Women's football qualifying on RTE 2 - legit or sjw out of control?

paleoperson

BBC brought this in a while ago and RTE is now copying them - showing the women's football qualifying on main prime time tv now. Hardly anyone watches women's football. Sure if you push it and push it then you will get artificially more viewers of it, what about all the other fringe sports and activities they could be pushing instead?

Ireland vs Montenagro Women's qualifying - not even a playoff or critical game, a by-the-numbers qualifying game. Even Ireland vs Montenagro men's qualifying would be a borderline game. Montenagro has a population of 623,000 people, it's about the population of Cork county.

I could just change the channel, but the people of Ireland are paying to subsidize this. I think it's ridiculous.

Schwiiing

Quality on show is scour. 0 technical ability. Even the games in the World Cup with USA, France, Netherlands the supposed top teams were punctuated with technical errors. The fiver in to see it is robbery.

Roger Hassenforder

Schwiiing wrote: »

Quality on show is scour. 0 technical ability. Even the games in the World Cup with USA, France, Netherlands the supposed top teams were punctuated with technical errors. The fiver in to see it is robbery.

Even when the men are playing its scour

theyve lost most of the soccer to Virgin/SKy etc, theyre desperate for something to fill in the gaps between home and away, Simpsons and Big Bang Theory reruns

Omackeral

Sophie Mushy Tariff wrote: »

theyve lost most of the soccer to Virgin/SKy etc, theyre desperate for something to fill in the gaps between home and away, Simpsons and Big Bang Theory reruns

Shamrock Rovers played Bohemians in front of over 7,000 people last Friday night, among them were the President of Ireland Michael D. Higgins and the Republic of Ireland National Team manager Mick McCarthy. Meanwhile RTE decided to show a re-run of The Big Bang Theory. It's been nearly 100 days (98 I think) since our national broadcaster have shown a game from our league. Gobsh*tes.

Feisar

It’s pure SJW signaling IMHO.

Ipso

They could show re-runs of The Cassidys.

ArnoldJRimmer

There is a big push right now to promote the game, which I don't have an issue with. I rarely watch women's football as the quality is poor, but if it encourages more women to take up the game, then fair play.

As for the taxpayer/ TV licence payer subsidizing it, there are many worse things they p!ss money away on. Tubs and reality TV shows at the front and centre

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

I suppose to try and make it more popular, you need to air it. It might not work but not airing it achieves nothing. I’m pretty sure we pay for many ratings flops as taxpayers.

Silentcorner

I think we should see more women's sport on national tv, and encourage women to play sport....young women are being really damaged by social media, but the sports they have chosen, football, rugby and GAA are on tv all the time and the women's game is a considerable distance in terms of quality to which we are accustomed.

They could easily show Hockey or Basketball, sports we don't see to often and can be quiet entertaining.

SEPT 23 1989

No issue with the promotion of women playing a game of ball

Roger Hassenforder

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

No issue with the promotion of women playing a game of ball

Beach volleyball tho

Abel Ruiz

Silentcorner wrote: »

I think we should see more women's sport on national tv, and encourage women to play sport....young women are being really damaged by social media.

Are they being damaged by social media????
Many women that grew up alongside me in the 80s and 90s quit sport in their early teens.
It just wasn't cool and they all left football and gaa.

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

I think we should see more women's sport on national tv, and encourage women to play sport....young women are being really damaged by social media, but the sports they have chosen, football, rugby and GAA are on tv all the time and the women's game is a considerable distance in terms of quality to which we are accustomed.

They could easily show Hockey or Basketball, sports we don't see to often and can be quiet entertaining.

Agree with this, another sport is womens tennis, IMO a superior game to watch to men's tennis, which is all power serves.

Deebles McBeebles

Look, the quality is not good, yet. The final of the World Cup was presumably one of the best in terms of technical ability and it wasn't particularly entertaining. It was no worse than every MLS game I've watched though. All 20 outfield lads going for the ball like its a schoolyard game, mixed with terrible passes going astray. They can't all be as good as myself and Lionel Messi, I understand that.

