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Female orgasm through penetrative sex

  • 22-08-2019 9:50am
    #1
    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I’ve been on the dating scene a little while now and I’ve come across a (small) number of men who believe that a woman can orgasm through penetrative sex alone. I had an incident recently where he said he’d make it happen through sex and when I explained no, I can’t achieve an orgasm that way, he was shocked and smugly said “Every girl I’ve been with has cum that way, you must’ve been with the wrong guys.”

    Why do some guys not know that orgasm is achieved through the clitoris? I know that’s it’s possible to achieve an orgasm through sex alone but it’s certainly rare.

    So AH men, did you know this? And AH women, have you faked an orgasm through sex because you didn’t have the heart to tell him that’s not how it works, or for some other reason?

    It’s been irking me for a while now and I want to get to the bottom of it!


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ... I want to get to the bottom of it!

    I think this wording will come back to bite you on the very same bottom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭SuperSean11


    Porns to blame


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    Lack of education, porn, and partners faking it most likely. Or they are skilled (or can hit the right spots) / were lucky with the partner they were with who was someone who can come through penetrative sex.

    🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,977 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    I’ve been on the dating scene a little while now and I’ve come across a (small) number of men who believe that a woman can orgasm through penetrative sex alone.

    Some men are just lazy and selfish, most arent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Athdara


    I’ve been on the dating scene a little while now and I’ve come across a (small) number of men who believe that a woman can orgasm through penetrative sex alone. I had an incident recently where he said he’d make it happen through sex and when I explained no, I can’t achieve an orgasm that way, he was shocked and smugly said “Every girl I’ve been with has cum that way, you must’ve been with the wrong guys.”

    Why do some guys not know that orgasm is achieved through the clitoris? I know that’s it’s possible to achieve an orgasm through sex alone but it’s certainly rare.

    So AH men, did you know this? And AH women, have you faked an orgasm through sex because you didn’t have the heart to tell him that’s not how it works, or for some other reason?

    It’s been irking me for a while now and I want to get to the bottom of it!

    There’s actually 4 types- clitoral, G-Spot, female Ejaculation & Cervical.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭bo0li5eumx12kp


    Athdara wrote: »
    There’s actually 4 types- clitoral, G-Spot, female Ejaculation & Cervical.

    Cervical?

    I hooked up with a student Dr once and she didn't so much explain cervical - she basically showed me what to do.

    5 minutes later - the top of her head basically blew off.

    Tried it with another chicks once; received a firm elbow to the solar plexus.

    :confused:

    I would definitely appreciate some better explanatory science on these "denominations".


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭bo0li5eumx12kp


    I’ve been on the dating scene a little while now and I’ve come across a (small) number of men who believe that a woman can orgasm through penetrative sex alone. I had an incident recently where he said he’d make it happen through sex and when I explained no, I can’t achieve an orgasm that way, he was shocked and smugly said “Every girl I’ve been with has cum that way, you must’ve been with the wrong guys.”

    Why do some guys not know that orgasm is achieved through the clitoris? I know that’s it’s possible to achieve an orgasm through sex alone but it’s certainly rare.

    So AH men, did you know this? And AH women, have you faked an orgasm through sex because you didn’t have the heart to tell him that’s not how it works, or for some other reason?

    It’s been irking me for a while now and I want to get to the bottom of it!

    Orgasm through vaginal penetration exclusively, I can tell you, is definitely possible - but a lot more factors come into play - this is where things get complicated.

    Where's the vast vast vast majority of the time, sex without clitoral stimulation can be a pleasant "close" experience, it's often just - kind of numb.

    Not going to get explicit but, I can tell you that when gratification is being induced via penetration exclusively - there's absolutely no mistaking it (as a man saying that - it's not "numb". i mean you basically feel the process at work and it's unmistakable - not to mention, particularly awesome).


    The last piece of information I'm going to leave in regards to this - there must be, and I get it's a little taboo - but to experience this, the man in question must have an element of forcefulness to his demeanor.

    Not physical forcefulness - no, absolutely not.

    Emotional forcefulness more so, I would say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Clitoral stimulation is certainly very important and usually necessary - at least partly - for a lady to orgasm. As usual your exact mileage may vary, but I would suggest to you that your smug Lothario was with women who were faking it, and his expertise didn't extend to spotting it. A real orgasm is rather difficult to fake - forget about Meg Ryan and screaming and roaring and all that bullshit. ;)


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    so he wouldn't go down on you, is that what you're saying!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Cervical?

