January 2020 Recruitment.

Si_zx10r

There are written exercises though. You do 3 role plays and then do a report on them followed by a short retest of IST.

NeeNaw21

Yeah I know; i was sub 100 on the ML for 1810 was also fast tracked. Learning the competencies will not help. Basically just be a decent human being and be empathetic. Been there done that, got the t shirt and doing the job now.

I can't go into detail about the written exercises due to the NDA i signed. But they aren't what you think they are going by has been said on here of late.

Si_zx10r

NeeNaw21 wrote: »

Yeah I know; i was sub 100 on the ML for 1810 was also fast tracked. Learning the competencies will not help. Basically just be a decent human being and be empathetic. Been there done that, got the t shirt and doing the job now.

I can't go into detail about the written exercises due to the NDA i signed. But they aren't what you think they are going by has been said on here of late.

So you work as a psni officer now? I was only pointing out the written part in the assessment centre

NeeNaw21

Yes, i am indeed. Like i said the written exercises aren't something that requires you to know the core competencies

penutzimes

NeeNaw21 wrote: »

Yes, i am indeed. Like i said the written exercises aren't something that requires you to know the core competencies

How does the actual real job compare to what you thought the job was going to be like when you first applied?

vhue30gnyzfj4b

Hi folks, long time lurker. Past the ist a few weeks back and really excited for the rest of the process. Just a question on tattoos, I have two sleeves that can be covered up with a shirt. A few of my friends who are already in said to not worry but just checking if anyone would know from past experiences etc

NeeNaw21

You can wear short sleeves no problem no need to cover them up

NeeNaw21

penutzimes wrote: »

How does the actual real job compare to what you thought the job was going to be like when you first applied?

i have friends and family in the police so not really much different than I thought.

vhue30gnyzfj4b

NeeNaw21 wrote: »

You can wear short sleeves no problem no need to cover them up

Aw happy days, that’s a relief. Do you think they’ve relaxed their policy over the years ? Read through a few other threads last night and that got me panicking lol. Thanks for your response!

Si_zx10r

As long as your tattoos are not offensive, policital etc should be fine

vhue30gnyzfj4b

Definitely nothing political or offensive! I think I was just worrying on size etc and having both arms done. The other thing I was worried about was I have my grandparents surname on me (different surname to mine) so I don't think that would conceal my identity ? Probably just overthinking it!

Si_zx10r

Anyone know how long the window was for people to re upload qualifications?

Yukuza2008

Si_zx10r wrote: »

Anyone know how long the window was for people to re upload qualifications?

21st May

Si_zx10r

Cheers, that's a fair amount of time to get sorted. I thought it was going to be a much smaller window. Hopefully by then there will be more direction on lockdown exit plan. Supposedly boris will be giving info on this next week

KN1231999

hopefully with lock down measures being planned to be eased, we can look at some AC dates soon.

ams1707

Wanted to wish each and every one of you every success in this campaign. It will be worth it in the end. Expect bumps on the road. Have the patience of a Saint and youl get there. I speak from experience. Currently appointable and in the 1810 campaign.

Cophopeful

NeeNaw21 wrote: »

Yeah I know; i was sub 100 on the ML for 1810 was also fast tracked. Learning the competencies will not help. Basically just be a decent human being and be empathetic. Been there done that, got the t shirt and doing the job now.

I can't go into detail about the written exercises due to the NDA i signed. But they aren't what you think they are going by has been said on here of late.

Nonsense. The core competencies are very important. Being cop doesn't qualify you to understand the grading criteria.

The candidate should consider attending one of the tutorials offered. The staff there will talk you though the the grading criteria.

NeeNaw21

Cophopeful wrote: »

Nonsense. The core competencies are very important. Being cop doesn't qualify you to understand the grading criteria.

The candidate should consider attending one of the tutorials offered. The staff there will talk you though the the grading criteria.

Yeah I did the coaching... competencies never expressly mentioned nor studied. You should already have the qualities expressed if you don't well... maybe don't join.

The assessment centre is about practical application of said competencies.

Fairness
Courtesy
Respect
Professionalism

Etc

The only thing the AC is doing is trying to see if you can express these practically. And as they are also the qualities of a decent human being you don't have to sit and learn them

NeeNaw21

Never once did I say the competencies weren't important just stated that sitting and learning them is a bit of a red herring

MUFC1

I have to agree with the comments above with NeeNaw21, I have also past the AC, if you have to try and learn the competencies I believe you will struggle, again only my opinion, but take all the support and advice you can get.

