Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

carrollsno1

dzer2 wrote: »

Ah that's great

Young lad just got a phone call offering him a job. It wasn't advertised just a business that supports the GAA club and reckons he is suited to it. Thay had to contact the team manager to get his number

GAA is very handy for getting work here and abroad ye dont have to be great at it but if ye show sone committment youre pretty sweet.

Water John

Congrats Carroll on becoming a suit and tie operator. Not fishing for info, just best of luck.

roosterman71

I was offered cattle slurry today at €50/2000 gallons. That's a robbery right? Would have to draw and spread it after

kollegeknight

Great to hear. Congrats.

carrollsno1

Water John wrote: »

Congrats Carroll on becoming a suit and tie operator. Not fishing for info, just best of luck.

Far from suit and tie, swapping the wellies for steel caps thats about as much change for the minute

Keep Sluicing

What's the VAT rate when one company is billing another for labour? Is it 13.5%

Reggie.

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

What's the VAT rate when one company is billing another for labour? Is it 13.5%

Yeah. 23% for goods

Keep Sluicing

Reggie. wrote: »

Yeah. 23% for goods

Is it 13.5% on contractors doing baling and mowing so?

straight

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Got it anyway, not much questions about CVs or previous experience just judged me on what way i was today.

Your about to learn how short a weeks work actually is and also the amount of breaks and holidays you are entitled to. Best of luck.

Suckler

Water John wrote: »

People raised on a farm are rated highly as workers by those outside the industry.

I'm going to make it my life's mission to find out who started that rumour. It's b0llox.

I've had plenty of experience in hiring and firing for different types of employers and bodies. Coming from farm stock never ever was seen as advantageous.

Edit: I'm adding GAA to that. Stop telling me about U-16/minor/U-21/Junior B etc. at some stage you have to let it go.

jimini0

Suckler wrote: »

I'm going to make it my life's mission to find out who started that rumour. It's b0llox.

I've had plenty of experience in hiring and firing for different types of employers and bodies. Coming from farm stock never ever was seen as advantageous.

Edit: I'm adding GAA to that. Stop telling me about U-16/minor/U-21/Junior B etc. at some stage you have to let it go.

I suppose years ago coming from a farm was a huge advantage. You were a very hard worker. That was when it was hard labour. But modern machinery has taken the work out of it. Most of the jobs that had to be done by hand are gone.
Cleaning out a barn with fork and wheel Barrow.
Stacking small square bales of hay.
Forking on a silage bit.
Picking stone.
Pulling bohalauns.
Weeding and picking spuds.
And many more.
There is a machine for all those jobs now so the hard labour is gone. Don't get me wrong farming is a tough job but with the machinery around now there is no back breaking jobs.

whelan2

jimini0 wrote: »

I suppose years ago coming from a farm was a huge advantage. You were a very hard worker. That was when it was hard labour. But modern machinery has taken the work out of it. Most of the jobs that had to be done by hand are gone.
Cleaning out a barn with fork and wheel Barrow.
Stacking small square bales of hay.
Forking on a silage bit.
Picking stone.
Pulling bohalauns.
Weeding and picking spuds.
And many more.
There is a machine for all those jobs now so the hard labour is gone. Don't get me wrong farming is a tough job but with the machinery around now there is no back breaking jobs.

Not many kids are made go out on farm like years ago.

Dinzee Conlee

whelan2 wrote: »

Not many kids are made go out on farm like years ago.

Ha - I think every generation says this

straight

jimini0 wrote: »

I suppose years ago coming from a farm was a huge advantage. You were a very hard worker. That was when it was hard labour. But modern machinery has taken the work out of it. Most of the jobs that had to be done by hand are gone.
Cleaning out a barn with fork and wheel Barrow.
Stacking small square bales of hay.
Forking on a silage bit.
Picking stone.
Pulling bohalauns.
Weeding and picking spuds.
And many more.
There is a machine for all those jobs now so the hard labour is gone. Don't get me wrong farming is a tough job but with the machinery around now there is no back breaking jobs.

I think it's harder now. Nobody worked alone years ago. There was always loads of help and smaller numbers. There was always time to talk then.

straight

Suckler wrote: »

I'm going to make it my life's mission to find out who started that rumour. It's b0llox.

I've had plenty of experience in hiring and firing for different types of employers and bodies. Coming from farm stock never ever was seen as advantageous.

Edit: I'm adding GAA to that. Stop telling me about U-16/minor/U-21/Junior B etc. at some stage you have to let it go.

I'd say farmers are known for their work ethic alright. The thing is work ethic isn't as appreciated as it should be.

Albert Johnson

Suckler wrote: »

I'm going to make it my life's mission to find out who started that rumour. It's b0llox.

I've had plenty of experience in hiring and firing for different types of employers and bodies. Coming from farm stock never ever was seen as advantageous.

Edit: I'm adding GAA to that. Stop telling me about U-16/minor/U-21/Junior B etc. at some stage you have to let it go.

I think coming from a farming background can have both positives and negatives when it comes to possessing employable traits. Having said that I don't know if an actual farmer makes for a particularly good employee especially a livestock farmer.