    I hooked up with a student Dr once and she didn't so much explain cervical - she basically showed me what to do.

    5 minutes later - the top of her head basically blew off.

    Tried it with another chicks once; received a firm elbow to the solar plexus.

    :confused:

    I would definitely appreciate some better explanatory science on these "denominations".

    Wanna try explaining Cervical here? :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Cervical?

    I hooked up with a student Dr once and she didn't so much explain cervical - she basically showed me what to do.

    5 minutes later - the top of her head basically blew off.

    Tried it with another chicks once; received a firm elbow to the solar plexus.

    :confused:

    I would definitely appreciate some better explanatory science on these "denominations".

    Was wondering why my clinic appointment ran an hour late that day and why the doctor seemed distracted

    I just got a prescription for codeine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭BohsCeltic


    I agree porn is to blame. When i was away my ex would video chat me looking for some fun, never sticking her hands inside, just play with the clit.

    Women like tongue for sure.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Athdara wrote: »
    There’s actually 4 types- clitoral, G-Spot, female Ejaculation & Cervical.
    Well... The "types" are highly dubious as far as research goes. The G-spot when present is still technically a clitoral orgasm as the clitoris has a large internal structure which is some women is accessible from the front part of the vaginal wall. The same structure can mean for some women that orgasm through intercourse alone is perfectly and regularly possible. Cervical is extremely dubious as the nerve endings involved aren't connected to the usual pathways. For a lot of women it would result in discomfort even pain. Female Ejaculation is even more nebulous. It's almost entirely made up of urine. Don't belive me? If someone is a squirter, don't wahs the sheets and get back to me in 24 hours. The glands involved in the body don't have the capacity to expel much of any volume, certainly not the volumes found in squirting. Doesn't mean it's not pleasurable mind you and fair enough.

    The female orgasm itself is fascinating. It's not a biological requirement for conception or even pair bonding. Some research reckoned it increases the chances of concption , but it's highly speculative. Pair bonding would be on firmer ground. And it varies a lot between women. Some can go through their whole lives without one, whereas others get off on the regular. Unlike the male orgasm which is a near given unless there's physical damage or an underlying condition. "How to have an orgasm" said no headline in a man's magazine ever.

    One hypothesis holds that the relative difficulty in achieving it for women is a way of weeding out selfish men who don't make the effort as they're men who are less likely to stick around or make time for child rearing and protection. Interestingly humans are the odd ones out in apes and other animals in that the clitoris isn't directly stimulated by intercourse. Over evolutionary time it "migrated" further away. This could just be a quirk of evolution of course, because as above it doesn't seem to be a positive or negative either way to conception.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭killanena


    My fiancee can reach orgasm through penetration alone. Sometimes several times but other times not at all. I always make sure to finish the job regardless though ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Asking neckbeards on Boards about the female orgasm is like asking an Australian about culture.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Asking neckbeards on Boards about the female orgasm is like asking an Australian about culture.
    :pac::pac::pac::pac:

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Asking neckbeards on Boards about the female orgasm is like asking an Australian about culture.

    "I must return to my comic book store, where I dispense the insults rather than absorb them!" :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Athdara wrote: »

    There’s actually 4 types- ..........

    5 - you forgot one ..... Financial

    When you go to the atm on the way home and go "show balance"








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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭bo0li5eumx12kp


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Well... The "types" are highly dubious as far as research goes. The G-spot when present is still technically a clitoral orgasm as the clitoris has a large internal structure which is some women is accessible from the front part of the vaginal wall. The same structure can mean for some women that orgasm through intercourse alone is perfectly and regularly possible. Cervical is extremely dubious as the nerve endings involved aren't connected to the usual pathways. For a lot of women it would result in discomfort even pain. Female Ejaculation is even more nebulous. It's almost entirely made up of urine. Don't belive me? If someone is a squirter, don't wahs the sheets and get back to me in 24 hours. The glands involved in the body don't have the capacity to expel much of any volume, certainly not the volumes found in squirting. Doesn't mean it's not pleasurable mind you and fair enough.

    The female orgasm itself is fascinating. It's not a biological requirement for conception or even pair bonding. Some research reckoned it increases the chances of concption , but it's highly speculative. Pair bonding would be on firmer ground. And it varies a lot between women. Some can go through their whole lives without one, whereas others get off on the regular. Unlike the male orgasm which is a near given unless there's physical damage or an underlying condition. "How to have an orgasm" said no headline in a man's magazine ever.

