Fear that I might have been fired from work due to reporting pain in leg

beauf · 01-09-2019 02:24PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Doesn't apply to the OP, but yes, people can be overqualified for a role.

It's more you dilute your skillset and people hire you for mixed roles rather than what you want to specialise in. They may even hire you under misleading specs.

01-09-2019 02:25PM

Game of Thrones Fan wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure. It could be just a bank draft!

A company isn't going ask an employee to go to the bother of getting cash, physically going to a bank, queuing up in an under manned counter and filling out a form for a bank draft.

You're going to get a cheque from the company.

01-09-2019 02:28PM

beauf wrote: »

I think if you hire someone who has never done heavy lifting, to haul cement bags or coal, it's not going to work out for anyone. There is a skill to many as l labour same with driving a nail. Some people simply do not have the physical aptitude for it.

Some of the strongest toughest hardest working people I've met have at some point got injured. Not sure immediately firing them was to build a good working relationship.

You have to be smart about even doing something like hauling things around.

A pallet is not particularly heavy. And did any of these strong people get injured on a graduation programme (which usually lasts a couple of years) in their first week?

01-09-2019 02:38PM

As a matter of interest op, do you think considering how difficult it is for you to get a job, you should have stuck it out a bit longer to start the job you were hired to do? Seems like you had a bit of muscle strain due to not being used to manual work. As another poster said, wooden palates aren’t heavy to drag, it’s a one hand job.

beauf · 01-09-2019 02:44PM

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A pallet is not particularly heavy. And did any of these strong people get injured on a graduation programme (which usually lasts a couple of years) in their first week?

It's not about weight. If you bend and lift something awkwardly you can injure yourself, especially if it's repetitive.

Which is why you'd look for people with manual labour experience before hiring them for a job that requires it.

01-09-2019 02:44PM

Hi OP,

Reread your opening post, you'd already highlighted (on your first day?) the concerns you had re the proximity of 1 tonne bags. What was that about exactly, why did you feel unsafe? Was there a risk of them crushing you?

01-09-2019 02:49PM

beauf wrote: »

It's not about weight. If you bend and lift something awkwardly you can injure yourself, especially if it's repetitive.

Which is why you'd look for people with manual labour experience before hiring them for a job that requires it.

He got manual lifting training. Have you ever lifted a pallet, I have. He has said it was dragged a significant distance, and if that was more than a few metres they should have provided a pallet truck.

But, it's hard to know exactly what was asked.

Complaining about a hurt leg came in his first week where he questioned the safety of the company's work practices. He may have been 100% correct, but it's not surprising he was let go.

knockers84 · 01-09-2019 05:17PM

Game of Thrones Fan wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure. It could be just a bank draft!

Dear God

beauf · 01-09-2019 06:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

He got manual lifting training. Have you ever lifted a pallet, I have. He has said it was dragged a significant distance, and if that was more than a few metres they should have provided a pallet truck.

But, it's hard to know exactly what was asked.

Complaining about a hurt leg came in his first week where he questioned the safety of the company's work practices. He may have been 100% correct, but it's not surprising he was let go.

I'm curious, if I say I've lifted a pallet, then is what I said correct, or if I say I haven't does that mean its incorrect.

Also if someone does a manual lifting course does that mean they know everything about lifting, and its impossible to get injured afterwards.

Is it good sign if someone questions something, they get let go. Does that imply we should never question anything, especially safety related.

01-09-2019 06:17PM

beauf wrote: »

I'm curious, if I say I've lifted a pallet, then is what I said correct, or if I say I haven't does that mean its incorrect.

Also if someone does a manual lifting course does that mean they know everything about lifting, and its impossible to get injured afterwards.

Is it good sign if someone questions something, they get let go. Does that imply we should never question anything, especially safety related.

Jesus wept.

It’s a wooden palate, you literally do not have to be a scientist to lift it a little and drag it a bit.

tipptom · 01-09-2019 06:36PM

Pallets that are used to hold ton bags are very heavy and awkward to lift so it easier to drag them.

It is like something you would put the junior labourer at,sounds like a right shi**ty company to expect a man or woman who was starting as a scientist to do this and they should have given them a less physical job to do while they waited for the lab to be set up.

Almost seems like the OP was marked out of the four of them for this to force them out.

beauf · 01-09-2019 07:49PM

Dav010 wrote: »

Jesus wept.

It’s a wooden palate, you literally do not have to be a scientist to lift it a little and drag it a bit.

Jesus wept it was ....rhetorical....

01-09-2019 07:56PM

Dav010 wrote: »

Jesus wept.