Complaining about RTE showing any sport involving our country instead of a repeat of an old US sitcom and bringing SJW into it is absolute bollocks. If you plan to watch the next abomination involving our mens team, why not support the women too?

Fr_Dougal

Nothing wrong with it. Ultimately the viewership numbers/advertisers will decide if they keep showing the games.

Jimbob1977

Last week, the BBC put up a headline that Bronze and Van Dijk win the UEFA Player of the Year.

I was bemused. How did I not hear about this Bronze? It was the women's award!!

Score flashes are not distinguished by male/female any more.

If you click on "Wales vs Northern Ireland" tonight, it's the Euro 2021 woman's qualifiers. They now have equal prominence with the men's game.

ArnoldJRimmer

ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »

There is a big push right now to promote the game, which I don't have an issue with. I rarely watch women's football as the quality is poor, but if it encourages more women to take up the game, then fair play.

As for the taxpayer/ TV licence payer subsidizing it, there are many worse things they p!ss money away on. Tubs and reality TV shows at the front and centre

Spot on. Or importing soap operas from overseas. No quarrel with RTÉ screening women's football, if people find it objectionable there are other TV stations.

salmocab

Ipso wrote: »

They could show re-runs of The Cassidys.

I vomited a little when I read that

NIMAN

"Jimbob1977 wrote: »

If you click on "Wales vs Northern Ireland" tonight, it's the Euro 2021 woman's qualifiers. They now have equal prominence with the men's game.

This is catching me out all the time now on the news websites.

I see fixtures listed and immediately think "didn't know they were playing tonight", usually followed a few seconds later by "ah, must be a women's game".

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Who won ?

paleoperson

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Last week, the BBC put up a headline that Bronze and Van Dijk win the UEFA Player of the Year.

I was bemused. How did I not hear about this Bronze? It was the women's award!!

Score flashes are not distinguished by male/female any more.

If you click on "Wales vs Northern Ireland" tonight, it's the Euro 2021 woman's qualifiers. They now have equal prominence with the men's game.

It's both following the "making a distinction between males and females is a sin" commandment and also a classic case of bait and switch. Yeah, the name of it is "Euro 2021 Qualifier", no "Women's" in it to make it clear like they would if they were honestly trying to convey useful information that people would care about.

Another thing I saw recently was on sports scores on Sky News they had scores like "Swindon Town Women 1, QPR Women 0" putting the "Women" actually in the name of the team itself. This is actually making it more clear who is being referred to, but it just seemed very strange. Maybe there was a backlash against not making it clear so they came up with putting Women in the team name.

weldoninhio

Standard is awful. The national broadcaster shouldn’t be showing it. Also, women don’t watch sport in the main. It’s a very niche market. Why not show LOI or LSL, standard would be about 100x better.

Or even a dog chasing a ball around a field, that would only be about 20x better standard, but better to watch.

ThunbergsAreGo

weldoninhio wrote: »

Standard is awful. The national broadcaster shouldn’t be showing it. Also, women don’t watch sport in the main. It’s a very niche market. Why not show LOI or LSL, standard would be about 100x better.

Or even a dog chasing a ball around a field, that would only be about 20x better standard, but better to watch.

Because showing the highest standard game isn't the goal here. If it was we wouldn't show the male National team often.

It probably cost RTE nothing to buy the rights to and nothing is lost due to it. It's not an either or (though I agree their LOI coverage is poor)

ben.schlomo

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Look, the quality is not good, yet. The final of the World Cup was presumably one of the best in terms of technical ability and it wasn't particularly entertaining. It was no worse than every MLS game I've watched though. All 20 outfield lads going for the ball like its a schoolyard game, mixed with terrible passes going astray. They can't all be as good as myself and Lionel Messi, I understand that.

Complaining about RTE showing any sport involving our country instead of a repeat of an old US sitcom and bringing SJW into it is absolute bollocks. If you plan to watch the next abomination involving our mens team, why not support the women too?

You've obviously never actually watched an MLS game or else you don't understand football and how to analyse it. I've literally never seen a professional match where 20 players ran after the ball like it was a schoolyard.

Dr. Bre

Jayda Mealy Ginseng wrote: »

Who won ?

