Selling house because of Youth problem

pablo128

threeball wrote: »

Should have fcuked him through their window. See how they like sh1t being thrown at their house.

I never had a problem off that particular lad again because they were told whatever happened to my home, would happen to their home.

Paddy Cow

threeball wrote: »

That might work for big developers with multiple estates but smaller guys have to sell one before moving to the next so loads of small housing estates end up with a couple of knacker families who don't belong. Its like having a boarding kennel that mainly caters for poodles and chihuahuas but then someone randomly drops off a rottweiler and expects all to be good.

That's the best description of it I've ever heard :pac:

Hector Savage

Hector Savage wrote: »

Christ so this could literally happen in any neighbourhood in dublin ?
Even if all the houses are privately owned and have heavty mortgages attached ?

I am very privileged, thanks mainly to inheritance, to be living in a very “desirable” estate which won a top accolade for its planning, design etc. I don’t mean to be snobbish but it is plainly not the kind of place you could imagine typical council estate residents living in, however some of the accommodation is council owned. The only difference you see is if you look through the big windows you see tons of children’s stuff piled up.

Thankfully the estate is very well managed (I pay a small fortune in fees) and putting washing on balconies etc is not tolerated, and any breaches acted upon by the caretaker who knows everybody living here. There have been a small number of cat break-ins intone underground car parks, but a modern sporadically monitored security system has been installed. At night time cctv cameras are triggered by movement which alerts the monitoring centre. The security staff then can zoom in and check to see if there is suspicious activity and if so they can communicate through a loudspeaker to warn the intruder and alert the guards. The voice alert draws the intruder to look directly at the camera where the voice is coming from, so a good high definition image is captured. This modern security remote monitoring is greatly reducing problems. Any scrotes who might be living on the estate would know about this system. There are tons of cameras facing all directions, so no evading detection. Their voices are also recorded. This kind of system will become more and more the norm in modern estates and will reduce some of the antisocial problems.

Mad_maxx

threeball wrote: »

It's government policy to turn the whole of Dublin into knackerland. This 20% social housing rule inserts scumbags where they would never be before. They act the bollox there where no one will confront them. Their kids intimidate or recruit local kids that normally wouldn't have gotten involved and now this new estate you moved into with aspirations and dreams is just a nightmare dragging you to the bottom.

Happening in other towns and cities up and down the country too but Dublin is particularly bad. That city has fallen off a cliff in the last 10yrs.

Eoin o Broin ( sinn fein) has been particularly enthusiastic about increasing the percentage of mandatory social housing in new estates

This is the primary reason I would prefer to buy a fixer upper in a mature established area, less likely to fall prey to social engineering policies

AulWan

Mad_maxx wrote: »

This is the primary reason I would prefer to buy a fixer upper in a mature established area, less likely to fall prey to social engineering policies

There is no safeguard.

The area I live in fits your description. A mature established area (built 35 years ago) but almost every house that has gone up for sale in the last 3 years were all purchased by South Dublin County Council.

5 that I know of.

Framed10

Is there a way to find out if there are houses in an estate that have been bought by the council?
Or is it a case of doing your own asking around?
I'm currently considering buying a house in a mature estate in Cork at the moment.
Thanks

threeball

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Eoin o Broin ( sinn fein) has been particularly enthusiastic about increasing the percentage of mandatory social housing in new estates

This is the primary reason I would prefer to buy a fixer upper in a mature established area, less likely to fall prey to social engineering policies

Not surprised to hear Sinn Fein pandering to their electorate. If it weren't for the welfare class they'd have a smaller vote than PBP.

Mad_maxx

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Again, its best to ignore complex social issues, as the market will solve it!

lumpenproletariat

Mad_maxx

Wanderer78 wrote: »

In what way did the market solve complex social issues, and which left leaning governments would that have been?

left wing activists created the culture of delinquency we see everywhere today , they told a particular section of society ( including travellers ) that the state was responsible for everything in their lives that was wrong but also that it was up to the state to wait on them hand and foot , the same activists tell the middle ireland tax payer to sit down and keep milking whenever we dare to raise our hand about said delinquency

all irelands problems stem from a smothering culture of left wing orthodoxy , from the media dictatorship which brands everyone a racist to the gargantuan quangocracy which pressurises politicians to bring in ghastly 20% social housing rules in private estates

holliehobbie

Hector Savage wrote: »

Christ so this could literally happen in any neighbourhood in dublin ?
Even if all the houses are privately owned and have heavty mortgages attached ?

It's more likely to be Housing Bodies like Cluid buying the houses than Dublin City Council.

