiums with no income stream, someone might do something about it.
If we don't qualify for the Euro's, it's going to be a bleak summer over here.

1o059k7ewrqj3n

randomspud wrote: »

The government shouldn't be putting a single cent toward any sport in this country.


Tax payers money is being pissed away on grown adults playing games.

If whatever the game is isn't commercially viable then it should die off.

There is a vast age range participating in sports in this country, from young kids to grown adults.

Richard Hillman

whodafunk wrote: »

And the annoying thing is Delaney is still walking the streets scott free. Absolute disgrace. He should be docked some of that big payoff/pension given.

When will Ireland ever learn?

Well the KOSI report into the FAI was sent straight to the Gardaí, so there is trouble ahead. Even Shane Ross was bypassed, it went straight to the Garda.

joeysoap

€110,000 for winning the LOI after 36 matches,

And €55,000 for coming 2nd.

€69,0000 for a birthday party, no doubt with lots if not all FAI attending.

Unreal. I hope Ross sticks to his word.

kowloon

sugarman wrote: »

Is it?

Last I checked it goes into grassroots for all sports, providing and helping the upkeep of facilities, paying/supplying of equipment etc..

How the **** would the likes of the local u9s Soccer, GAA, Rugby, Hockey clubs etc... be commercially viable? :pac:

You could argue that people could pay for their own hobbies, and those of their their kids, but by the same logic we should cut all welfare and rely on philantropy. In practice, it's much easier to fund through tax than expect people to overcome their aversion to handing over cash on their own initiative.

Optimalprimerib

randomspud wrote: »

The government shouldn't be putting a single cent toward any sport in this country.


Tax payers money is being pissed away on grown adults playing games.

If whatever the game is isn't commercially viable then it should die off.

Removing funding for sports and recreational activities will close down all of the sports clubs around the country for all ages. Kids will have nothing to do, so crime will increase and the population will become obese and the strain on healthcare will increase also.

It also means that there would be less days out for sporting events, meaning that the revenue gained by businesses in the town's where the event takes place will also drop closing pubs and restaurants, putting more on the unemployment line.

The pride in the nation would drop and the morale of the people would drop, increasing mental health issues, putting more pressure on the healthcare budget.

So as trivial as it may seem for the government to fund sport and recreation it actually is extremely important.

uck51js9zml2yt

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

Coke and hookers?

Is he also a Boards moderator?

lawrencesummers

randomspud wrote: »

The government shouldn't be putting a single cent toward any sport in this country.


Tax payers money is being pissed away on grown adults playing games.

If whatever the game is isn't commercially viable then it should die off.

Be a long time before I read a stupider argument.

Sport isn’t just about commercial viability, it’s about participation, growing numbers, getting kids involved so that they have healthier lives. It’s not about full stadia and shiny medals, it’s a lot simpler that that.

Take rowing, or boxing, two sports we have as a country done exceptionally well in, neither of which are “commercially viable” but deserves funding and development, and have been successful despite the lack of funding.

Don’t punish the participants for the crimes of administrators.

lawrencesummers

okidoki987 wrote: »

If the fans started to walk away and the FAI were left with half empty stadiums with no income stream, someone might do something about it.
If we don't qualify for the Euro's, it's going to be a bleak summer over here.

Yea.
Because qualifying and getting hammered out the gate onto the first flight home is going to be so much better.

Irishphotodesk

Optimalprimerib wrote: »

Removing funding for sports and recreational activities will close down all of the sports clubs around the country for all ages. Kids will have nothing to do, so crime will increase and the population will become obese and the strain on healthcare will increase also.

It also means that there would be less days out for sporting events, meaning that the revenue gained by businesses in the town's where the event takes place will also drop closing pubs and restaurants, putting more on the unemployment line.

The pride in the nation would drop and the morale of the people would drop, increasing mental health issues, putting more pressure on the healthcare budget.

So as trivial as it may seem for the government to fund sport and recreation it actually is extremely important.

You are making massive assumptions, claiming without sports clubs crime will increase and kids will become obese, there are many kids not involved in sports clubs who are neither criminals nor obese, it's a bit far fetched to make your claim that because kids "have nothing to do so crime will increase and the population will become obese"

If you had said there could be an increase in obesity and crime, fair enough ... But to claim that it will cause increases in obesity and crime is just wrong in my opinion.... You are entitled to your opinion, and I could be wrong in my opinion but I feel you have a poor opinion of kids if you believe that without organised sports activities.... They will all become fat and criminals.

Kidchameleon

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Yea.
Because qualifying and getting hammered out the gate onto the first flight home is going to be so much better.