Both. Everyone wins

SharpshooterTom

I absolutely have no problem with the promotion of womens sport, the women's world cup was decent and I hope the sport grows, certainly I hope in future they are paid a lot more than the plumbers wages they currently get.

But its the way its promoted with elements of misandry and politiking is what can be irksome, case in point this nonsense article by the bbc (the stuff about LGBT rights is worthy but the rest of it, christ).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48742850

Deebles McBeebles

ben.schlomo wrote: »

You've obviously never actually watched an MLS game or else you don't understand football and how to analyse it. I've literally never seen a professional match where 20 players ran after the ball like it was a schoolyard.

I have and I do, B. My analysis was exaggerated for effect. Not all that exaggerated though. MLS is a load of sh*t, tbf.

Church on Tuesday

I'd sooner watch that than **** like the LLS or Dancing with the RTÉ Canteen.

I have no interest in the women's game but plenty women play it and young girls too, the success of the women's WC means there's clearly some audience for it.

paleoperson

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I'd sooner watch that than **** like the LLS or Dancing with the RTCanteen.

I have no interest in the women's game but plenty women play it and young girls too, the success of the women's WC means there's clearly some audience for it.

What about the success of the local 45 drive? Does that mean it should be on a primetime slot on national tv?

Edgware

Of course de Irish are the best supporters in de Wuuuuruld

Balmed Out

While Id be a lot more interested in Ireland against Germany or the Ukraine Im in favour of it. Sure its a bit of a Waynes World approach but I have a three year old girl who despite every effort thinks football is for boys so Im delighted to cheer on the ladies and hope she notices.
What I hate is female friends who happily complain about equal pay between the genders in sport and then travel to view mens games or watch it on the tv but never the womens. Hopefully having womens sport on tv more regularly will eventually normalise an interest in it. I think womens Gaa and basketball are particularly entertaining.

Silentcorner

Balmed Out wrote: »

While Id be a lot more interested in Ireland against Germany or the Ukraine Im in favour of it. Sure its a bit of a Waynes World approach but I have a three year old girl who despite every effort thinks football is for boys so Im delighted to cheer on the ladies and hope she notices.
What I hate is female friends who happily complain about equal pay between the genders in sport and then travel to view mens games or watch it on the tv but never the womens. Hopefully having womens sport on tv more regularly will eventually normalise an interest in it. I think womens Gaa and basketball are particularly entertaining.

What is particularly cute is letting a feminist talk about a topic she clearly hasn't an iota of understanding of...it's like watching a child struggling to walk...you wanna help but you know you can't!!!

Church on Tuesday

paleoperson wrote: »

What about the success of the local 45 drive? Does that mean it should be on a primetime slot on national tv?

Nobody is forcing you to watch it.

weldoninhio

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Nobodies forcing you to watch it.

But they are forcing us to pay for it.

ILoveYourVibes

Men's football started this mess. Don't blame women because football is boring you brought this on yourselves. And quite frankly its revenge for all the mind numbing time devoted to football on tv.

I am not even joking.

I mean between the salary of the players their behavior to you the fans etc football has lost it plus why is it so slow?

And now you can be bored by women and invaded by sjw watching and joing you at all the games. Enjoy.

SharpshooterTom

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I have no interest in the women's game but plenty women play it and young girls too, the success of the women's WC means there's clearly some audience for it.

The majority of the TV audience were actually men, probably because there was nothing else on and it was a bit of footy during the summer.

But the real challenge from here is whether or not the average attendences improve in the domestic leagues, 2,000 average attendance for the womens league is not going to cut it.

Church on Tuesday

weldoninhio wrote: »

But they are forcing us to pay for it.

And? RTÉ 'force' people to pay for other programming stuff too, like RTÉ Player and whoever Lucy Kennedy wants to arse about with this week. Oh and any amount of repeats of Fr. Ted which would usually have this slot.

It's not the like women's football is on every week.