Mad_maxx

Deleted User wrote: »

Which "left wing" government would this be??

all of them since the foundation of the state , you dont have to be cuba 1960 to circa 2012 to be left wing , we have never had anything remotely right wing in terms of goverment policy

AulWan

holliehobbie wrote: »

It's more likely to be Housing Bodies like Cluid buying the houses than Dublin City Council.

All houses on my road were purchased by South Dublin County Council, which is my local authority area. Definitely not housing associations. I can't speak for any other area.

Framed10 wrote: »

Is there a way to find out if there are houses in an estate that have been bought by the council?
Or is it a case of doing your own asking around?
I'm currently considering buying a house in a mature estate in Cork at the moment.
Thanks

Landdirect.ie is supposed to map out what houses are private or council owned, but I don't know how accurate or how often its updated.

Mad_maxx

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

My friend bought his first home in City West back in 2001. It was the height of the Celtic Tiger and people were property crazy.

He lived there a few years with his young family. His neighbours were of a similar background and demographic.

When the crash came, he wanted to move his family to a larger and quieter place, so he relocated to a rural village. He signed a ten-year deal with South Dublin County Council to rent the house out for social housing. Guaranteed rent.

Every once in a while, an appliance breaks in the rented house. When he visits, he is always shocked at the deterioration if the place. Mildew, grubby, above average wear and tear, appliances that just 'broke' without a good explanation. The tenant was almost zero respect for the property.

Looking around the estate, he says it has slumped dramatically. Reckons it will be a problem area within 10 years. He has no interest in living in City West again. But he'd probably have to take a haircut on the selling price!

the councils use those long term lease agreements to house the most feral of scum who are unhousable

i bought a cheap as chips house in limerick city two years ago for 72 k , i entered into a long term lease with limerick council in mid 2018 , i have not had to do anything and receive 850 per month , i requested a house inspection six months ago which was nine months after the council took possession of the property , witnessed the following

carpet ripped off stairs
security alarm ripped off the wall
most of the furniture missing
hand rail pulled out of the wall on the stairs with a sizeable chunk of concrete missing
back yard strewn with rubbish and dog ****
the most godawful garish wallpaper on several rooms
a shrine to the dead boyfriend of the tenant in the kitchen
kitchen appliances covered in filth
carpets in the bedroom unrecognisable due to the thickness of dirt on them

to top it off , the councils farm out management of the properties to homeless industry outfits , lady who showed me around the place told me with delight that the lady ( tenant wasnt there ) who lives there spends much of her time blogging online about decorating houses ( according to the neighbours she spends most nights hosting raves )

Bobblehats

pablo128 wrote: »

I never had a problem off that particular lad again because they were told whatever happened to my home, would happen to their home.

Have you tried speaking their language? I tried; and failed. Badly the best thing you can do is to make sure it’s something everybody understands. The universal language that is GET OFF MY LAWN

Mad_maxx

Deleted User wrote: »

Because that's how Ballymun/Tallaght of the 90's became so infamous in the first place. Ask anyone in D5 what their impression is of Casino park / Cherrymount and they'll all tell you the same. It was a no-go area up until very recently, even for the hardchaws in Donnycarney. It's taken the guts of 25 years for the toerags to grow up and get a corpo gaff elsewhere with thier own kids for that to have changed.

you dont bring scum to heel by placing them amongst decent tax payers , you focus on policing , crime involves dealing with crime and that means proper policing

liberals are wrong about everything all of the time yet are so arrogant , demand to continue to write policy

mondeo

Tomorrow is Friday and we are dreading it..... We are thinking of staying in a hotel somewhere for the night and then staying at her parents on Saturday night, just to get the fck away from the madness, taking both our cars with us to. If the house gets a broken window or egged or worse, so be it. We can't protect it anymore anyways. We had the estate agents down this afternoon and we are happy with what they told us. We were honest and told them why we want to sell it. They didn't care really and why would they ? The house is going for the market value of every other house in the estate. We need as much as we can for it anyways for our new house.

holliehobbie

Hector Savage wrote: »

Christ so this could literally happen in any neighbourhood in dublin ?
Even if all the houses are privately owned and have heavty mortgages attached ?

