UFC Fight Night Events Thread - Spoilers Within

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120890427#Comment_120890427

For arguments sake even if i agree with you( i donlt ) ,we can all still be 100% certain Molly had more of chance surviving right there than she did by rolling,

No matter what we both say in the end the original assessment still stand true that Molly literally rolled into the finish ,

For the record i think if Molly stay put goes to her knees & moves her knees towards the cage ,its next to impossible to be finished as he Juilja doesn't have room to change position .

We will never know for sure but you can bet your house her coach has already told her not to roll in that position again ,

barryribs

The roll is literally the least of the issues in that fight. After the shot doesn't come, she over swings with a right hand, she defends the initial trip well but is so far towards the middle of the octagon that the second phase of the takedown is successful.

She immediately gives up her back, and allows both hooks in without any resistance. Stoliarenko then moves to McCanns left side and McCann rolls away from it to give up her back again. She is defending by holding Stoliarenko's left wrist with her left arm.

From here Stoliarenko moves back towards McCann's left arm and hooks it through with her right arm. She has the chance here to maintain full guard and minimise any risk of the arm bar. Stoliarenko uses her toes in the fence to roll from her shoulders to her side and McCann's head lifts off the mat allowing Stoliarenko to put her right leg across her face.

There is 25 seconds between the punch and the point above where she has both legs across McCann's body & face. I would take that bet and say Rimmer or whoever is coaching her grappling, is focusing on the half dozen mistakes made prior so that she doesn't end up in that position.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120890623#Comment_120890623

The original assessment definitely does not stand true imo. You said that she was safe if she stayed there, couldn't be finished, and was only finished because she rolled. I'm saying that every part of that is incorrect. It's fine if we don't agree. But disagreeing doesn't mean it was therefore 100% correct.

She was finished regardless of the roll, as I outlined above. I even disagree that she had more change of surviving by staying there. There was 3 mins left, she had 0% chance unless she escaped. You are still ignoring the fact that the roll wasn't just some hail mary move, it was forced by the internal rotation pressure on the shoulder. I highly doubt that her coach has focus on or even cared about the roll. The issues are that she allowed her back to be taken and her arm to be attacked. Those that the issues.

If we're going to go down hypotheticals of what she could have done. She needed to connect her hands and defend, or ideally prevent it from being separated to begin with. The roll was executed terribly obviously. But it is possible to roll and escape, you need to beat the legs. It's not a high percentage escape. A better option would be to try cartwheel over - but the a lot easier in space without the cage in the way.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120892526#Comment_120892526

Any option or chance she had however slim ended with the roll, There fore there for she rolled inot the submission ,

I don't think Stoliarenko can finish from that position without readjusting things & there is the chance to escape,

Has Molly herself spoke about the finish ?

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120894904#Comment_120894904

And I think she can finish from there. It’s about extending the hips not arching the back. Agree to disagree.

Haven’t heard Molly say anything about it. But to be completely honest, she’s hard to listen to so I haven’t checked out any interviews.

The Nal

Molly is dropping down to SW

https://www.instagram.com/p/CvFjz24sAzT/?hl=en

It won't take Iasmin Lucindo long to scoot up those strawweight rankings.

Only 21...definitely a future champ.

All three judges gave that to Cub Swanson??????

Even Cub seems bemused haha.

Homelander

Feel kinda bad for Chris Daukaus. Quit his job as a police officer and gets KO'd badly 4 fights in a row in awful performances.

Where does he go from here. He did get fed pretty much straight killers but it's shown he's clearly not gonna ever be competitive around the rankings in either weight class.

He has decent hands but almost nothing else for the higher levels of competition. He did look physically a lot better at LHW.

Does he have any fights left on his contract? They should give him someone like Tanner Boser or St Preux if he does, then see what's what.

Rjd2

Zombie went out banging. 😍

What a fun career and that entrance! Hope he does well in retirement.

shrapnel222

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121030855#Comment_121030855

proper chills also at his exit to zombie. pure class that man and some phenomenal fights!

The Nal

Zombie still swinging on the way down!

hawaii501

Perfect fight for him to retire. Was hurting Max as well.