Si_zx10r

Hopefully come sunday there will be a strategy in place for relaxing the lockdown rules and psni start planning for a/c dates. Hopefully they will be started come june 🤞 also, fingers crossed hairdressers are open before a/c lol starting to look a bit messy 😂

vhue30gnyzfj4b

Si_zx10r wrote: »

Hopefully come sunday there will be a strategy in place for relaxing the lockdown rules and psni start planning for a/c dates. Hopefully they will be started come june 🤞 also, fingers crossed hairdressers are open before a/c lol starting to look a bit messy 😂

How are you preparing for it ? I’ve watched a few videos etc but I’ve too much time on my hands and feel I can’t do much more until lockdown is lifted lol

Flash_93

Is there any indication as to how many applicants have been successful at ist and awaiting Assessment Centre? Considering almost 7000 of us applied,

Si_zx10r

I worked it out statistically going on a 3 year average, roughly 1600, cant remember exact figure I got but around that will turn up for a/c stage lol a number of people through wont actually turn up to a/c. I was bored and interested to know roughly how many are left aswell 😂 just over 1000 usually get on merit list so do a decent job and you should get through ok. I havent been thinking about it too much, once lockdown is relaxed going to draft up a number of police scenarios and go through them with my partner and get her to play witness/victim etc to practice key questions for painting a picture of the incidents and reporting.

Flash_93

Si_zx10r wrote: »

I worked it out statistically going on a 3 year average, roughly 1600, cant remember exact figure I got but around that will turn up for a/c stage lol a number of people through wont actually turn up to a/c. I was bored and interested to know roughly how many are left aswell 😂 just over 1000 usually get on merit list so do a decent job and you should get through ok. I havent been thinking about it too much, once lockdown is relaxed going to draft up a number of police scenarios and go through them with my partner and get her to play witness/victim etc to practice key questions for painting a picture of the incidents and reporting.

Thanks for that! Sounds promising. I agree numbers will reduce with educational requirements and no-shows also. It's the not knowing what or when it will happen next is keeping me awake 😂. Still statistically those figures and 600 positions available sounds positive

NornIron74

Flash_93 wrote: »

Is there any indication as to how many applicants have been successful at ist and awaiting Assessment Centre? Considering almost 7000 of us applied,

To give you an idea on figures, for the 1810 campaign 2433 got invited to AC with 1550 attending and 1053 passing the AC and making it on to the merit list.

NeeNaw21

Avoid anything produced by Richard McMunn from How2become. And don't bother looking at the videos for the GB forces ACs

vhue30gnyzfj4b

NeeNaw21 wrote: »

Avoid anything produced by Richard McMunn from How2become. And don't bother looking at the videos for the GB forces ACs

Unfortunately made the mistake of buying his how2become book a year ago so I know what you mean. He’s just replaced any other forces name with psni and fired it out for sale. Crazy how inaccurate it is

KN1231999

the IST is in my opinion, the hardest part. i can safely say at least 4500+ applicants were cut by it this year

Si_zx10r

KN1231999 wrote: »

the IST is in my opinion, the hardest part. i can safely say at least 4500+ applicants were cut by it this year

if you take that number along with the number that didnt bother actually doing followed by the number that dont turn up to assessment centre, everyones chances are good. My friend in psni said, apply common sense and you will be fine, so many people going in a try to come across as the finished article which isn't what they are looking for. the pass rate for Assessment centre is higher than the IST so you are probably right in what you are saying.

KN1231999

Si_zx10r wrote: »

if you take that number along with the number that didnt bother actually doing followed by the number that dont turn up to assessment centre, everyones chances are good. My friend in psni said, apply common sense and you will be fine, so many people going in a try to come across as the finished article which isn't what they are looking for. the pass rate for Assessment centre is higher than the IST so you are probably right in what you are saying.

ive fell short of the assessment centre last time in the 1710 recruitment by a few marks, although i know where i messed up on and ready this time.
in my opinion theres a level of luck when doing the IST, to a degree anyway.

CoAntrim24

Just a quick questions folks,

So I have heard the PSNI are looking to appoint 600 individuals, however there are still people who are on the merit list from the last recruitment campaign, I have read people being 500 on the merit list and then others around 1000 on the merit list (previous campaign)

Will the PSNI look to exhaust those lists before seeing to appoint any of those who apply during this recruitment process? Therefore it’s not 600 they are looking to appoint but could be way less.

If this is confusing I apologise, hope everyone is keeping safe in the meantime.

CoAntrim24

Just a quick questions folks,

So I have heard the PSNI are looking to appoint 600 individuals, however there are still people who are on the merit list from the last recruitment campaign, I have read people being 500 on the merit list and then others around 1000 on the merit list (previous campaign)

Will the PSNI look to exhaust those lists before seeing to appoint any of those who apply during this recruitment process? Therefore it’s not 600 they are looking to appoint but could be way less.

