Ear to the ground

whelan2

New series starting now

Hard Knocks

whelan2 wrote: »

New series starting now

Just back
Was it any good? Worth a watch on +1

Zeebsisgone654

Dumbed down farming, utter rubbish

PoorFarmer

Darragh telling us how to save hay. Riveting stuff

boggerman1

Ear to the ground.once a great program,sadly no longer

Water John

Problem for many agri programming incl local radio is, they are tied to sponsors.
ETTG now sponsored by Tesco. The conflict of interest is obvious.

Lime Tree Farm

PoorFarmer wrote: »

Darragh telling us how to save hay. Riveting stuff

Question.

Hay cut with a Rotary mower tedded immediately after cutting.

or

Hay cut with a conditioner mower - tedded the following day.

Hard Knocks

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Question.

Hay cut with a Rotary mower tedded immediately after cutting.

or

Hay cut with a conditioner mower - tedded the following day.

Option 2 if not put in rows

Water John

It would tell you the big diff in rainfall between Dublin and the West. Not a chance of making baled hay every year, down here.

Lime Tree Farm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Option 2 if not put in rows

Thank you.

So it is not advisable to scatter the row out on the same day it is cut by a conditioner mower (cut approx. 11.30am) . We got caught out by the weather on the 5th day this year, and I wondered if it had been spread out after the mower, could it have been baled a day earlier.

wrangler

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Thank you.

So it is not advisable to scatter the row out on the same day it is cut by a conditioner mower (cut approx. 11.30am) . We got caught out by the weather on the 5th day this year, and I wondered if it had been spread out after the mower, could it have been baled a day earlier.

I'd say spread it immediately after cutting if the mower didn't spread it

Sheep breeder

Water John wrote: »

It would tell you the big diff in rainfall between Dublin and the West. Not a chance of making baled hay every year, down here.

The Ennis boys are at the hay game since the 70s in the Naul and supplied Purcell for the boats and Dublin zoo, hardy men who work hard.

kk.man

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Thank you.

So it is not advisable to scatter the row out on the same day it is cut by a conditioner mower (cut approx. 11.30am) . We got caught out by the weather on the 5th day this year, and I wondered if it had been spread out after the mower, could it have been baled a day earlier.

You should have been able to to make it on day 5 if you got the weather and the field was in hay the previous year.

alps

Great farming panel and discussion in radio 1 late debate tonight. Thomas Duffy from macra is an incredible performer.

We've been lacking a capable media rep for a long time.. hopecully hell have time to fill some more slots..

lab man

Lime Tree Farm wrote:

So it is not advisable to scatter the row out on the same day it is cut by a conditioner mower (cut approx. 11.30am) . We got caught out by the weather on the 5th day this year, and I wondered if it had been spread out after the mower, could it have been baled a day earlier.

spread there and then

Aravo

If I was unsure of the weather I would bale as haulage. Great stuff to have. And they hold very well. Treated like gold here.

Wildly Boaring

Sheep breeder wrote: »

The Ennis boys are at the hay game since the 70s in the Naul and supplied Purcell for the boats and Dublin zoo, hardy men who work hard.

Some boys to bale and shift straw.
Did a couple harvests up around the Ward about 15 years ago. Ennis brothers were some operation back then.

2 or 3 baling big squares. 2 lifting 8 bales at a time. 1 on volvo stacking. Eating through fields.

_Brian

Got a chance to watch it back on the Player online.

You have to wonder who the target audience is for ETTG, anyone actively involved in farming got nothing from that episode at all.

They covered three topics;

Brexit - stupid people believed the lies and now their business is at risk they regret it.

Hay - it’s made from dry grass and you need sunny weather.

Beef Protests - it divided beef farmers and nobody can say if much was achieved, while prices continue to fall

I think the presenters are capable of far more, but probably someone above that wants a “farming for donnybrook” style program.


Honestly it’s hard to see it worth making much effort to watch another episode.

wrangler

_Brian wrote: »

Got a chance to watch it back on the Player online.

You have to wonder who the target audience is for ETTG, anyone actively involved in farming got nothing from that episode at all.

They covered three topics;

Brexit - stupid people believed the lies and now their business is at risk they regret it.

Hay - it’s made from dry grass and you need sunny weather.

