How is this thug allowed to roam free

knockers84

Only a matter of time before he kills someone.

https://extra.ie/2019/08/31/news/irish-news/one-of-irelands-most-dangerous-criminals-is-back-on-the-streets

thecretinhop

knockers84 wrote: »

Only a matter of time before he kills someone.

https://extra.ie/2019/08/31/news/irish-news/one-of-irelands-most-dangerous-criminals-is-back-on-the-streets

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Suckit

knockers84 wrote: »

Only a matter of time before he kills someone.

https://extra.ie/2019/08/31/news/irish-news/one-of-irelands-most-dangerous-criminals-is-back-on-the-streets

There are concerns among prison sources that the violent thug, whose release coincides with the Electric Picnic, which is taking place in nearby Stradbally, may celebrate his new-found freedom by going to the festival.
This year’s Electric Picnic is expected to attract an audience of 57,500 people over the course of the weekend.

A bloke with a knife got into the festival on Sunday, but the knife was taken from him.
There wasn't much reported about it but he was caught and brought to court today. The security at the festival were convinced this person was genuinely going to stab some people.

Deebles McBeebles

Nice mention for Electric Picnic at the end.

Potential-Monke

Because this is our justice system. Regardless of how violent or how much of a probability there is, they will be left out. He's been left out a year early from a 9 year sentence he got in 2011. With over 250 P19's, it's unfathomable to think he is getting early release... The sooner someone offs this scum the better. And yes, he's scum. Read the article and you will see why. Admitting he deliberately tried to go for organs on the second stabbing victim, and would have only 'his bird got in the way'. Jesus suffering christ he should be locked up for life or put down.

Thinkingaboutit

Maybe put into some sort of penal servitude where he'll break rocks for his food and be flogged if he has an attitude problem.

jam_mac_jam

Only six years for stabbing two people is amazingly low sentence considering the amount of previous convictions. Violent crime in this country needs much more serious sentencing.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Surely attacking prison officers are crimes in their own right, should be prosecuted in their own right, and should be sentenced in their own right.

I'm fairly liberal on most things. But a system that allows Larry Murphy walk free is rotten.

splinter65

This is now a “compassionate” progressive country where civil liberties people are one of a number of small groups who dictate how we approach “issues”.
Apparently prison doesn’t solve any problems at all and millions of €s need to be poured instead into investigating why he is the way he is and what the rest of us should do to change our behavior so as to not make him, and others like him, so angry.
Don’t forget, it’s society's fault that he’s the way he is, not his responsibility.
Forget about committing him to a psychiatric unit either.
Psychopaths have rights which trump yours.

James Brown

splinter65 wrote: »

This is now a “compassionate” progressive country where civil liberties people are one of a number of small groups who dictate how we approach “issues”.
Apparently prison doesn’t solve any problems at all and millions of €s need to be poured instead into investigating why he is the way he is and what the rest of us should do to change our behavior so as to not make him, and others like him, so angry.
Don’t forget, it’s society's fault that he’s the way he is, not his responsibility.
Forget about committing him to a psychiatric unit either.
Psychopaths have rights which trump yours.

I don't think the judiciary could be counted as progressive civil liberties people. There isn't some snowflake, SJW group or whatever Americanism the kids are using these days making laws and handing down sentencing.
This kind of propaganda lets the real culprits off the hook IMO.

TuringBot47

They should be electronically tagged at least the duration of their original sentence and subject to strict curfews and probation conditions.

splinter65

Matt Barrett wrote: »

I don't think the judiciary could be counted as progressive civil liberties people. There isn't some snowflake, SJW group or whatever Americanism the kids are using these days making laws and handing down sentencing.
This kind of propaganda lets the real culprits off the hook IMO.

There are no minimum sentences here and the judiciary are left to try and follow “guidelines” and are left looking at precedents when it comes to sentencing.
Then prisoners are regularly granted bail over and over and over and over again despite being on suspended sentences already being out on bail and having LITERALLY hundreds of previous convictions, because their solicitor stands up and pleads their case, 100% of the time citing disadvantaged childhood and addictions etc.
Again, not the solicitors fault, just doing their job.
Why is it like this? Why are there no minimum sentences? How can people be granted bail? Why is this dangerous man wandering around?

splinter65

Matt Barrett wrote: »

I don't think the judiciary could be counted as progressive civil liberties people. There isn't some snowflake, SJW group or whatever Americanism the kids are using these days making laws and handing down sentencing.
This kind of propaganda lets the real culprits off the hook IMO.

BTW who is the “real culprit” in this case?!?

JohnMc1

TuringBot47 wrote: »

They should be electronically tagged at least the duration of their original sentence and subject to strict curfews and probation conditions.

We should go full Suicide Squad on them and implant bombs in their necks.

JohnnyFlash

Clare Daly and Mick Wallace supported this guy in court during one of his many appearances. True story. The pair of drunken malcontents.

handlemaster

Probably just mis understood , sure it will all be grand

Blazer

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Clare Daly and Mick Wallace supported this guy in court during one of his many appearances. True story. The pair of drunken malcontents.