If this is confusing I apologise, hope everyone is keeping safe in the meantime.

Gonzo94

I think the 600 number applies to the 2020 campaign.

They should exhaust the previous merit list or be near to exhausting it before anyone from the 2020 is appointable. That's how it usually goes. some 2020 fast trackers (those do extremely well at the ac) will possibly be in classes with those who are at the very end of the 2018 merit list.

Someone else on here might be better informed to tell you.

CoAntrim24

Gonzo94 wrote: »

I think the 600 number applies to the 2020 campaign.

They should exhaust the previous merit list or be near to exhausting it before anyone from the 2020 is appointable. That's how it usually goes. some 2020 fast trackers (those do extremely well at the ac) will possibly be in classes with those who are at the very end of the 2018 merit list.

Someone else on here might be better informed to tell you.

Thanks for the reply mate, so essentially they won’t be included in the 600 spaces that they have available now? This recruitment drive is completely new and the last recruitment process isn’t included in the numbers for this one?

Again sorry if I come across as confusing.

Si_zx10r

Theres information under psni recruitment news. Theres less than 350 ppl still on 2018 merit list. Fair number of people stumble at the psni managed stages, some pull out and some fail at one of the 5 final stages. Theres still work to do if you get on merit list, nothing is certain until you have an offer in your hand.

Gonzo94

CoAntrim24 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply mate, so essentially they won’t be included in the 600 spaces that they have available now? This recruitment drive is completely new and the last recruitment process isn’t included in the numbers for this one?

Again sorry if I come across as confusing.

Well I've read in the 2020 campaign news articles that they are looking 600 recruits from that campaign. So Ive just assumed from reading that. I could be wrong though and there might be others on here that will be able to inform you better than I can.

As Si_zx10r said anyone can fail at any stage. So if you get on the merit list just remember that the final number won't be 1053 (or whatever 2020 merit list will be) come the end of it. Stay focused on the next hurdle. It can be a long process so prepare yourself for that. I'm on the 2018 merit list and not yet appointable.

The IST in my opinion is the hardest test. There's a great deal of luck involved in that as someone else has said. At the assessment centre I was just myself and showed empathy and asked a load of questions. When I asked serving officers for tips that's the two things they told me lol. You'll be grand. Good luck!

NeeNaw21

The "600 recruits" number is the an arbitrary number derived from the need to have a number to use for the tender process.

And considering that merit lists are live longer than 1 finanicial year i wouldn't think about it as only "600" people if that makes sense.

They will take from the merit lists until they run outta money

KN1231999

i would not worry about the numbers of how many people they take in, as far as im aware most of the recent campaigns they have exhausted the lists, int was only in the older recruitment processes, people of lower score got the "dear johns" and binned

Si_zx10r

Anyone went on one of these A/C courses? are they worth doing and any idea of the cost to attend one?

NeeNaw21

Si_zx10r wrote: »

Anyone went on one of these A/C courses? are they worth doing and any idea of the cost to attend one?

they are great, pricey though PM me for the one to avoid

NornIron74

Si_zx10r wrote: »

Anyone went on one of these A/C courses? are they worth doing and any idea of the cost to attend one?

I went on one, it cost £150 but it was worth every penny as I passed.

Si_zx10r

NornIron74 wrote: »

I went on one, it cost £150 but it was worth every penny as I passed.

Think I'll do the same, will be worth it in the long run

Yukuza2008

Could anybody that’s attended one of the AC course give me a PM with which one to attend please?!

Andimaul

Yukuza2008 wrote: »

Could anybody that’s attended one of the AC course give me a PM with which one to attend please?!

If someone could extend me the same courtesy I would be extremely grateful.

Thanks in advance.

Robbie200490

Hey is anyone able to send me a PM about what courses are the best to take? I'm signed up to one at the minute, but if there is other ones I'd consider doing them too... Can't see it hurting to get as much practise and experience. Well apart from hurting my bank account anyway

H147

I'd very much appreciate it if someone could PM me about the AC courses available and their recommendations?

W221

Just bear in mind it is totally possible to pass the AC without any coaching. I’ve passed it twice on my own with a decent score. Once in 1509 which I withdrew from and once in 1810 in which I was successful at all managed stages.

Si_zx10r

W221 wrote: »

Just bear in mind it is totally possible to pass the AC without any coaching. I’ve passed it twice on my own with a decent score. Once in 1509 which I withdrew from and once in 1810 in which I was successful at all managed stages.

Are you just waiting on an offer or have you started as yet?

W221

Si_zx10r wrote: »

Are you just waiting on an offer or have you started as yet?

Waiting on an offer currently

My vetting was an extremely protracted process, 38 weeks.