Beef Protests - it divided beef farmers and nobody can say if much was achieved, while prices continue to fall

I think the presenters are capable of far more, but probably someone above that wants a “farming for donnybrook” style program.


Honestly it’s hard to see it worth making much effort to watch another episode.

They seem to be able to pull the viewers that they wouldn't get if the did technical.
The mii guy made it plain that they'd lose customers before they'd give in to farmers and the customers they put off won't be as sympathetic the next time.
That was putting down a marker for those at the gates, they know the risks now

kk.man

wrangler wrote: »

They seem to be able to pull the viewers that they wouldn't get if the did technical.
The mii guy made it plain that they'd lose customers before they'd give in to farmers and the customers they put off won't be as sympathetic the next time.
That was putting down a marker for those at the gates, they know the risks now

The CEO of Bord Bia was asked recently was any custom lost as result of the protests and her reply was she wasn't aware of any loss of business.
I take MII with a grain of salt at this stage.

wrangler

kk.man wrote: »

The CEO of Bord Bia was asked recently was any custom lost as result of the protests and her reply was she wasn't aware of any loss of business.
I take MII with a grain of salt at this stage.

Did that farmer at the end actually have any beef cattle when he was threatening to keep the clusterfock mess going.
Can't wait to see it again on RTE Player

memorystick

wrangler wrote: »

Did that farmer at the end actually have any beef cattle when he was threatening to keep the clusterfock mess going.
Can't wait to see it again on RTE Player

You do realise that the farmer producing the calf is the first link in the production chain. All slaughtered animals have been calves at some stage.

wrangler

memorystick wrote: »

You do realise that the farmer producing the calf is the first link in the production chain. All slaughtered animals have been calves at some stage.

and weanlings never stopped being sold while those with beef cattle weren't let sell, yea that's very fair alright,
If they weren't so selfish they'd keep their own cattle out of the marts in support for the eight weeks.
I'd say that happened alright

amacca

wrangler wrote: »

and weanlings never stopped being sold while those with beef cattle weren't let sell, yea that's very fair alright,
If they weren't so selfish they'd keep their own cattle out of the marts in support for the eight weeks.
I'd say that happened alright

I'd have to agree with you on that........divided they'll fall etc

lalababa

wrangler wrote: »

They seem to be able to pull the viewers that they wouldn't get if the did technical.
The mii guy made it plain that they'd lose customers before they'd give in to farmers and the customers they put off won't be as sympathetic the next time.
That was putting down a marker for those at the gates, they know the risks now

Arra yeah, but sure there's no point in sending animals in at a loss. Basically feck the factories and feck the customers. In any other business if your customers wanted you to sell your product to them at below cost you'd wouldn't be long telling them where to go.

wrangler

lalababa wrote: »

Arra yeah, but sure there's no point in sending animals in at a loss. Basically feck the factories and feck the customers. In any other business if your customers wanted you to sell your product to them at below cost you'd wouldn't be long telling them where to go.

And you wouldn't block the gates to stop others selling to them though

Dinzee Conlee

lalababa wrote: »

Arra yeah, but sure there's no point in sending animals in at a loss. Basically feck the factories and feck the customers. In any other business if your customers wanted you to sell your product to them at below cost you'd wouldn't be long telling them where to go.

The flip side is in any other business if you paid your suppliers below cost, they would stop producing...
Not so with farming

_Brian

Would Daragh be the weakest of the three presenters ?
I find him the hardest to listen to anyway.

lalababa

I wouldn't block gates no. I might stand near the road with a placard. But I wouldn't block gates. Twould be in my eyes unlawful, and ****ty on those that want to sell animals or are hauling.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Mod note: Folks, the blockade discussion thread is linked below, I think it would be best if that conversation was kept in that thread.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=111657429#post111657429

Thanks in advance,

Buford T. Justice

whelan2

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Some boys to bale and shift straw.
Did a couple harvests up around the Ward about 15 years ago. Ennis brothers were some operation back then.

2 or 3 baling big squares. 2 lifting 8 bales at a time. 1 on volvo stacking. Eating through fields.

Oh worked for them 30 years ago. Sound people

Base price

I only got a chance to see the programme tonight in full on the RTE player. In fairness to Eamonn Corley he admitted that the blockades didn't achieve much but unfortunately he didn't admit to the cluster fook that he and his ilk created to the determent of their fellow farmers :mad:

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he the first to resign his Directorship from the beef plan movement limited company when their strikes began.