I’m sure Mick and Clare will pass their condolences onto his next victim’s family.
What a pair of *****.

Sonny noggs

Didn’t take long...

Sonny noggs

Blazer wrote: »

I’m sure Mick and Clare will pass their condolences onto his next victim’s family.
What a pair of *****.

I hear they are shacked up together in Brussels laughing at us.

gerrybbadd

Why is it every one of them have the same shítty fringe?

Sonny noggs

Surely this misunderstood lad can be rehabilitated?

Sonny noggs

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Why is it every one of them have the same shítty fringe?

Prison barber?

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Clare Daly and Mick Wallace supported this guy in court during one of his many appearances. True story. The pair of drunken malcontents.

Nothing wrong with being a drunken malcontent. Well, that's the story I tell myself anyway.

Doctors room ghost

His age is 18 in 2007 but he is “now though to be around 30”.
Top class journalism

splinter65

Blazer wrote: »

I’m sure Mick and Clare will pass their condolences onto his next victim’s family.
What a pair of *****.

They’ve got their plum jobs in the EU now. Far far far away from any of the consequences of helping this thug to get his rights and entitlements.

Boggles

splinter65 wrote: »

They’ve got their plum jobs in the EU now. Far far far away from any of the consequences of helping this thug to get his rights and entitlements.

Do you think they have both bought houses in Brussels and moved there permanently?

splinter65

Boggles wrote: »

Do you think they have both bought houses in Brussels and moved there permanently?

Who cares? They’re not here. They’re done now with having to deal with the likes of this thugs mother/girlfriend turning up at one of their clinics complaining that poor Johnny is in prison and isn’t getting his rights.
They’re wandering around Brussels 4 days a week putting the minimum amount of time in turning up for committee meetings about wether or not a Cornish pasty can be called a Cornish pasty if it wasn’t made in Cornwall.
Paul Murphy TD claimed over €1 million on expenses when he was there.

Eric Cartman

This is why we need the death penalty.

Boggles

splinter65 wrote: »

Who cares?

You do obviously.

splinter65 wrote: »

They’re done now with having to deal with the likes of this thugs mother/girlfriend turning up at one of their clinics complaining that poor Johnny is in prison and isn’t getting his rights.

That's not what you said, is it?

Boggles

Eric Cartman wrote: »

This is why we need the death penalty.

You would have the death penalty for people who have not committed murder?

JohnMc1

Eric Cartman wrote: »

This is why we need the death penalty.

One more reason to vote National Party.

knipex

The the picture in the OP's link it says


"Leon Wright, 18yrs, of Droim na Coille Avenue, Ballyowen Lane, Lucan, Dublin, leaving court on 20th January 2017 after he was jailed for 13years with 4 suspended for a string of violent crimes including robbery, hijacking, escape from custody and assault."

How the FU** is he being released in 2019 after being sentenced to to 13 years in 2017 ??

Even with 4 years suspended that's 9 years and if the journalist has gotten his story even half correct there should have been no reduction to his sentence and the 4 years suspended term reactivated..

Boggles

JohnMc1 wrote: »

One more reason to vote National Party.

Nazi Party?

They would like a bit of a death I imagine.

Why would anyone who doesn't have an acute brain injury even consider voting for him and his shower of ne'er-do-wells?

mad muffin

Thinkingaboutit wrote: »

Maybe put into some sort of penal servitude where he'll break rocks for his food and be flogged if he has an attitude problem.

I’m sure there’s an uninhabited island off Ireland. They could send scum like that there. They could fend for themselves. Once a month a drone drops off a crate of supplies. No need for guards. They could have drones patrolling the perimeter. Kill on sight anyone attempting to escape.

WealthyB

Considering Fine Gael have always considered themselves "The Law & Order Party" this is somewhere they're really failing their core vote.

Minimum sentencing is a must. And a reclassification of crimes also - I couldn't believe when I read this part (emphasis mine)

In May 2014, Wright was jailed for six years for stabbing two men in random attacks in Dublin city centre in April 2013. Dublin Circuit Court heard that Wright’s first stabbing victim was Harisikashra Rajaysur, from Mauritius, while his second was Irishman Killian Byrne, who was walking with a female companion, Karolina Dryzaite.

The two stabbings took place minutes apart. At the time, Wright told gardaí that he was aiming for the organs of the second victim. He said he tried to kill the man, ‘but his bird got in the way’. Wright pleaded guilty to attempted robbery and assault of Mr Rajaysur on Grafton Street in April 2013. When he appeared in court for these offences, Wright was handcuffed and flanked by five prison staff in riot gear.

He admitted to the assault of Mr Byrne and Ms Dryzaite and to robbing a purse on nearby Chatham Street on the same date.

ASSAULT? He admitted he went for Mr Byrnes organs, and that he tried to kill him. He admitted to Attempted Murder, but instead he gets charged with Assault?? Assault is when you punch someone, kick them, push them, it's not when you try to stab their godddam organs and tell the cops you tried to kill him.

He should have been charged with 2 counts of attempted murder, and given 2 x 10 year minimum sentences to be run one after another, the idea that you can run 2 sentences at the same time effectively means, attempt murder on one, you may as well try kill 10 people as your sentence will be around the same.

