Rugby World Cup Final 2019 Eng vs S Africa

Ready4Boarding

I don't see England turning this around. Six points is a big lead in a game so close. And not sure they deserve to. Even SA's back-play looks better. And England having to defend so narrow to counteract SA's physicality has allowed huge overlaps on the wings.

is_that_so

Basil3 wrote: »

But NZ easily dispatched of SA with their 'lesser forward pack'.

In reality it's knock out rugby, and it all comes down to who performs on the day.

NZ, as they say, can play any game. They are not so hot on the fronting up stuff but it doesn't matter as they can get the ball going from anywhere. England have got that interlinked platform but it's not working at all today, SA will grind all day long, but they can play too.

amacca

Basil3 wrote: »

But NZ easily dispatched of SA with their 'lesser forward pack'.

In reality it's knock out rugby, and it all comes down to who performs on the day.

Agreed .... assuming a team has the players, ability, training etc much of it comes down to confidence/motivation on the day.

Professor Genius

That old cliche applies here. Next score is massive.

The Nal

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Seems like you know little enough about the sport if you think that.

I know loads about the sport. More than you clearly.

LuckyGent88

Youngs has been brutal at scrum half today. Shocking passing

SharpshooterTom

Ready4Boarding wrote: »

I don't see England turning this around. Six points is a big lead in a game so close. And not sure they deserve to. Even SA's back-play looks better. And England having to defend so narrow to counteract SA's physicality has allowed huge overlaps on the wings.

They're a converted try away from taking the lead, they were inches away last time.

Still a 50/50 game.

gooch2k9

I wouldn't be parting with any money betting on this.

It only takes a split second opportunity for the likes of May to change this.

is_that_so

gooch2k9 wrote: »

I wouldn't be parting with any money betting on this.

It only takes a split second opportunity for the likes of May to change this.

And yet it look like an age before that will happen!

gooch2k9

is_that_so wrote: »

And yet it look like an age before that will happen!

I do hope you're right! There'll be no listening to England if they win.

LuckyGent88

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Youngs has been brutal at scrum half today. Shocking passing

All tournament

Annabella1

Can see England shipping more penalties at scrum time esp when SA subs come on

eigrod

Like trying to get through a brick wall

is_that_so

England will lose this if that is their plan!

PetKing

Elliott Daly is an actual liability to England. He should be taken off.

FrancieBrady

Funny old game rugby.

lawred2

Daly and Ford not having a great day

is_that_so

PetKing wrote: »

Elliott Daly is an actual liability to England. He should be taken off.

Ford as well. Another crushing scrum.

Jacovs

Very early for the subs coming on. Hope this pays off.

And it does.

shootermacg

Bit early?

SharpshooterTom

Another penalty!

lawred2

England are in serious trouble here

LuckyGent88

Here comes the cavalry

ctrl-alt-delete

South Africa winning the physical and mental battles right now

C__MC

Game over
Another boring world cup final

shootermacg

Awesome scrum.

SharpshooterTom

Why wont South Africa go to the corner?

FarmerBrowne

Is that a wasp you are chewing Eddie?

SharpshooterTom

THAT'S WHY!

gooch2k9

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Why wont South Africa go to the corner?

Cup rugby sir. Move outside a converted try with a penalty.

SlickRic

This is beautifully ugly.

is_that_so

Game over?

Bob Harris

England need a few injuries to front rowers for no contest scrums.

Squidgy Black

C__MC wrote: »

Game over
Another boring world cup final

I don't think it's been boring at all. It hasn't been fast flowing, but it's a different type of skillful display, more of an arm wrestle of a game. It's what South Africa do best.

Some might call it ugly, but it clearly works well.

ednwireland

england in serious trouble here

its not pretty from SA but its working for them

SlickRic

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

South Africa winning the physical and mental battles right now

England were weirdly nervous from minute one. Its been a bizarre performance from them.

The Rape of Lucretia

Basil3 wrote: »

But NZ easily dispatched of SA with their 'lesser forward pack'.

In reality it's knock out rugby, and it all comes down to who performs on the day.

Indeed, but Ireland with a lesser pack would have even a lower chance against SA than NZ. Performance on the day would never make up the gap between the current Eng or SA eights. Against NZ, it can just about.

sydthebeat

England need to get ford off immediately.

He's hiding out there. Two tip on passes in that phase resulting in a turn over

is_that_so

All SA, even England going forward.

SharpshooterTom

South Africa getting booed.

dodderangler

Sa front row is pummeling England now. It’s fantastic.

scott1974

SA got the benefit of the doubt there...

sydthebeat

Competely wrong scrum pen there

ScrubsfanChris

Marler can compete with the SA scrum, but Cole on the other side is toast

SlickRic

Never a penalty against England.

Garces has made up his mind on the scrums now.

Cosmo Kramer

#scrumstraightjoe

dodderangler

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

South Africa getting booed.

Typical of English supporters. No sportsmanship at all. They should boo their own team for a shocking display

is_that_so

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

South Africa getting booed.

England fans frustrated that their own team is playing so badly.

SharpshooterTom

Still think England will win this somehow.

Its been their year in sport, only have to look at the luck they got at the cricket world cup final where they somehow dug that out.

GDK_11

SlickRic wrote: »

Never a penalty against England.

Garces has made up his mind on the scrums now.

SA have been completely dominant in the scrum but struggling to understand that call