    One hypothesis holds that the relative difficulty in achieving it for women is a way of weeding out selfish men who don't make the effort as they're men who are less likely to stick around or make time for child rearing and protection. Interestingly humans are the odd ones out in apes and other animals in that the clitoris isn't directly stimulated by intercourse. Over evolutionary time it "migrated" further away. This could just be a quirk of evolution of course, because as above it doesn't seem to be a positive or negative either way to conception.

    Congratulations sir.

    In three short paragraphs, you've managed to take all the "fun" out of female orgasms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Reviews and Books Galore


    That picture is absurdly hot. Maybe its the hateful eyes?

    I was reading about the orgasim gap and I kind of started to wonder if a lot of women gave developed dead hand syndrome? If your masturbating in the sane way with a specific type of dikdo I imagine a real man would be hard to enjoy.

    Catty comment on my part, but I wonder is there some truth to it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭wyf437gn6btzue


    Athdara wrote: »

    There’s actually 4 types- ........../quote]

    5 - you forgot one ..... Financial

    When you go to the atm on the way home and go "show balance"

    Not sure that is the way it works mate


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭bo0li5eumx12kp


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    Wanna try explaining Cervical here? :D

    I'm not sure that kind of lewdity is allowed on AH or boards in general...?

    Umm - given it's kind of individual I basically just said, "what do you enjoy most?"

    After a brief pause - she basically guided the way.

    Without bordering the profane - let's just allow the music to do the talking.

    Infer my man.

    Infer;



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Congratulations sir.

    In three short paragraphs, you've managed to take all the "fun" out of female orgasms.
    Feck. You've talked with my exes then.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,238 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    That picture is absurdly hot. Maybe its the hateful eyes?

    I was reading about the orgasim gap and I kind of started to wonder if a lot of women gave developed dead hand syndrome? If your masturbating in the sane way with a specific type of dikdo I imagine a real man would be hard to enjoy.

    Catty comment on my part, but I wonder is there some truth to it.

    I don't know a single woman who uses a dildo to masturbate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,270 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    That fleshy rubik's cube is enough trouble on its own to figure out so ask what/how/where they like it. It benefits both.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    The secret is for the woman to be very stimulated before penetration. Penetration alone wont acheive the orgasm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,440 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    The 'secret ' is to believe your partner if she tells you that penetration alone does nothing for her. You don't have a magic cock or special moves or techniques that can fix her. She's not broken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    The 'secret ' is to believe your partner if she tells you that penetration alone does nothing for her. You don't have a magic cock or special moves or techniques that can fix her. She's not broken.

    So filling her up with clean oil and replacing the spark plugs is not a good idea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    I don't know a single woman who uses a dildo to masturbate.

    I'm shocked by this :eek: do you know women that use vibrators to masturbate?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    So filling her up with clean oil and replacing the spark plugs is not a good idea?
    Most are diesels so no.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,440 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    So filling her up with clean oil and replacing the spark plugs is not a good idea?

    Just give the spark plug a good, long rub using strokes of varying speed and pressure with all the tools adapted to the purpose. Depending on the model, she should be good for a fill-up during this procedure or immediately after ignition.

    You're welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,440 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    laoisgem wrote: »
    I'm shocked by this :eek: do you know women that use vibrators to masturbate?

    Clitoral stimulation.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    I don't know a single woman who uses a dildo to masturbate.
    He's probably mixing up dildos and vibrators. Much more uptake of the latter.
    Sardonicat wrote: »
    The 'secret ' is to believe your partner if she tells you that penetration alone does nothing for her. You don't have a magic cock or special moves or techniques that can fix her. She's not broken.
    +1 or find a woman where it does.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    I don't know a single woman who uses a dildo to masturbate.

    Talking serious for a minute: some do. Gives that nice full feeling ;-)

    Or vibrators, very popular toy.
    - But there appears to be some truth in the claim that repeated strong vibrations round your important little places have a deadening effect, eventually.

    Fingers and (specially) imagination are much more reliable and don't need re-charging.

    Note that word...imagination: ?
    See, orgasm for women is NOT like a Cola-machine, where you put the coin in slot A and a treat drops into slot B. Its usually not just mechanical, like it is for men. There has to be some kind of connection, - mental, emotional, or in fantasy.