Castlekeeper

alps wrote: »

Great farming panel and discussion in radio 1 late debate tonight. Thomas Duffy from macra is an incredible performer.

We've been lacking a capable media rep for a long time.. hopecully hell have time to fill some more slots..

He seemsto be a well researched alright, hopefully he'll keep the front up and doesnt show his true colours someday and let us all down. He's been well known to be acting somewhere between a maggot and a disgrace at times over the years on social media.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Castlekeeper wrote: »

He seemsto be a well researched alright, hopefully he'll keep the front up and doesnt show his true colours someday and let us all down. He's been well known to be acting somewhere between a maggot and a disgrace at times over the years on social media.

I've been following him on social media for a couple of years now and haven't seen him acting the maggot. I've been on a course with him a number of years ago and seen no sign of any behaviour of that sort during the course or after it.

He came across as being well informed about different aspects of agriculture that was discussed and dissected there. We didn't always agree on different aspects but he always discussed the disagreement extremely civilly, tbh.

Capercaillie

Castlekeeper wrote: »

He seemsto be a well researched alright, hopefully he'll keep the front up and doesnt show his true colours someday and let us all down. He's been well known to be acting somewhere between a maggot and a disgrace at times over the years on social media.

Maggot/disgrace would be about right!

Keep Sluicing

Capercaillie wrote: »

Maggot/disgrace would be about right!

Jesus lads ye are firing awful slurs about that lad, without giving any context

wrangler

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

Jesus lads ye are firing awful slurs about that lad, without giving any context

Good to see I'm not the only one that finds it hard to tolerate this ****e,

Dakota Dan

PoorFarmer wrote: »

Darragh telling us how to save hay. Riveting stuff

You wouldn’t save much hay this weather.

tractorporn

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

Jesus lads ye are firing awful slurs about that lad, without giving any context

I've had a few run in with him on one of the farming groups on Facebook, didn't awful running down of the organic sector at the time. It's about 5 years ago now or maybe more I cant check now cos I've deleted Facebook. I've noticed he switched to twitter and stopped the bashing since he started climbing up through Macra.

whelan2

On next on rte1

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whelan2 wrote: »

On next on rte1

Thanks for the reminder whelan. I will catch it on RTE +1.

Dunedin

Anyone know any more of the pros and cons on the Saturn farm model.

Seemed interesting.

farisfat

Dunedin wrote: »

Anyone know any more of the pros and cons on the Saturn farm model.

Seemed interesting.

I know nothing about Saturn but it looks like they take a cut for organising partnerships.

Dunedin

farisfat wrote: »

I know nothing about Saturn but it looks like they take a cut for organising partnerships.

Enough to pay a ceo at that too........

Seems a good way for a young farmer to get into a few cows/career that may not have land of their own.

wrangler

I didn't watch it but I know the vegetable farmers, they worked so hard, backbreaking work as well.
They've a good business and now no one to take it over,
Same story countrywide I suppose

Muckit

wrangler wrote: »

and weanlings never stopped being sold while those with beef cattle weren't let sell, yea that's very fair alright,
If they weren't so selfish they'd keep their own cattle out of the marts in support for the eight weeks.
I'd say that happened alright

Very very true. Factories and marts next time. Only thing l see wrong is it would probably finish some marts if closed for 8weeks. That would be tragic

alps

Muckit wrote: »

Very very true. Factories and marts next time. Only thing l see wrong is it would probably finish some marts if closed for 8weeks. That would be tragic

It would finish a few farmers if closed for a few weeks...

wrangler

alps wrote: »

It would finish a few farmers if closed for a few weeks...

There's a lot of farmers that won't let them close a factory again, I was talking to a couple last night that ran the gauntlet

whelan2

On now. Organic hen man was interesting.

wrangler

whelan2 wrote: »

On now. Organic hen man was interesting.

A friend has 8000 hens, organic, I think it takes him 2hrs twice a day to collect the eggs, elevator brings them out and he puts them on trays......mind numbing work, might as well be milking

older by the day

Anyone watching this programme tonight. That butcher bit was a bit too real, for most tonight, and how much did it cost to build that distilleries, big investment I'd say. There must be big money in it