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Not Kerr again

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭dasdog


    Kerr is an excellent pundit and commentator. He adores the game and aside from his existing knowledge he always puts in his homework. You'll hear him talk before a match for example about a winger playing for a lesser known team in Europe and how he is looking forward to seeing the link up play and the recent form of the player. Or if a similar team is winning say a low key Europa league game and a player comes off "We'll they do have a big derby match coming up back home next weekend so no surprise there".


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,375 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    That’s your opinion dude, and stop using the word ‘ hatred’ it just puts one into the ‘bitter and twisted’ chair, unable to understand others point of view without developing a froth- mouthed attitude.

    Oh c'mon, we're being very civil to each other, don't resort to ad hominen - you should be able to stick up for your arguments a bit better than that. My mouth remains unmoved.

    Maybe I've mischaracterised your feelings about Kerr. Would strong dislike be more accurate? You have started multiple threads about the man, expressing a strong and - some would say - irrational dislike - so it can be hard to get the semantics absolutely right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Arghus wrote: »
    Oh c'mon, we're being very civil to each other, don't resort to ad hominen - you should be able to stick up for your arguments a bit better than that. My mouth remains unmoved.

    Maybe I've mischaracterised your feelings about Kerr. Would strong dislike be more accurate? You have started multiple threads about the man, expressing a strong and - some would say - irrational dislike - so it can be hard to get the semantics absolutely right.

    Sorry, my friend, I have been very civil up to when I was subjected to abuse.

    I have no dislike for Mr Kerr as a person, it’s the professional realm I criticize,and criticize fairly.

    I fully accept some may like the product, but I don’t, and have said so, as I have repeated quite often.

    Putting forward the use of colloquialisms as proof of good punditry is, for me , a cop out, it’s a grab at a certain audience for whom that kind of presentation resonates with .

    It doesn’t with me, and I’m good with that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,375 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Sorry, my friend, I have been very civil up to when I was subjected to abuse.

    I have no dislike for Mr Kerr as a person, it’s the professional realm I criticize,and criticize fairly.

    I fully accept some may like the product, but I don’t, and have said so, as I have repeated quite often.

    Putting forward the use of colloquialisms as proof of good punditry is, for me , a cop out, it’s a grab at a certain audience for whom that kind of presentation resonates with .

    It doesn’t with me, and I’m good with that.

    Abuse? Are you really that thin skinned. The poster doth protest too much methinks.

    I don't agree that you criticise Kerr fairly. You have suggested strongly - in fact you've stated explicitly - that you don't actually listen to him and switch him off whenever your hear his voice or his "whine", as you would put it. That leaves you ill equipped to critique his merits or otherwise and makes your somewhat arbitrary grievances against his capabilities in the "professional realm" appear flimsy and without any real foundation. Dyaknoworrimean?

    His use of colloquialisms is far from the only aspect of Kerr's modus operandi that posters have mentioned in his defence in this thread, but if you want to persist - despite evidence to the contrary - that this is the only thing people enjoy about his commentary style, then, fair enough, I guess.

    Although it would appear that to compliment your unwillingness to actually listen to Kerr, you've also developed an unwillingness to actually read through your own thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    In my opinion that would be the death knell for RTEs soccer coverage.

    I have nothing personal against Mr Kerr, but to give him mic time especially in a co-com position,in my opinion, would be disasterous.

    I often wonder what this ‘quirky information’ is and how it enhances commentary.

    Houghton and Whelan are no great shakes either, having a less than smooth familiarisation with the English language.


    At least one could switch off panel discussions but as a co commentator the game would be unwatchable and unlistenable to.

    Will not be a runner, I feel.

    You don't like him, I do. As a pundit, he's ok, but he shines as a co-commentator.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    You don't like him, I do. As a pundit, he's ok, but he shines as a co-commentator.

    As I keep saying, as a person I’m sure he’s a fine man, it’s his presentation style I do not like.

    As a co-commentator I think he is way too intrusive, annoying, way too gobby and whiney, and goes on far too long.


