Leader of country caught up in blackface controversy.

jimgoose · 19-09-2019 3:19pm

From FB comments:

"When I was a kid I dressed up as a witch, I feel bad now, I've just emailed Joan Burton and apologized."

:pac::pac::pac:

piplip87 · 19-09-2019 3:19pm

Can somebody please fill me in in what's racist about this ?

Dressing up as a TV characters for fancy dress isn't racist. Unless he started doing Nazi Salutes or said I hate Indians while doing it.

Is this that cultural appropriation thing again ? I seen a black man once drink a Guinness with a Jameson chaser ? Does that count ?

Jamiekelly · 19-09-2019 3:31pm

Since when did an Irish forum become so hyper American? It's fairly cringey at this stage.

notobtuse · 19-09-2019 3:36pm

Jamiekelly wrote: »

Since when did an Irish forum become so hyper American? It's fairly cringey at this stage.

It's gotta be exhausting being that angry and outraged at Trump all of the time.

ELM327 · 19-09-2019 3:36pm

It's not racist FFS
Now if Trump did it the libtards in the media would be all over him for it so I hope leos BFF gets it too

Jamiekelly · 19-09-2019 3:38pm

notobtuse wrote: »

It's gotta be exhausting being that angry and outraged at Trump all of the time.

What are you on about? I didn't even mention Trump

But thanks for proving my point.

AllGunsBlazing · 19-09-2019 3:39pm

piplip87 wrote: »

Can somebody please fill me in in what's racist about this ?

Dressing up as a TV characters for fancy dress isn't racist. Unless he started doing Nazi Salutes or said I hate Indians while doing it.

Is this that cultural appropriation thing again ? I seen a black man once drink a Guinness with a Jameson chaser ? Does that count ?

"Culturally insensitive", I believe is what the youngsters are it calling nowadays.

Must admit I'm rather enjoying all of this. It's not that I even dislike him as a politician as much as I just dislike him. He just seems so incredibly smug.

James Brown · 19-09-2019 3:40pm

notobtuse wrote: »

It's gotta be exhausting being that angry and outraged at Trump all of the time.

It's not our fault you people elected a loolah who hates the general public and science.

James Brown · 19-09-2019 3:41pm

ELM327 wrote: »

It's not racist FFS
Now if Trump did it the libtards in the media would be all over him for it so I hope leos BFF gets it too

Who's defending him? Your nose is out of joint because nobody is.
Seriously man, lay off the Republican propaganda. Is Leo friends with 'King of the lefties'? If Leo really messes up will he be a commie or something? :rolleyes:
Funny how pretty much every country is run by a right winger yet right wingers see conspiracy everywhere. Maybe pick better stooges to make leaders.

19-09-2019 3:42pm

piplip87 wrote: »

Can somebody please fill me in in what's racist about this ?

In my opinion nothing at all.

However if you open the link in the OP and scroll down a little there is a link to another article called "What is Blackface ?". This article goes a good way to explain the concerns - which I think mostly ridiculous and not applicable - of the people who are bothered by it.

While I do not agree with most of that position - it pays to at least understand it. So it was a useful article for me. Perhaps you will find it so too.

notobtuse · 19-09-2019 3:42pm

Jamiekelly wrote: »

What are you on about? I didn't even mention Trump

But thanks for proving my point.

It's called humor. And by-the-way... I'm American. I don't think it proves your point.

jam_mac_jam · 19-09-2019 3:45pm

piplip87 wrote: »

Can somebody please fill me in in what's racist about this ?

Dressing up as a TV characters for fancy dress isn't racist. Unless he started doing Nazi Salutes or said I hate Indians while doing it.

Is this that cultural appropriation thing again ? I seen a black man once drink a Guinness with a Jameson chaser ? Does that count ?

Historically in the US it was used to mock people. Its not really seen as badly in Europe in my opinion. I think in relation to minstrels and stereotypes of black people in the US it is seen as mockery by black people.

jimgoose · 19-09-2019 3:45pm

Deleted User wrote: »

In my opinion nothing at all.

However if you open the link in the OP and scroll down a little there is a link to another article called "What is Blackface ?". This article goes a good way to explain the concerns - which I think mostly ridiculous and not applicable - of the people who are bothered by it.

While I do not agree with most of that position - it pays to at least understand it. So it was a useful article for me. Perhaps you will find it so too.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 19-09-2019 3:46pm

Jamiekelly wrote: »

Since when did an Irish forum become so hyper American? It's fairly cringey at this stage.

It’s a current affairs forum. Not Irish current affairs.

James Brown · 19-09-2019 3:49pm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

It’s a current affairs forum. Not Irish current affairs.

He might mean all the psychotic americanised 'them and us' 'lefty/righty' ****e like thinking Trudeau is the hero of some homogeneous liberal movement to try score points in an imagined war.

Outlaw Pete · 19-09-2019 4:10pm

Says the user who posts more than anyone else in those threads, usually endorsing the nonsense view that fascists and nazis are taking over.

tayto lover · 19-09-2019 4:14pm

Have the “Black & White Minstrels” been executed yet?

Forty Seven · 19-09-2019 4:17pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Have the “Black & White Minstrels” been executed yet?

They've gone underground.

Overheal · 19-09-2019 4:20pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Says the user who posts more than anyone else in those threads, usually endorsing the nonsense view that fascists and nazis are taking over.