Eh, we would already be at home, no need for a flight

malinheader

Can't understand why people are so surprised about this money for the party, everybody knows Delaney was a crook and only in the job because of a family hand me down. I would say there was alot more crooks feeding from Delaney in the organisation so alot more scandal to be uncovered.

lawrencesummers

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Eh, we would already be at home, no need for a flight

Won’t all the players have to fly home?

Kidchameleon

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Won’t all the players have to fly home?

LOL very true!

Blind Eagle

A girl I used to work with worked for the FAI, relatively high up. At one of the nights out she was drinking from a Heineken bottle. Delaney who was also at the table asked "if she was going to show us her oral skills". She quit soon after.

He must be one of the most disliked Irish people of recent time.

whodafunk

Have we not forgotten about the Olympic scandal?!!!...

AllGunsBlazing

69 grand on tayto and fanta?? That's mad carry on!
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TheValeyard

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

69 grand on tayto and fanta?? That's mad carry on!
.

It's John Delaney, was probably King's Crisps....

Liberta Per Gli Ultra

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

But to claim that it will cause increases in obesity and crime is just wrong in my opinion.... You are entitled to your opinion, and I could be wrong in my opinion but I feel you have a poor opinion of kids if you believe that without organised sports activities.... They will all become fat and criminals.

He/she didn't say that, and the physical and psychological benefits of being involved in a sports club are well established, especially at a time when more and more people are living with their heads buried in their phones for much of the day.

Optimalprimerib

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

You are making massive assumptions, claiming without sports clubs crime will increase and kids will become obese, there are many kids not involved in sports clubs who are neither criminals nor obese, it's a bit far fetched to make your claim that because kids "have nothing to do so crime will increase and the population will become obese"

If you had said there could be an increase in obesity and crime, fair enough ... But to claim that it will cause increases in obesity and crime is just wrong in my opinion.... You are entitled to your opinion, and I could be wrong in my opinion but I feel you have a poor opinion of kids if you believe that without organised sports activities.... They will all become fat and criminals.

I gave two examples without even scratching the surface of the benefits. What about the skills and values people learn from being involved in clubs (not only sports).

Even beyond fitness, and the sport/activity itself. Teamwork, dealing with pressure, how to handle the highs and lows of life, leadership skills, friendships, community, pride of place.

All of these values makes you more employable, which firstly means your be paying taxes to the government, secondly you are one less on social welfare. Thirdly, the money you earn will be spent, increasing business, increasing revenue and increasing jobs.

So it pays for these clubs to be funded by the government in the long run.

Shefwedfan

okidoki987 wrote: »

If the fans started to walk away and the FAI were left with half empty stadiums with no income stream, someone might do something about it.
If we don't qualify for the Euro's, it's going to be a bleak summer over here.

Has that my already started to happen?

Unless it’s a big match the place is empty, even a big match you can walk up and get a ticket on way in

joeysoap

Liberta Per Gli Ultra wrote: »

.......... especially at a time when more and more people are living with their heads buried in their phones for much of the day.

Pretty sure I saw Conway at the Dundalk/ Rovers match in Oriel. If it was him he spent the 2nd half looking at his phone, not at the match. I was a few rows behind him and the other FAI guys.

WoollyRedHat

joeysoap wrote: »

Pretty sure I saw Conway at the Dundalk/ Rovers match in Oriel. If it was him he spent the 2nd half looking at his phone, not at the match. I was a few rows behind him and the other FAI guys.

Conway should have had the decency to resign yesterday, him and his ilk facilitate corruption. The board of the FAI signed off on a salary package with financial liabilities of over €2 million euro for Delaney which extended to 2021. Delaney was given a severance package of 462K with an agreement that if he accepted this, he would forfeit the package. The board signed off on the package when JD was at the helm but are now pleading the 5th about the details. Where is the accountability? Inept doesn't even begin to describe the situation.

cannotlogin

John Delaney did nothing on his own - he couldn't have.

Whether it's through negligence, stupidity , collusion etc. that the board allowed it to happen, every single one of them should be sent packing and start over. All long as the same crew are about, it's only moving deckchairs on the titanic. Absolutely starve the organisation of cash until they are all gone.

fishfoodie

cannotlogin wrote: »

John Delaney did nothing on his own - he couldn't have.

Whether it's through negligence, stupidity , collusion etc. that the board allowed it to happen, every single one of them should be sent packing and start over. All long as the same crew are about, it's only moving deckchairs on the titanic. Absolutely starve the organisation of cash until they are all gone.