    That’s my opinion, nothing against the man personally, but I prefer a more muted,more in synch co commentary where the c/com comes in in small inserts at minor breaks in play.

    I feel over egging the colloquialisms is extremely annoying and much prefer some genuine reaction comments rather than coming out with

    “Shourah giviner a good dunnth” kind of rubbish.

    Not for me, compadre.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    it's a bit of snobbery too, I'd say. Because he doesn't have an English or fake English accent like some, he gets stick.

    He knows more about football than anyone else in this country, does his research on the teams playing, and uses his experience to give exceptional insight into what he's commenting on. Far better than stealing a living and coming out with dated platitudes and wishy washy non-comments, at the end of the day there.

    So what if he has a strange turn of phrase. Snobbishness, as I've said.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55,474 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I think it's Brendan vs. everyone here.

    Any reason to keep this thread open?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭mattser


    Mr E wrote: »
    I think it's Brendan vs. everyone here.

    Any reason to keep this thread open?

    Absolutely none compadre, sahib........


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    No reason.

    I defended my position, whilst watching the rugby, great commentary from Hugh and Donal, in synch, calm, and your head isn’t melted at the end of it.

    I’m happy with whatever happens the thread, but feel there is no harm or ulterior motive in airing opinions like this.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Hopefully on topic, heard a lad Paul Corry on RTE radio sports excerpt this am analyzing the Denmark game last night.

    Came across as very concise,articulate,informed,and easy to listen to.

    Think I heard he was x Shamrock Rovers.

    Some broadcaster could do worse than to sign him up.

    Might be a good change from what we have to put up with.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Kerr has ridiculous knowledge but he does have a voice for newspapers


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Jaysus, much relief Kerr isn’t co comm.

    Wouldn’t be able to hack that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Will someone tell Kerr to shut the f***k up.

    He hasn’t shut his jaw since this Italy- England game has started.

    Way too much input.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,587 ✭✭✭Allinall




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    No it’s not, what is the commentator there for?

    To learn Italian.

    Hasn't shut up since the game started.

    Ruining the game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,587 ✭✭✭Allinall


    He’s the co commentator, co commenting.

    He has no influence on the game.

    Turn the sound down if you’re so offended.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Switched the game off, couldn’t take that for 90mins

    Cant understand why they let that guy co commentate.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,102 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Didn't know the great man was on tonight, turning it on now



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Kerr: Face for radio and a voice for print



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    I'm a fan of Kerr, would much rather him than Ronnie Whelan or Stephen Kelly. Can't listen to either of them. Ronnie Whelan's voice and misery goes through my head and Stephen Kelly's voice isn't much better, Kelly also seems like he can barely get a sentence out of his mouth sometimes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,409 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Theres a pro english bias with Kerr thats pìssing me off....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    The boy is just not suited for co commentator….never shut up the whole first half.Melt your head.

    Way way too gobby and intrusive…. Studio gives you some chance to enjoy a game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,409 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    I respect Kerr but he is too relentless as a co-commentator...keep him in the studio...

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Yes, way too relentless, you are correct.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,102 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,939 ✭✭✭trashcan


    I’ve always felt a lot of the anti Kerr stuff is pure snobbery, because he has a working class Dublin accent and not a D4 type voice.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's a proper working class Dublin accent though. I wouldn't be a fan of the modern interpretation of that at all, but Kerr has a way of speaking and using language that is extraordinary. I love when he's a pundit on Virgin or Newstalk. He has such a passion for soccer and, unlike lots of other pundits, knows the name, strengths, and weaknesses of every player, club or country he is providing commentary on.

    I wish he'd do a podcast tbh. We might have reached "peak podcast" at this stage, but I'd love to hear Kerr chatting away with players, managers, journalists etc.

    The best thing about proper national treasures is that they don't know they are national treasures.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    This punditry lark. Talk about money for old rope. If I had one euro for every time I have heard a pundit say anything truly insightful about the game of football I would have zero euro.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,163 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    We can enjoy this game, the ‘great man ‘’is in the studio.

    Lets see how the current co com does.

    Hmmm… not too promising so far.



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