This country....

Scuid Mhór

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

His age is 18 in 2007 but he is “now though to be around 30”.
Top class journalism

This is a fair thing to report, is it not? He could be 29, 30, 31, it's impossible to know without an exact birth date and perhaps the journalist was not privy to such facts.

splinter65

Boggles wrote: »

You do obviously.



That's not what you said, is it?

What did I say boggles?
No I don’t care where Wallace and Daly are living. Why would I care?

Eric Cartman

Boggles wrote: »

You would have the death penalty for people who have not committed murder?

if they had double digit previous convictions for violent crimes or sexual assault then yes I absolutely would. if you haven't learned your lesson in 10 times infront of a judge then theres not much to be said for keeping you alive.

RocketRaccoon

Boggles wrote: »

You would have the death penalty for people who have not committed murder?

Someone like this absolutely deserves death, anything else is a light sentence.

Overheal

Eric Cartman wrote: »

if they had double digit previous convictions for violent crimes or sexual assault then yes I absolutely would. if you haven't learned your lesson in 10 times infront of a judge then theres not much to be said for keeping you alive.

What about a less violent situation; say someone racks up dozens of warnings, cards and bans on this website. Should that user simply be permabanned?

Eric Cartman

Overheal wrote: »

What about a less violent situation; say someone racks up dozens of warnings, cards and bans on this website. Should that user simply be permabanned?

if they've racked them because opinions they hold aren't friendly to the advertisers that website is trying to attract or a liberal agenda , then absolutely not. :pac:

If it was for threatening other users or outright ruining forums / constant charter breaches then perhaps.

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

What about a less violent situation; say someone racks up dozens of warnings, cards and bans on this website. Should that user simply be permabanned?

A bizarre comparison. An innocuous online platform weighed up against a vicious savage.

TuringBot47

Boggles wrote: »

You would have the death penalty for people who have not committed murder?

Why weed a flower bed if the weeds haven't directly killed a flower.

You weed out malignancy for the good of everyone else.

It's an ironic thing that you need extreme measures to ensure liberalism.

No offence to Cork people, but could they not reopen Spike Island again and send all these Dublin knackers down there just as they did up until 2004?

It added immensely to the security of people in Dublin to see programmes on Today Tonight and RTÉ News where huge numbers of Dublin scumbags were on an island off Cork.

This country needs to pull together and it's about time Cork people got behind the capital once again as it tries to attract investment.

JohnMc1

Boggles wrote: »

Nazi Party?

They would like a bit of a death I imagine.

Why would anyone who doesn't have an acute brain injury even consider voting for him and his shower of ne'er-do-wells?

Want to know How I know you have nothing of value to contribute? You cried Nazi like a good little NPC.

tastyt

A family member has had to deal with this lowlife on a few occasions.

This guy is pure evil, filth like him should not be on our streets, he will kill someone, without doubt. It's only a matter of time. Attacks prison officers every chance he gets and refuses to engage in any therapy or so called rehabilitation in and just let him loose.

An excuse for a human being, I wonder what prick in the dept of Justice will apologise to the family of his next victim

punisher5112

Another scum bag free to do what he likes..... Seems a very big trend....

Solicitors will be fighting to be his legal aid....

Probably already has many business cards from them....

Overheal

TuringBot47 wrote: »

Why weed a flower bed if the weeds haven't directly killed a flower.

You weed out malignancy for the good of everyone else.

It's an ironic thing that you need extreme measures to ensure liberalism.

The Bible talked about this. It wasn’t good for the weed people on your analogy. Doesn’t seem like a ‘liberal’ thing.

Overheal

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A bizarre comparison. An innocuous online platform weighed up against a vicious savage.

Eric knows what I was talking about. Wasn’t trying to equivocate violence and trolling jfc

Richard Hillman

knipex wrote: »

The the picture in the OP's link it says


"Leon Wright, 18yrs, of Droim na Coille Avenue, Ballyowen Lane, Lucan, Dublin, leaving court on 20th January 2017 after he was jailed for 13years with 4 suspended for a string of violent crimes including robbery, hijacking, escape from custody and assault."

How the FU** is he being released in 2019 after being sentenced to to 13 years in 2017 ??

Even with 4 years suspended that's 9 years and if the journalist has gotten his story even half correct there should have been no reduction to his sentence and the 4 years suspended term reactivated..

They get an automatic 25% off the sentence for remission, otherwise known as Good Behaviour. Even though he committed 250 breaches of good behaviour in prison.

The term madness gets bandied about but that really is complete and utter madness.

TuringBot47

Overheal wrote: »

The Bible talked about this. It wasn’t good for the weed people on your analogy. Doesn’t seem like a ‘liberal’ thing.

Yeah... I don't really worry about what a 2000 year old pyramid scheme says in fairness.

The only way we're ever going to fix/control humanities selfish/lazy urges is through generous communism and annual mental health checks or intrusive personal privacy invasion/thought police to catch and "fix" disruptive individuals.

Maybe an all powerful AI would oversee everyone.