Has anyone asked the knuckle-dragging morons, what they think of Delaneys, marvelous administration of the FAI ? :rolleyes:

Minime2.5

randomspud wrote: »

The government shouldn't be putting a single cent toward any sport in this country.


Tax payers money is being pissed away on grown adults playing games.

If whatever the game is isn't commercially viable then it should die off.

The government the gardai the FAI .Take your pick Corruption has been rife in all 3 organisations for as long theyve existed. They are all in bed together so I wouldn't expect the Irish government to do a ****in thing

The Rape of Lucretia

Minime2.5 wrote: »

The government the gardai the FAI .Take your pick Corruption has been rife in all 3 organisations for as long theyve existed. They are all in bed together so I wouldn't expect the Irish government to do a ****in thing

Organisations arent corrupt, people are. The govt, the FAI, and the Gardai are a very representative cross section of the Irish - indicating the Irish people are corrupt. They even elect the government directly, so from what you say, endorse corruption. Quite consistent really.

Anyway, “John Delaney could run anything. John Delaney could run UEFA easily. He could run FIFA as far as I’m concerned — certainly better than Sepp Blatter, and more honestly. He could run a birthday party very well indeed.”

pure.conya

whodafunk wrote: »

And the annoying thing is Delaney is still walking the streets scott free. Absolute disgrace. He should be docked some of that big payoff/pension given.

When will Ireland ever learn?

sure the majority of people here are total sheep, why wouldn't we all be getting riden left right and centre lol

Shefwedfan

pure.conya wrote: »

sure the majority of people here are total sheep, why wouldn't we all be getting riden left right and centre lol

Oh the Irish do love to get risen every which way

Just look at the Healy-Rae clan, biggest shower of gangsters in Ireland, the whole family on payroll and robbing the government blind with expenses

But ask the local gobs**t and they are great....they fixed the road....doesn’t matter they probably paid10-20 times in taxes to fix the road but Healy Rae fixes the roads

You would think one generation would learn but the same follow along...it’s FAI this week, it will be Garda the next week, then the government etc etc....all caught robbing money and nothing ever done

What happened the old Olympic council?

liosnagceann75

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Oh the Irish do love to get risen every which way

Just look at the Healy-Rae clan, biggest shower of gangsters in Ireland, the whole family on payroll and robbing the government blind with expenses

But ask the local gobs**t and they are great....they fixed the road....doesn’t matter they probably paid10-20 times in taxes to fix the road but Healy Rae fixes the roads

You would think one generation would learn but the same follow along...it’s FAI this week, it will be Garda the next week, then the government etc etc....all caught robbing money and nothing ever done

What happened the old Olympic council?

Michael Healy Rae should hang his head with shame after his character reference for Delaney. But it's going to water off a ducks back for Healy Rae

Shefwedfan

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

Michael Healy Rae should hang his head with shame after his character reference for Delaney. But it's going to water off a ducks back for Healy Rae

You not see his two scumbag sons on the news recently?



Locals are now trying to drive out the relatives of the person they beat up.....like FFS what is wrong with people?

liosnagceann75

Shefwedfan wrote: »

You not see his two scumbag sons on the news recently?



Locals are now trying to drive out the relatives of the person they beat up.....like FFS what is wrong with people?

I'm in healy Raes constituency and detest the entire shower of them. Their only interested in lining their own pockets. Funny Delaney is the same. The Healy Raes don't bother calling to my house because their well aware of the reception they'll get which will be a size 10 up their holes

Shefwedfan

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

I'm in healy Raes constituency and detest the entire shower of them. Their only interested in lining their own pockets. Funny Delaney is the same. The Healy Raes don't bother calling to my house because their well aware of the reception they'll get which will be a size 10 up their holes

I would expect you are the one of the few


Do people really not understand how much they are screwing them? I heard recently some lad raving because they fixed the road,.....it was council money used to do it and the company that fixed the road was owned by Healy Rae....like FFS how corrupt is that?

liosnagceann75

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I would expect you are the one of the few


Do people really not understand how much they are screwing them? I heard recently some lad raving because they fixed the road,.....it was council money used to do it and the company that fixed the road was owned by Healy Rae....like FFS how corrupt is that?

The Healy Raes have an army of disciples at local level who support them. I'm ashamed at their carry on. You could write an entire book on their shenanigans.

theoneeyedman

Optimalprimerib wrote: »

I gave two examples without even scratching the surface of the benefits. What about the skills and values people learn from being involved in clubs (not only sports).