Says the user that very often posts "grr the fascist leftists" horse****.

(Do we really wanna start this today? I don't. But I'll finish it!)

edit:

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Says the user who posts more than anyone else in those threads, usually endorsing the nonsense view that fascists and nazis are taking over.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

The more you speak the more you sound like you're talking about the fascist left.

With their gender quota laws, and incorrect pronoun legislation, and lord knows what's next in terms of qualifying as hate speech.

Time and again lefties have been shown that when put in positions in power they will do their level best to pass laws which are insane.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/38293/Now-Labour-plans-law-to-bar-white-men-from-jobs

Looks like a pot calling the kettle black, Pete Pete.

peddlelies · 19-09-2019 4:29pm

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Jesus christ, is this really what the world has come to. You can actually get in trouble these days for dressing up at a fancy dress party?

Reminds me of this.

At Yale, in 2015, they (Professor and Wife) were involved in a controversy related to the regulation of Halloween costumes. On October 29, 2015, Christakis' wife Erika Christakis, a Lecturer on Early Childhood Education at the Yale Child Study Center, wrote an e-mail to Yale undergraduates on the role of free expression in universities; she argued, from a developmental perspective, that students might wish to consider whether administrators should provide guidance on Halloween attire or whether students might wish to be allowed to "dress themselves."

This e-mail was in response to a long earlier e-mail sent to undergraduates by a group of 14 administrators at Yale which suggested students be careful when choosing Halloween costumes, and which provided links to recommended and non-recommended costumes.The e-mail played a role in protests on campus that received national attention in the United States.

Brainwashed idiots. Did they miss there squish toy/play-doh class that day I wonder.

ToBeFrank123 · 19-09-2019 4:39pm

Nothing story. How was he to know 15 years down the line he'd be Prime Minister and subjected to this?

And blackfacing has only become a negative thing in the last couple of years.

This is just moral revisionism gone mad. Next you won't be able to dress up as Pocahontus!

Portsalon · 19-09-2019 4:47pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

This is just moral revisionism gone mad. Next you won't be able to dress up as Pocahontus!

Or as his missus!

Granadino · 19-09-2019 4:48pm

Iniesta was hauled over the proverbial coals when he posted a pic earlier this year from los reyes magos, but Trudeau is only having a bit of fun. Social media justice warriors etc are the biggest **** of the lot.
I do not care what politicians in Canada or the USA do. I do not buy into this US identity politics stuff.

Portsalon · 19-09-2019 4:48pm

jimgoose wrote: »

From FB comments:

"When I was a kid I dressed up as a witch, I feel bad now, I've just emailed Joan Burton and apologized."

:pac::pac::pac:

Might have been wiser to have emailed Ruth Coppinger.

DavidLyons_ · 19-09-2019 5:06pm

peddlelies wrote: »

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Jesus christ, is this really what the world has come to. You can actually get in trouble these days for dressing up at a fancy dress party?

Reminds me of this.

At Yale, in 2015, they (Professor and Wife) were involved in a controversy related to the regulation of Halloween costumes. On October 29, 2015, Christakis' wife Erika Christakis, a Lecturer on Early Childhood Education at the Yale Child Study Center, wrote an e-mail to Yale undergraduates on the role of free expression in universities; she argued, from a developmental perspective, that students might wish to consider whether administrators should provide guidance on Halloween attire or whether students might wish to be allowed to "dress themselves."

This e-mail was in response to a long earlier e-mail sent to undergraduates by a group of 14 administrators at Yale which suggested students be careful when choosing Halloween costumes, and which provided links to recommended and non-recommended costumes.The e-mail played a role in protests on campus that received national attention in the United States.

Brainwashed idiots. Did they miss there squish toy/play-doh class that day I wonder.

Hahahaha. That video is great. What a bunch of insane, delusional, entitled, confused, morons.

Surely they’ll look back at that video and cringe until their eyes pop out.

The professor kept his mirth much better than I could if confronted by such hypocrisy and stupidity.

jam_mac_jam · 19-09-2019 5:21pm

DavidLyons_ wrote: »

Hahahaha. That video is great. What a bunch of insane, delusional, entitled, confused, morons.

Surely they’ll look back at that video and cringe until their eyes pop out.

The professor kept his mirth much better than I could if confronted by such hypocrisy and stupidity.

They are like five year olds. Disgraceful behavior by adults.

James Brown · 19-09-2019 5:24pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Says the user who posts more than anyone else in those threads, usually endorsing the nonsense view that fascists and nazis are taking over.

Pointed out groups people who are racist sure, or would you rather we ignored them?

Kermit.de.frog · 19-09-2019 5:26pm

peddlelies wrote: »

That's pretty sad tbh.

How are these people going to survive in the real world without their safe space?

suicide_circus · 19-09-2019 5:32pm

only a total arsehole would drag up someone doing blackface 20 years ago and use it to assault that person's career. Unfortunately for Justin, he is just that type of arsehole.

ceadaoin. · 19-09-2019 5:33pm

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

They are like five year olds. Disgraceful behavior by adults.

Exactly what I was thinking. That behaviour is on a level with my 7 year old child. What happened to those people that they think it's acceptable to go on like that? It's not just cringy but scary that these people are the future! How will they cope when they enter the real world I wonder.

Leader of country caught up in blackface controversy.

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