    Given the right context, most women can c*m most ways; but if she says that she definitely can't c*m today, or not "that way", she's telling the truth, so LISTEN!!

    So go for the getting-to-know-her, and ask, and listen, and try things, and your results will definitely be better.

    You can put your bottom dollar on this one, btw. #experienced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Just give the spark plug a good, long rub using strokes of varying speed and pressure with all the tools adapted to the purpose. Depending on the model, she should be good for a fill-up during this procedure or immediately after ignition.

    You're welcome.

    Im just going to sit here for a while before I stand up again. No reason. Don't look at me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,238 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    laoisgem wrote: »
    I'm shocked by this :eek: do you know women that use vibrators to masturbate?

    Yep. Not all, though. Within my circle it's about a 50/50 split between those who use vibrators and those who prefer to go au naturel. No dildos, though. By and large, masturbation for women is not about simulating the sensation of penetrative sex the way it is for men.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    Talking serious for a minute: some do. Gives that nice full feeling ;-)

    Or vibrators, very popular toy.
    - But there appears to be some truth in the claim that repeated strong vibrations round your important little places have a deadening effect, eventually.

    Fingers and (specially) imagination are much more reliable and don't need re-charging.

    Note that word...imagination: ?
    See, orgasm for women is NOT like a Cola-machine, where you put the coin in slot A and a treat drops into slot B. Its usually not just mechanical, like it is for men. There has to be some kind of connection, - mental, emotional, or in fantasy.

    Given the right context, most women can c*m most ways; but if she says that she definitely can't c*m today, or not "that way", she's telling the truth, so LISTEN!!

    So go for the getting-to-know-her, and ask, and listen, and try things, and your results will definitely be better.

    You can put your bottom dollar on this one, btw. #experienced

    Its the internet. You can say cum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    Cervical?

    I hooked up with a student Dr once and she didn't so much explain cervical - she basically showed me what to do.

    5 minutes later - the top of her head basically blew off.

    Tried it with another chicks once; received a firm elbow to the solar plexus.

    :confused:

    I would definitely appreciate some better explanatory science on these "denominations".

    Yea op you should do a video just to educate us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,222 ✭✭✭circadian


    If you wanna get grapefruited then you gotta listen to what the woman wants first.

    Fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,238 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    Its the internet. You can say cum

    I differentiate between the two. To me come = the action. Cum = the resulting material. It's the copywriter in me, I can't help it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    So singing Butterfly by Crazy Town while stimulating "the area" in time is....frowned upon?

    Come my lady
    Come come my lady
    You're my butterfly, sugar baby
    Come my lady
    Come come my lady
    You're my butterfly, sugar baby


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Monica Modern Burger


    Apparently Dealz sell vibrators. Not a gondola stick sized one, more keyring size.

    Supposedly good bang for your buck too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Athdara wrote: »
    There’s actually 4 types- clitoral, G-Spot, female Ejaculation & Cervical.

    Here, there are labs in the States that can't find that and you expect lil' ol' me to!??

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    The clitoris can be indirectly stimulated sufficiently during penetrative sex to achieve orgasm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    So singing Butterfly by Crazy Town while stimulating "the area" in time is....frowned upon?

    Come my lady
    Come come my lady
    You're my butterfly, sugar baby
    Come my lady
    Come come my lady
    You're my butterfly, sugar baby

    Its frowned upon in all situations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,440 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    So singing Butterfly by Crazy Town while stimulating "the area" in time is....frowned upon?

    Come my lady
    Come come my lady
    You're my butterfly, sugar baby
    Come my lady
    Come come my lady
    You're my butterfly, sugar baby

    An awful earworm coupled with an image I really don't want seared into my brain.

    Thanks, Deebs. No really, thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,440 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    The clitoris can be indirectly stimulated sufficiently during penetrative sex to achieve orgasm.

    Not for every one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Yep. Not all, though. Within my circle it's about a 50/50 split between those who use vibrators and those who prefer to go au naturel. No dildos, though. By and large, masturbation for women is not about simulating the sensation of penetrative sex the way it is for men.

    Oh I get that simulating the sensation of penetrative sex isn't what would get most women off, was just surprised that no one would get off on it :o But then again, going au naturel never worked on myself (sorry if TMI) :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭bo0li5eumx12kp


    Yea op you should do a video just to educate us.

    I am not the OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Some people can only orgasm when getting shat on or beaten with whips and all sorts of other mad shite

    To dumb it down to whether the bean is flicked or not is a bit lazy.


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