Unbelievable entrance and walkout as well

So let me make sure I have everything right...

Over three years ago, at the age of 24, Rhys McKee got pistol-whipped by Chimaev, after Chimaev had fought ten days earlier.

McKee said he was caught on short notice and vowed he'd be back and avenge the loss...

2023, at the age of 27, and he's still with that f*cking waster Rodney Marsh...and has just lost to a fella 9-3.

Quite possible early onset CTE.

Rjd2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061199#Comment_121061199

tbf losing to khamzat is not something I would bury someone over that dude is a killer, but yeah while his opponent was not a bum, nonetheless it was a relatively kind return to the company. He won't make it unfortunately.

I see Loughran also lost, but tbf it was against a replacement opponent who from betting odds was clearly superior to his initial opponent! Loughran was 1/3 against te first dude he was meant to fight, but outsider against this chap.Its not ideal but needs another look before he is written off.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121062045#Comment_121062045

Oh, absolutely, losing to Chimaev is nothing to be ashamed about but McKee also lost his second fight UFC fight a couple of months later to go 0-2 and he gets cut.

That was three years ago.

Surely at that point you think "That was a humbling experience but I'm 24, I'm gonna learn from it, it's time for a change of scenery and to go train with better sparring partners." I don't see how you can experience the standard of the UFC and not realise you need a new gym immediately.

At least Loughran had the sense to go to Kaobon.

Ian Garry had the most sense and went to America.

ctrl-alt-delete

Adesanya Stricken!

Spent the whole fight on the back foot and Strickland takes the title unanimously.

barryribs

This is some take. At the time two judges had it 30-27 and one had it 30-26.

Diego Lopes is a menace.

Still Ill

Wow! Wasn't expecting that!

These fights are flying in!

hawaii501

He is the real deal, so quick and powerful. Delighted for him.

He is the undisputed champ, never mind the original fight!!

He has a chin anyway, Pavlovich caught him with a wrecking ball and he shook it off.

Still Ill

What the **** was that stoppage?

hawaii501

He was hurt but should have waited for a couple of shots on the ground.

Still Ill

I think he kinda fell/rolled to get away from the elbows. Think we needed to see how things ended up after the scramble. He was hurt for sure, but particularly for a title fight that was way too early.

Edit: Ok, he he had no problem with it himself. Fair enough. Classy interview

Mindless carry on from Jiri.

He'd want to f*ck up the Himalayas and live with monks for a year or two, it might calm him down. Constantly rushed in like a fella just plucked outta the local.

Homelander

Interesting enough Alex was caught by an almost identical hook by Izzy in their last fight. He was pushing forward and got clocked with a short hook that flattened him.

Decent main card. All KOs.

rob316

Said for a long time, Aspinall is a future champ. Delighted for him.

Jones is probably out till this time next year so what happens next at HW? Stipe probably only got one fight left in him so he'll wait for Jones I think.

The Nal

Serious speed from Aspinall. Great finish.

Rjd2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121362041#Comment_121362041

I think Tom will chill and see what Jon is planning to do next year, if he decides to fight Tom on his return happy days all round, but if it is Stipe then retirement then he will have to go with Gane or Almeida as I see no other alternatives.

Good chance Tom won't fight for a long time sadly though while he waits to see what Jon wants to do on his return sadly.

The Nal

Hehehe

ctrl-alt-delete

Josh Emmett wins with more or less the first significant strike of the fight, and what a punch it was.

Utopia Parkway

Was never a big Tony Ferguson fan but sad to see how incredibly washed he is. Even glancing blows look like knocking him out. Chin completely gone.

ctrl-alt-delete

Not really a great fight for me that one. Both just looked off the pace.

Pimblett looked out on his feet at the start of round 3 but Ferguson didn't seem to try too much to get back to his feet despite his corner continually calling for it.

theteal

Never a Colby fan but he was exceptionally poor in that. Edwards, while boring, managed that fight with ease. Even threw in some wrestling to show Colby up some more. Just a stronger and better fighter, it would have been nice to see him push to do some proper damage but he was so far ahead, why risk it

Rjd2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121505003#Comment_121505003

Where can Paddy go from here? He or anyone serious should be beating Tony with much less fuss IMO.