A few non farming business people I've worked for have often said that they'd much prefer to employee non farmer's. There reasoning for this is that the day job is always playing second fiddle to there real passion of farming and there's always an excuse of needing time off or to head away early in the evening due to X,Y or Z happening on farm.

I understand that non farming folk also have lives outside of the 9 to 5 but it probably doesn't interfere with work life as much as agriculture does. In my own personal life I've always tried to balance the two but I probably do put more effort and thought into the farm than work. I'd still rate myself a decent employee but it's only ever a day's wages to me and my real interests are never far from my mind when on the clock.

ganmo

I can't remember who I heard this from but they said that young farmers would do the jobs that were put in front if them but they wouldn't look for the next job after the one you gave them.

Reggie.

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

Is it 13.5% on contractors doing baling and mowing so?

That's it

Kevhog1988

Suckler wrote: »

I'm going to make it my life's mission to find out who started that rumour. It's b0llox.

I've had plenty of experience in hiring and firing for different types of employers and bodies. Coming from farm stock never ever was seen as advantageous.

Edit: I'm adding GAA to that. Stop telling me about U-16/minor/U-21/Junior B etc. at some stage you have to let it go.

I dont agree with that at all. If i was interviewing a lad who did a bit of farming or played gaa and then another lad who played call of duty im pretty sure which one id hire.

Albert Johnson

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

I dont agree with that at all. If i was interviewing a lad who did a bit of farming or played gaa and then another lad who played call of duty im pretty sure which one id hire.

Not trying to be argumentative but if the lad playing call of duty or similar was conducting the interview which candidate of the above do you think he'd choose? We're all somewhat biased towards believing our own choices are the best overall. If you ask a Ford salesman what's the best car he'll hardly tell you to buy a Toyota.

minerleague

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Work with a view, going pouring a 20x17x9ft water tank here.

hi limestone have 13 tonne machine ( old but cost nothing in repairs, bought for
handy money 2009) to tidy neglected farm. thinking of changing to 6 tonne for
more maintenance ( easier to move etc) Is it ok to ask who you bought from and
how you found them to deal with ( fine if you prefer not to )

Limestone Cowboy

minerleague wrote: »

hi limestone have 13 tonne machine ( old but cost nothing in repairs, bought for
handy money 2009) to tidy neglected farm. thinking of changing to 6 tonne for
more maintenance ( easier to move etc) Is it ok to ask who you bought from and
how you found them to deal with ( fine if you prefer not to )

Ya I bought it off whelans in barefield just outside Ennis, They are the main hyundai dealers found them the finest to deal with in fairness, couldn't fault them and they have a huge range of parts in stock. Saying that if I change it down the road I don't think I'll go for a hyundai again.

Say my name

A bit of irish farming history for ye.

Supported by the western English gentlemen. Opposed by the Norfolk and Suffolk fattening gentlemen.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Importation_Act_1667

Different times. Same human nature.

Say my name

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Not trying to be argumentative but if the lad playing call of duty or similar was conducting the interview which candidate of the above do you think he'd choose? We're all somewhat biased towards believing our own choices are the best overall. If you ask a Ford salesman what's the best car he'll hardly tell you to buy a Toyota.

He'd pick the one who's able to lift 2 bags of cement.

Do I win?;)

_Brian

Suckler wrote: »

I'm going to make it my life's mission to find out who started that rumour. It's b0llox.

I've had plenty of experience in hiring and firing for different types of employers and bodies. Coming from farm stock never ever was seen as advantageous.

Edit: I'm adding GAA to that. Stop telling me about U-16/minor/U-21/Junior B etc. at some stage you have to let it go.

I hired maintenance staff for MN company and always found folk from farming backgrounds better employees. Much harder working and flexible too. Hiring folk from major urban areas regularly resulted in folk that had a shocking sense of entitlement and looking for rigid rules around their work.
That was 10 years ago in fairness but I know one business that I worked in and the owner would still say the same.

Lime Tree Farm

Say my name wrote: »

He'd pick the one who's able to lift 2 bags of cement.

Do I win?;)

He could claim that he was able to lift 50 kg - but the employer could never put it to the test, the maximum recommended lifting weight is 25 kg.

patsy_mccabe

Passed the annual TB test this morning. Little things can make your day. Vet even stamped the cards here as they don't want anyone going into the office.

I timed it with a neighbour too so we helped each other out. Vet halved the callout charge too , so worked out great for all.

jaymla627

roosterman71 wrote: »

I was offered cattle slurry today at €50/2000 gallons. That's a robbery right? Would have to draw and spread it after

Should be free our payment your way if your accounting for it on your nitrates and is been exported into you

wrangler

roosterman71 wrote: »

I was offered cattle slurry today at €50/2000 gallons. That's a robbery right? Would have to draw and spread it after

You'd buy the NPK in a bag cheaper and be more convenient to spread

Keep Sluicing

Local piggery is trying to charge €70 for a 6000gal (artic lorry) load. They were landing it free in the farmers tank up till the end of march.