Rugby World Cup Final 2019 Eng vs S Africa

Loafing Oaf

gally74 wrote: »

Like 4 weeks if required

Cheers. And can the penalised team keep fouling with impunity while its in force? As well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb etc.

is_that_so

2smiggy wrote: »

This penelty advantage is a joke at this stage

Well they did get a second one but after a certain number of phases you take the 3, especially at this stage.

sydthebeat

Happy4all wrote: »

proper tightly contested final, personally enjoying it.

Me too.

De klerk taking an age at the rucks

lawred2

Esse85 wrote: »

Very scrappy final lacking any real quality so far.

Maybe.. but I'm glued to it

Jacovs

Winning more of our own high balls this time around than against wales or japan.

Cork Boy 53

The Nal wrote: »

South Africa are worse to watch than Ireland. This is awful stuff.

Seems like you know little enough about the sport if you think that.

blackwhite

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Cheers. And can the penalised team keep fouling with impunity while its in force? As well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb etc.

They didn’t there. Only one infringement after the original penalty - de Klerk out at the 22. Only the one infringement bear their line

Farrell asked the same question of Garces

SharpshooterTom

Superb kick.

beggars_bush

South Africa play old fashioned cup rugby

2smiggy

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Cheers. And can the penalised team keep fouling with impunity while its in force? As well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb etc.

The ref said 1 penelty, maybe u need to adjust the volume on your television?

MadYaker

Wow that was perfect

mangobob

Brilliant kick.

Cork Boy 53

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Seems like you know little enough about the sport if you think that.

He's a troll. I wouldn't bother.

Faugheen

Liam Toland clearly wants England to win this. Christ he’s a pain to listen to.

sydthebeat

South Africas best play comes when they don't mean it

is_that_so

Bad by Daly!

Jacovs

First good break by Am all world cup? Been solid in defence.

thomond2006

Can Hugh Cahill contribute anything other than England are underperforming?

shootermacg

Clever by SA, don't give the English a chance to attack by kicking it.

Sheep Shagger

SharpshooterTom

That South African scrum is something else.

seligehgit

England scrum is a shambles.

lawred2

Your backside can't say square when the tight head folds inwards

MadYaker

Hope he slots this

ctrl-alt-delete

South Africa will be over the moon with that half.

shootermacg

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Looks like a photoshop to me.

gooch2k9

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

May as well try and shift them if it doesn't go well I suppose!

ednwireland

SA playing to their strengths and england arent good enough

Mrcaramelchoc

Warren gatland is sitting up with his popcorn enjoying every second of this.up yours eddie.

dregin

Disappointed that Garces' refusal to referee the scrum properly is the difference between the two teams here.

ScrubsfanChris

ITV saying English scrum disrupted by Sinclair going off early while at the same time were calling Cole the better scrummager when he came on.

????????

sydthebeat

lawred2 wrote: »

Your backside can't say square when the tight head folds inwards

Agreed, it's coles responsibility to stay square too, and he's folding like paper

Jacovs

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Online retailer in SA doing a promotion aswell. 350 odd customers who bought samsung tv's from them will be refunded if SA win.

ongarite

Losing Sinckler has really hurt England.

Loafing Oaf

blackwhite wrote: »

They didn’t there. Only one infringement after the original penalty - de Klerk out at the 22. Only the one infringement bear their line

Farrell asked the same question of Garces

I'm just asking about the principle of it. You've conceded a penalty in front of the post so you do whatever you have to do not to concede a try? As long as you don't get a yellow, worst 'punishment' is the penalty comes into force.

Esse85

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

Warren gatland is sitting up with his popcorn enjoying every second of this.up yours eddie.

It's far from over and Eddie Jones may very well end up having the last laugh.

LuckyGent88

Perfect half really for SA. Dominating set piece and getting the decisions from Garces.

England are so nervous it’s laughable. Some things you wouldn’t see in junior rugby. Still think they will get it together and get a try or two in the second half as there is gaps in the SA defense.

BarryD2

MadYaker wrote: »

Hope he slots this

Pollard doesn’t hang around with his kicks, does he? Line it up and bang.

The Rape of Lucretia

Its a question of power in the forwards. England are not getting the line breaks and yards from their forwards that they were last week. SA are as strong as them on that front, and so no clear advantage. Still think Englands extra in the backs can do it for them in the second half, but they will have to play well.

This shows why it was essential that Ireland play NZ in the 1/4. NZ forwards are lesser than these two packs, and had Ireland played their best they had some, low, chance of containing the ABs. But no chance of handling the Africans.

Max Headroom

Looks like SA got all the Weetabix this morning...

mangobob

Still half the match to go and plenty of time for England to turn this around. But if I was an England fan I would be seriously worried now. Not by the scoreline but by that performance. Its looking more and more like they had their final last week.

Still think they have enough firepower to turn this around, but they need to find some form and fast. SA are clearly on top here.

Although its fair enough to say this match is poor quality, its still pretty compelling watching for me. Enjoying this.

is_that_so

ednwireland wrote: »

SA playing to their strengths and england arent good enough

It's like they don't have any other plan. This is the other England we've seen over the last couple of years - error prone, giving up penalties and just charging at guys the same size of them. Farrell needs to stop whingeing.

Jacovs

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I'm just asking about the principle of it. You've conceded a penalty in front of the post so you do whatever you have to do not to concede a try? As long as you don't get a yellow, worst 'punishment' is the penalty comes into force.

Could be a penalty try also.

On the subject, how many scrum penalties before a yellow card?

sydthebeat

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I'm just asking about the principle of it. You've conceded a penalty in front of the post so you do whatever you have to do not to concede a try? As long as you don't get a yellow, worst 'punishment' is the penalty comes into force.

A stronger ref would card for consistent penalties.... Especially within the five


However in that passage there was only two pens... And one was way out on the 22

Beechwoodspark

I thought England would be in the lead comfortably by this stage

South Africa have sowed seeds of doubt and panic

Gonna be some second half now.

SharpshooterTom

England still have the capability of turning this around. At least they look like scoring a try.

That SA defence was outstanding in that 15+ phase

The Rape of Lucretia

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Its a question of power in the forwards. England are not getting the line breaks and yards from their forwards that they were last week. SA are as strong as them on that front, and so no clear advantage. Still think Englands extra in the backs can do it for them in the second half, but they will have to play well.

This shows why it was essential that Ireland play NZ in the 1/4. NZ forwards are lesser than these two packs, and had Ireland played their best they had some, low, chance of containing the ABs. But no chance of handling the Africans.

But NZ easily dispatched of SA with their 'lesser forward pack'.

In reality it's knock out rugby, and it all comes down to who performs on the day.

is_that_so

dregin wrote: »

Disappointed that Garces' refusal to referee the scrum properly is the difference between the two teams here.

It's not really, the England scrum hasn't been great anyway. It is backfiring and Cole is not exactly a top notch replacement.

sydthebeat

You can get England +2 right now @evens.


But it doesn't exactly look like value to be honest.

SA could just keep pulling away here with set pieces pens

BarryD2

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

England still have the capability of turning this around. At least they look like scoring a try.

That SA defence was outstanding in that 15+ phase

That works both ways, SA looked fairly handy with ball in hand too at times. Pretty similar teams overall. Which is why it’s close I guess.