Main event was tedious, Colby can **** off now ideally feed him to Garry or Shavkat.

The Josh Emmett KO Wow. We may not see Bryce for a long time.

Carcharodon

Not the best ppv night but not too bad, glad Ferguson didn’t get embarrassed but Paddy looks very average in my opinion, don’t think he has the potential to be a champion.

Pantoja fight was decent but flyweights nearly always deliver

Delighted Edwards won and it was very comfortable, hopefully Colby just goes away and he needs to win a lot of fights to get another shot, he is just not a good person and no way on earth he deserved this fight based on the past few years, I get the marketing and all that but come on, he has been inactive. It really annoyed me when Joe Rohan was saying that it wasn’t a good look for him to finish the fight o the ground like that, gtf out of here, he dominated that fight, yea he didn’t finish hm but he had to be composed and not make a silly mistake out of anger from the drama about what Colby said, he needs a bit more respect, not saying he is amazing but he is getting it done.

eagle eye

Just watched it now.

Leon, unsurprisingly, dominated Covington. Covington hasn't beaten anybody of note that wasn't on the skid.

Masvidal was imo pretty ordinary and coming off two losses to Usman. Woodley was coming off two losses and was a shadow of the fighter he had been. Robbie Lawler was a busted flush and coming off a few loses when they met. RDA was way past his best.

For me he is one of the most overrated fighters ever.

Anyway, no surprise to see Wonderboy stopped.

Pantoja was far too good for Royval.

Brutal knockout by Josh Emmett. You'd be worried for Bryce Mitchell after what happened.

I don't know how the Menifield and Aldana fights went to decisions.

Three contenders for fight if the night, I've no idea which one got it, probably co-main got it but for me I thought Aldana v Rosa was the best.

I hope Du Plessis flatlines Strickland later.

EagererBeaver

Decent fight, not great. 48-47 either way is fine but I thought Strickland edged it.

RoyalCelt

Unlucky for him but the takedowns hurt Strickland and he should have opened up a little more at certain points. Good fight either way. Lots of options for the division now.

I had it 48-47 to Du Plessis.

I had Strickland winning the first and last round and DDP winning the middle rounds.

Strickland was the more efficient striker but Du Plessis pushed the pace and got some takedowns (albeit did nothing with them).

callaway92

Jesus. Gone be the days of a multi-page specific event thread.

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121646824#Comment_121646824

A really weak PP card

callaway92

Ya it was garbage. Very rare a full main card can be stacked anymore mind you. Never mind including the prelims in that!

Speaking of bad, how bad is that women's bantamweight division?

2024 and Raquel Pennington is the champion...

I was looking at the current rankings and there's **** all there. If I was one of the 125ers I'd be jumping up and grabbing a belt. The loser of Grasso vs. Shevchenko rematch should jump up. I was gonna say Erin Blanchfield should forget about 125 and jump up and call Pennington out but I see she has tasty looking fight against Fiorot in March.

EagererBeaver

The takedowns achieved absolutely nothing. He scored what, 6 or 7 of them and there might have been one strike (a very tired looking and in no way impactful knee to the thigh) as a result of them?

Otagepingi

I thought DDP won 2, 3 and 4.

Solid fight from both, with the SA fighter having success in mixing things up against the boxer.

EagererBeaver

I gave the 5th to Strickland. Was a bit surprised about DDP playing to the crowd about those final two rounds as while he clearly won the 4th, I thought Strickland clearly took the 5th. Not easily, but clearly. Too many wild overhands from DDP knackered him.

hawaii501

Yeah I thought it was a good fight and DDP just about edged it winning rounds 2-4 but would have had no complaints of Strickland got the verdict. I think the takedown probably edged it for DDP even though he did nothing with them. I think one of them he got caught with an elbow to the already swollen eye.

Didnt watch any of the rest of the card and won'tbother either.

Saw a video of Strickland earlier in the week and he was complaining about next 3 PPV cards all being much better so he'll get less PPV points. I'd say he's definitely right on that :)