It’s a wooden palate, you literally do not have to be a scientist to lift it a little and drag it a bit.

Dunno, rigging up a Block and Tackle would help

01-09-2019 08:10PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Dunno, rigging up a Block and Tackle would help

Very true, a scientific mind might make it easier.

beauf · 01-09-2019 09:14PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

...Have you ever lifted a pallet, I have. ...

....I guess only a qualified and experienced pallet lifter will be able to answer the question....

01-09-2019 09:21PM

beauf wrote: »

....I guess only a qualified and experienced pallet lifter will be able to answer the question....

What are the points for that?

01-09-2019 09:23PM

beauf wrote: »

....I guess only a qualified and experienced pallet lifter will be able to answer the question....

And should be listed specifically on a job description

beauf · 01-09-2019 09:39PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And should be listed specifically on a job description

... in pencil for those swinging the lead... subject to change...

Timistry · 07-09-2019 03:39AM

Sorry OP didnt read the whole thread but company must have an SOP and risk assessment for every task performed on site. If not, they are liable

07-09-2019 04:08AM

Timistry wrote: »

Sorry OP didnt read the whole thread but company must have an SOP and risk assessment for every task performed on site. If not, they are liable

Liable for what?

Game of Thrones Fan · 07-09-2019 09:18AM

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Liable for what?

I must actually report them to the health and safety about that.

07-09-2019 10:28AM

Game of Thrones Fan wrote: »

I must actually report them to the health and safety about that.

They will come out, do an assessment, the company will get a report to what needs to be fixed and a time frame to fix.

No biggie. What were you expecting, blues and twos and the directors being carted off in handcuffs?

Move. On.

Phileas Frog · 07-09-2019 10:41AM

Not a great few weeks for you in your new job OP, apparently you've gone deaf too.

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058013061/1/#post111183695

07-09-2019 10:52AM

Phileas Frog wrote: »

Not a great few weeks for you in your new job OP, apparently you've gone deaf too.

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058013061/1/#post111183695

The OP has had some serious questioning on this and other threads. Will nobody think of this poor OP, the Jonah of Scientists.

Problem Of Motivation · 07-09-2019 11:08AM

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The OP has had some serious questioning on this and other threads. Will nobody think of this poor OP, the Jonah of Scientists.

Well I wouldn't be gloating about it.

jackboy · 07-09-2019 11:34AM

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The OP has had some serious questioning on this and other threads. Will nobody think of this poor OP, the Jonah of Scientists.

I’m seriously wondering if these stories of workplace woes are real. If they are, the op sounds like a nightmare employee who can’t look after himself and takes responsibility for nothing.

Game of Thrones Fan · 07-09-2019 11:43AM

jackboy wrote: »

I’m seriously wondering if these stories of workplace woes are real. If they are, the op sounds like a nightmare employee who can’t look after himself and takes responsibility for nothing.

Maybe I should have spoken up sooner about the ear protection, but with all due respect, that supervisor should've known to show us where the ear protection was on our first time going in. The other newbee wouldn't have had the initiative to ask for it let alone the ability to question what was going on.

jackboy · 07-09-2019 11:50AM

Game of Thrones Fan wrote: »

Maybe I should have spoken up sooner about the ear protection, but with all due respect, that supervisor should've known to show us where the ear protection was on our first time going in. The other newbee wouldn't have had the initiative to ask for it let alone the ability to question what was going on.

You are responsible for your own safety. You should never do a task that you deem unsafe. A lot of employers have poor practices but they are rarely tackled unless an employee is killed or seriously injured.

Reviews and Books Galore · 07-09-2019 11:54AM

Game of Thrones Fan wrote: »

I've been fired.

Manager said that the job spec has changed, that she's letting me go, and that a new job spec will have to made available for which I can apply to. She's saying that all of a sudden they don't need to take as many samples as before and therefore the new job spec is going to involve manual labor as well as laboratory work.

All this goes completely against the contract which I pointed out. After being fired, I spoke with the site H&S person, and he said he might be able to talk about this today with me, but I haven't heard from him. They're paying me until tomorrow, and that's it.

Is there anything I can do about this? with all the laws we have in our country, is there anything that I can do?

I'm wondering would you give an anonymous bad review about the manager? Taking a young lad with a bait and switch in an environent with a lot of workplace injuries is pretty scummy.

Phileas Frog · 07-09-2019 12:27PM

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

I'm wondering would you give an anonymous bad review about the manager? Taking a young lad with a bait and switch in an environent with a lot of workplace injuries is pretty scummy.

It's utter ball cocks. Let me introduce you to Walter Mitty

Fear that I might have been fired from work due to reporting pain in leg

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