Even beyond fitness, and the sport/activity itself. Teamwork, dealing with pressure, how to handle the highs and lows of life, leadership skills, friendships, community, pride of place.

All of these values makes you more employable, which firstly means your be paying taxes to the government, secondly you are one less on social welfare. Thirdly, the money you earn will be spent, increasing business, increasing revenue and increasing jobs.

So it pays for these clubs to be funded by the government in the long run.

You're assuming that there are no other organisations capable of promoting fitness, teamwork, leadership etc.
Many good organisations, sporting and otherwise,doing this work. Back these organisations properly, and fvxk the FAI/soccer. The FAI and it's board are a (de facto)
subsidiary of UEFA and FIFA. They should have to cover the liabilities of FAI, and account for any wrongdoing IMHO. JD was UEFA's man here, they should cover the losses and make them good, not the Irish taxpayer. If they don't like it, pull every grant and don't let them operate here (including the UEFA finals next summer) until they do.

Shefwedfan

When is someone going to pull out the TV show Delaney done a few years ago??? the one they always play quotes of it on Seconds Captain

joeysoap

Optimalprimerib wrote: »

Removing funding for sports and recreational activities will close down all of the sports clubs around the country for all ages. Kids will have nothing to do, so crime will increase and the population will become obese and the strain on healthcare will increase also.

It also means that there would be less days out for sporting events, meaning that the revenue gained by businesses in the town's where the event takes place will also drop closing pubs and restaurants, putting more on the unemployment line.

The pride in the nation would drop and the morale of the people would drop, increasing mental health issues, putting more pressure on the healthcare budget.

So as trivial as it may seem for the government to fund sport and recreation it actually is extremely important.

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

The Healy Raes have an army of disciples at local level who support them. I'm ashamed at their carry on. You could write an entire book on their shenanigans.

I think HR has written two books.

liosnagceann75

joeysoap wrote: »

I think HR has written two books.

There's a third book there

lawred2

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Bloody hell, in the Sunday Times tomorrow.

50k was paid back by Delaney afterward. The remaining 19k went down as a "football related expense".

How the hell does anyone spend 69k on a party!?

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Why is an organization spending money on birthdays in the first place?

_Kaiser_

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Organisations arent corrupt, people are. The govt, the FAI, and the Gardai are a very representative cross section of the Irish - indicating the Irish people are corrupt. They even elect the government directly, so from what you say, endorse corruption. Quite consistent really.

It's very rare that I agree with this poster but this is absolutely spot on.

As a nation we admire (and vote for!) the "cute hoor", try to find ways around the lax rules and laws that we have, and commiserate on those rare occasions when someone gets caught ("shure have they nothing else to be doing?")

We went from keeping up with the Joneses in the Tiger years, to curtain twitching about what they might be "getting away with" (that we weren't!) in the recession.
This attitude incidentally is also what perpetuates the current system, as it's very easy to play one section of society against another to keep the rest distracted from the REAL problems.

The sad truth is that this endemic corruption, waste and greed across our political, legal and other bodies is tolerated and even supported by many is because those same people quietly admit that they'd do exactly the same things if they had the neck/opportunity.

As a country and people we're still very selfish and immature, and stories like this and the never-ending scandals from government and elsewhere are the result of that.

jmayo

whodafunk wrote: »

And the annoying thing is Delaney is still walking the streets scott free. Absolute disgrace. He should be docked some of that big payoff/pension given.

When will Ireland ever learn?

The thing is it is just not Delaney, but all the hangers on.
It reminds me of the likes of Mugabe.
The figurehead guys at the top were kept in power because it wasn't just them creaming if off.
And someday some of the enablers hoped to benefit or someday get to the top of the greasy pole.

And the laugh even though the head guy has eventually been sacrificed, a lot of their supporters are still around.

randomspud wrote: »

The government shouldn't be putting a single cent toward any sport in this country.


Tax payers money is being pissed away on grown adults playing games.

If whatever the game is isn't commercially viable then it should die off.

Some people chose not to display to the world how limited their thinking is, but you on the other hand ...

Sports clubs have adult teams or adult participants, but those clubs always have kids playing and training.

Have you ever been involved in underage sport, you know the type of things where kids train in skills development, learn life skills such as working as part of a team, learn how to interact with others, learn life lessons such as facing failure and success, learn how perseverance and hard work can be rewarding ?
Oh and getting excercise probably improving their long term health.

Would you rather they just either sit at home playing video games or hang around thinking of something to do to relieve the boredom?

You will be the very one on complaining about lazy kids hanging around and being antisocial or fat kids heading towards a lifetime of bad health and a cost to the health service.