Don't like it? change the channel or more to the point drop the TV.

wakka12

There is hardly any representation of women in sports . Whats wrong with it, its hardly a bad thing, even if it is being pushed out there and not necessarily being 'asked' for

kildare lad

I don't know how they think that putting women's football on will encourage more women to play football . It all starts with the parents. They should be bringing their kids, be it boys or girls to football or any sport to get them interested in it at a young age. I can't imagine to many women who are 18 or over, tuning in to watch womens football and then deciding to join a team . It's a bit late at that stage .

ben.schlomo

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

ben.schlomo wrote: »

You've obviously never actually watched an MLS game or else you don't understand football and how to analyse it. I've literally never seen a professional match where 20 players ran after the ball like it was a schoolyard.

I have and I do, B. My analysis was exaggerated for effect. Not all that exaggerated though. MLS is a load of sh*t, tbf.

Tbh it isn't.

padd b1975

Edgware wrote: »

Of course de Irish are the best supporters in de Wuuuuruld

How many rocked up to this game?

lertsnim

Omackeral wrote: »

Shamrock Rovers played Bohemians in front of over 7,000 people last Friday night, among them were the President of Ireland Michael D. Higgins and the Republic of Ireland National Team manager Mick McCarthy. Meanwhile RTE decided to show a re-run of The Big Bang Theory. It's been nearly 100 days (98 I think) since our national broadcaster have shown a game from our league. Gobsh*tes.

Turn your scorn to the gob****es who sold them the rights.

andekwarhola

Anytime I hear 'quality' bemoaned in these threads, I presume it's the kind of expert that loudly infests every pub or schoolkid football touchline in the country: the usual experts that denigrate womens international football or league of ireland from the heights of their stint in DDSL D1 20 years ago that somehow cruelly eluded the attention of scouts because of a knee injury or bad luck.

Mad_maxx

paleoperson wrote: »

BBC brought this in a while ago and RTE is now copying them - showing the women's football qualifying on main prime time tv now. Hardly anyone watches women's football. Sure if you push it and push it then you will get artificially more viewers of it, what about all the other fringe sports and activities they could be pushing instead?

Ireland vs Montenagro Women's qualifying - not even a playoff or critical game, a by-the-numbers qualifying game. Even Ireland vs Montenagro men's qualifying would be a borderline game. Montenagro has a population of 623,000 people, it's about the population of Cork county.

I could just change the channel, but the people of Ireland are paying to subsidize this. I think it's ridiculous.

Showing the women's world Cup in it's entirety was a scandalous waste of money

Omackeral

sugarman wrote: »

Yet in their our back garden, there are 4 LOI Premier Division clubs within a 10km radius of their studio where the games cost them virtually nothing and they cover sweet **** all. Their paltry 30 minute highlights show is a mess too. Eir sports have put them to shame this season showing over 30 matches to their 4 or 5.

FAI Cup Quarter Finals down for decision this weekend. Are RTE broadcasting any of them? Are they what! Better show Young Sheldon* again though...


This is legitimately what they show btw, a fcuking spin-off prequel to the Big Bang Theory.

osarusan

No problem with it, it's doing something for Irish sport and that alone means its more within the mandate of a public broadcaster than some syndicated US or UK comedy or drama.

More Irish sport, men and women, at all levels please.

Raconteuse

Feisar wrote: »

It’s pure SJW signaling IMHO.

Is the above poking fun at the terms virtue signalling and sjw?

andekwarhola

weldoninhio wrote: »

But they are forcing us to pay for it.

To be fair, it's the public broadcaster. Not everything should be about the bottom line or common demominator.

Be careful what you wish for.

Raconteuse

I've no interest in it, and most of those I know who took an interest in it during the summer were men. I appreciate it's a sport that men are gonna be better at, and calls for equal pay in the US is just laughable.

But there's always a few men who get so whiny about anything promoting women - I don't mean feminism, which can be absolutely toxic. But just stuff like this - a sport, a beneficial outlet in so many ways. The national broadcaster should be helping foster an interest. My six-year-old niece absolutely loves playing football. Nurturing this - oh noez!

Don't be such snowflakes.

Shur individual members of the public have to pay for plenty of stuff they don't want to watch.

Canis Lupus

As if there wasn't enough kickball on tv as it was