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Ireland Team Talk XI: Team of nervoUS MOD warning Post 1

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    #5882
    Dwarf.Shortage
    Registered Users Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Dwarf.Shortage


    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/matt-williams-ireland-will-need-to-step-up-on-wales-display-to-prevail-at-twickers-1.4179821

    Am I on my own in finding 90% of Matt Williams' articles unbearable to read, the letter to Conor Murray a few weeks ago was genuinely cringe inducing.


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    #5883
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Dwarf.Shortage wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/matt-williams-ireland-will-need-to-step-up-on-wales-display-to-prevail-at-twickers-1.4179821

    Am I on my own in finding 90% of Matt Williams' articles unbearable to read, the letter to Conor Murray a few weeks ago was genuinely cringe inducing.

    You read them, so job done


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    #5884
    KWAG2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    This game comes down to England. If they turn up Ireland get a hammering. If they are misfiring we have a chance.


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    #5885
    sydthebeat
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    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    This game comes down to England. If they turn up Ireland get a hammering. If they are misfiring we have a chance.

    If only sport was so binary


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    #5886
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Is there no match thread?


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    #5887
    PhlegmyMoses
    Registered Users Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    If only sport was so binary

    It also suggests that England are player for player better than Ireland, which I just don't accept. England have 2 players who I believe are out and out better than their Irish counterparts - Itoje and Billy V - and then Tuilagi on his day probably. The rest is all pretty close tbh with Ireland shading it in some areas and England in others.


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    #5888
    ionadnapokot
    Registered Users Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    PhlegmyMoses wrote: »
    It also suggests that England are player for player better than Ireland, which I just don't accept. England have 2 players who I believe are out and out better than their Irish counterparts - Itoje and Billy V - and then Tuilagi on his day probably. The rest is all pretty close tbh with Ireland shading it in some areas and England in others.

    Few harder to stop with ball in hand. Expecting England will use Tuilagi early and often.
    His tackling is ferocious and sometimes wild and dangerous.

    Fond of the big hit on lads coming down with the ball.
    If he gets his timing wrong he could find himself in the bin. And the recipient in hospital.
    v’s Larmour
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MgjmV2TAE
    v’s Boffelli
    https://www.gettyimages.ie/detail/news-photo/emiliano-boffelli-of-argentina-is-tackled-by-manu-tuilagi-news-photo/1173729204


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    #5889
    KWAG2019
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    If only sport was so binary

    Exactly how many teams do you think are playing?!


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    #5890
    KWAG2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    PhlegmyMoses wrote: »
    It also suggests that England are player for player better than Ireland, which I just don't accept. England have 2 players who I believe are out and out better than their Irish counterparts - Itoje and Billy V - and then Tuilagi on his day probably. The rest is all pretty close tbh with Ireland shading it in some areas and England in others.

    I think that England are superior across most positions. I think they are faster to the breakdown and stronger in the collision. If they get settled early we will be hammered.


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    #5891
    armchaircoach
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    ionadnapokot wrote: »
    Few harder to stop with ball in hand. Expecting England will use Tuilagi early and often.
    His tackling is ferocious and sometimes wild and dangerous.

    Fond of the big hit on lads coming down with the ball.
    If he gets his timing wrong he could find himself in the bin. And the recipient in hospital.
    v’s Larmour
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MgjmV2TAE
    v’s Boffelli
    https://www.gettyimages.ie/detail/news-photo/emiliano-boffelli-of-argentina-is-tackled-by-manu-tuilagi-news-photo/1173729204

    Well then, I'm sure we're all glad that today's ref has a great track record when it comes to giving a **** about reckless and dangerous tackles!


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    #5892
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    Exactly how many teams do you think are playing?!

    From your post you obviously only think one is playing


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    #5893
    [Deleted User]
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    Nigzcurran wrote: »
    Is there no match thread?

    Your doing a match thread?

    Thanks Nigzcurran


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    #5894
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Your doing a match thread?

