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Six TD's and senators forced to refund illegitimate expense claims
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Johnny Dogs wrote: »So to recap, even though the report vindicated Maria of any wrong doing, (your words) and the whole storm in a teacup or nothingness will be blown over and forgot about after summer recess (still your words) Bailey should still be made to walk the plank?
Like don't get me wrong, you were pretty much just pissin into the wind with your predictions about how and when people would still be discussing this, that was a guess to be fair, and you got it woefully wrong.
The startling thing for me (and j guess I ain't alone on it) is your earlier assesment of the report leo commissioned on Bailey, and despite not seeing it - you were pretty adamant, extremely adamant in fact that it completely exonerated her - and she had been vindicated, and people really should just move on.
As far as I know, there's not been much of the reports details having being leaked at this stage, and apart from the expense story, where she was seen to be trying to claw back a couple of grand she was not entitled to, which you explained away as a "simple miscalculation".
You've been pretty emphatic on your support for deputy Bailey for five months now, holding her buried report as having exonerated her, and the miscalculations excuse for the expense stroke, but suddenly you now say she's gotta go.
That's some turning point, for no real reason (that I can see anyway).
Was it a slow turning point Paddy, or do you reckon you can pinpoint the exact moment and time you found yourself on the road to Damascus?
Discuss.
Fair play to you writing all that out Jessica Fletcher.
Don't know whats confusing you though. The fact that I said the report exonerated her and the fact that I'm glad to hear she will be removed from the ticket aren't mutually exclusive.
Just a bit of realpolitik (that means politics based on practical rather than moral or ideological considerations.
) means that as a Fine Gael member I'm glad she won't be on the ticket for the next GE.
It's simple stuff Johnny.0 -
Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »Don't know whats confusing you though. The fact that I said the report exonerated her and the fact that I'm glad to hear she will be removed from the ticket aren't mutually exclusive.
Just a bit of realpolitik (that means politics based on practical rather than moral or ideological considerations. ) means that as a Fine Gael member I'm glad she won't be on the ticket for the next GE.
It's simple stuff Johnny.
So you want to see an exonerated woman removed from the ticket, just because.
Seems legit.0 -
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Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »Fair play to you writing all that out Jessica Fletcher.
Don't know whats confusing you though. The fact that I said the report exonerated her and the fact that I'm glad to hear she will be removed from the ticket aren't mutually exclusive.
Just a bit of realpolitik (that means politics based on practical rather than moral or ideological considerations. ) means that as a Fine Gael member I'm glad she won't be on the ticket for the next GE.
It's simple stuff Johnny.
Party before anything else then, it seems.0 -
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Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
Just a bit of realpolitik (that means politics based on practical rather than moral or ideological considerations. ) means that as a Fine Gael member I'm glad she won't be on the ticket for the next GE.
It's simple stuff Johnny.
Paddy, there is a shockingly condescending tone to many of your posts but this one really combines that and the sense of a drowning man standing on his crew mates shoulders to survive in a sad pastiche of finally seeing the light
The time for RealPolitik was when Bailey's honesty, candour and integrity were exposed for the shams they are.
Instead FG pulled every delaying tactic possible to push it out and hope it would drop out of the news cycle.
The lack of strong or even effective leadership has been laid bare.
That the decision to drop Bailey was left to Machiavellian local level back stabbing?
Rather than ruled on definitively one way or the other after the report, i.e back her or sack her!
Really only leads to speculation that she held feet of senior colleagues to the fire and they took no action for fear of fallout.
That her oustier was left to backroom "local" machinations only compounds that impression.
In a week that FF have been found to be fiddling votes, Bailey is still the political headline.0 -
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. They both have some neck,but we already know that ! 
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