It's more likely to be Housing Bodies like Cluid buying the houses than Dublin City Council.

listermint

Mad_maxx wrote: »

the councils use those long term lease agreements to house the most feral of scum who are unhousable

i bought a cheap as chips house in limerick city two years ago for 72 k , i entered into a long term lease with limerick council in mid 2018 , i have not had to do anything and receive 850 per month , i requested a house inspection six months ago which was nine months after the council took possession of the property , witnessed the following

carpet ripped off stairs
security alarm ripped off the wall
most of the furniture missing
hand rail pulled out of the wall on the stairs with a sizeable chunk of concrete missing
back yard strewn with rubbish and dog ****
the most godawful garish wallpaper on several rooms
a shrine to the dead boyfriend of the tenant in the kitchen
kitchen appliances covered in filth
carpets in the bedroom unrecognisable due to the thickness of dirt on them

to top it off , the councils farm out management of the properties to homeless industry outfits , lady who showed me around the place told me with delight that the lady ( tenant wasnt there ) who lives there spends much of her time blogging online about decorating houses ( according to the neighbours she spends most nights hosting raves )

Sounds like a handy investment which you knew full well what you were getting in to.

Did you think you'd get it for 72k otherwise....

holliehobbie

AulWan wrote: »

All houses on my road were purchased by South Dublin County Council, which is my local authority area. Definitely not housing associations. I can't speak for any other area.



Landdirect.ie is supposed to map out what houses are private or council owned, but I don't know how accurate or how often its updated.

Are you sure about that? I recently got ahold of the folio for my own house after paying €40! I know you can see if properties are freehold or leasehold but I don't think you can see the owners unless you pay a fee?

Mad_maxx

listermint wrote: »

Sounds like a handy investment which you knew full well what you were getting in to.

Did you think you'd get it for 72k otherwise....

Never mind my rationale, i didn't say i regretted my punt which yields 12%,I'll sue the council in ten years if the house doesn't come back the way I got it.

the council are the common theme here and the kind of policies they pursue, you could buy a 500 k house in drumcondra, let it to the council long term and they would still stick a scum bucket and her brood in it

Troublemakers are given priority, the council then don't have to listen to some bleeding heart from whatever charity about how Stacey and her seven dwarfs are living in a B+B

AulWan

holliehobbie wrote: »

Are you sure about that? I recently got ahold of the folio for my own house after paying €40! I know you can see if properties are freehold or leasehold but I don't think you can see the owners unless you pay a fee?

About South Dublin County Council? 100% sure.

About landdirect.ie? I read about it on a thread here on Boards, (maybe on Accommodation and Property), but no, not 100% sure.

Deebles McBeebles

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Stacey and her seven dwarfs are living in a B+B

:D:D


On landdirect, its not a free service so I would imagine a fee would be involved.

ThunbergsAreGo

mondeo wrote: »

Tomorrow is Friday and we are dreading it..... We are thinking of staying in a hotel somewhere for the night and then staying at her parents on Saturday night, just to get the fck away from the madness, taking both our cars with us to. If the house gets a broken window or egged or worse, so be it. We can't protect it anymore anyways. We had the estate agents down this afternoon and we are happy with what they told us. We were honest and told them why we want to sell it. They didn't care really and why would they ? The house is going for the market value of every other house in the estate. We need as much as we can for it anyways for our new house.

Awful situation you are in, and a legitmate nightmare for many of us.

I only hope you get it resolved soon, as many have said already life is too short for having to put up with this sh1t

Hotblack Desiato

mondeo wrote: »

Tomorrow is Friday and we are dreading it...

Stick your speakers out the upstairs window and play Barry Manilow as loud as you can.

Mad_maxx

Mad_maxx wrote: »

you dont bring scum to heel by placing them amongst decent tax payers , you focus on policing , crime involves dealing with crime and that means proper policing

liberals are wrong about everything all of the time yet are so arrogant , demand to continue to write policy

So anyone in receipt of social housing = scum?

MetzgerMeister

Deleted User wrote: »

So anyone in receipt of social housing = scum?

I would hope that's not what was meant because it certainly isn't true.

Kamili

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So anyone in receipt of social housing = scum?

I literally cannot see anywhere in the post you quoted that says everyone in receipt of social housing us scum.

Deebles McBeebles

Kamili wrote: »

I literally cannot see anywhere in the post you quoted that says everyone in receipt of social housing us scum.

Nor in the thread as a whole. Its an argument frequently used by apologists for the life-long dolers.

To be absolutely clear, the life-long dolers who could but don't bother working because the state has made sure they rarely want for anything. If we all did that, the place would be third world.

topper75

listermint wrote: »

Sounds like a handy investment which you knew full well what you were getting in to.

Did you think you'd get it for 72k otherwise....

Yeah in gross terms - pays for itself in 7 years.
Maybe 14 years after tax.

Not many investment products around like that these days.

Kamili

Kamili wrote: »

I literally cannot see anywhere in the post you quoted that says everyone in receipt of social housing us scum.

The entire thread is about having all social housing recipients together vs mixed with non social housing. The poster said "you don't bring scum to heel by putting them with decent folk", which is where the inference came from.