    Thanks Nigzcurran

    Doh! Sorry man I can barely spell rugbee or work out how to do stuff on the internet


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    #5895
    KWAG2019
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    From your post you obviously only think one is playing

    The point I made is very obvious. It’s not the point you choose to take but that’s your problem.

    Ireland playing at or close to their best will hold or beat England by a small margin. England on form will hammer Ireland. There is a gulf in athleticism, pace and power between the two sides. It depends on which England turns up.


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    #5896
    stephen_n
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    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    The point I made is very obvious. It’s not the point you choose to take but that’s your problem.

    Ireland playing at or close to their best will hold or beat England by a small margin. England on form will hammer Ireland. There is a gulf in athleticism, pace and power between the two sides. It depends on which England turns up.

    The one without the athleticism and power of the Vuininpola’s


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    #5897
    sydthebeat
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    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    The point I made is very obvious. It’s not the point you choose to take but that’s your problem.

    Ireland playing at or close to their best will hold or beat England by a small margin. England on form will hammer Ireland. There is a gulf in athleticism, pace and power between the two sides. It depends on which England turns up.

    I've no problem

    You specifically stated the outcome of the game depended on how one team played.

    That's incredibly naive and shows a compete lack of understanding of top level sport.


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    #5898
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Interested Observer wrote: »
    He coached the U20s for a season, they were terrible from what I recall.
    he was an assistant and cant say too much of his coaching abilities from that
    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    HE wasn't the head coach.....he was there with Kelleher etc, seen interview Kelleher saying it was good to meethim again
    who was Kelleher?


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    #5899
    Interested Observer
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    Right Andy, this continuity Schmidt effort has failed, it's done, build a new squad.


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    #5900
    Clegg
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    No idea what has happened to Stockdale. Had a poor 2019 by his standards, was improving his performances this season, but in one game has plummeted down to a level worse than last year.


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    #5901
    KWAG2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    I've no problem

    You specifically stated the outcome of the game depended on how one team played.

    That's incredibly naive and shows a compete lack of understanding of top level sport.

    Which is entirely correct given the gulf in class.


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    #5902
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Interested Observer wrote: »
    Right Andy, this continuity Schmidt effort has failed, it's done, build a new squad.

    A new squad? So 30 odd new players? Who/where are these players?


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    #5903
    Interested Observer
    Registered Users Posts: 13,021 ✭✭✭✭Interested Observer


    Eod100 wrote: »
    A new squad? So 30 odd new players? Who/where are these players?

    Sweet post, well done.


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    #5904
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    Which is entirely correct given the gulf in class.

    Again, not how sport works... But you know that... You're just trying to double down


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    #5905
    KWAG2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Again, not how sport works... But you know that... You're just trying to double down

    I’m stating facts as you well know. England just gone over again and you know what they haven’t even hit top form. You have a theory and the theory has met reality.


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    #5906
    [Deleted User]
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    Just need to try to not be embarrassed here now, we're beaten in each and every facet of the game.


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    #5907
    mfceiling
    Registered Users Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Interested Observer wrote: »
    Right Andy, this continuity Schmidt effort has failed, it's done, build a new squad.

    Doris, Kelleher, Cooney, L'Armour, Deegan, Conway.

    Not enough?


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    #5908
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    I’m stating facts as you well know

    Its simply not a fact that a result depends on how one team plays.

    But you keep on thinking that ;)


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    #5909
    [Deleted User]
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    We didn't so much as fire a shot today. If anything I'd say England went easy on us, we didn't come close to threatening them.

    We look badly coached.


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    #5910
    KWAG2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Its simply not a fact that a result depends on how one team plays.

    But you keep on thinking that ;)

    And you keep on refusing to face reality. I predicted 12-20 points difference for England. .


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    #5911
    AbusesToilets
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    We didn't so much as fire a shot today. If anything I'd say England went easy on us, we didn't come close to threatening them.

    We look badly coached.

    There's no invention in our back play, no ability to generate busts thru the middle. We need a backrow that can carry and offload, and frankly an outhalf who can do more. Sexton is on a downward arc and isn't up to threatening the line the way he used to. Probably two years too early to look at the likes of Harry Bryne or the like


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