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Thoughts on Mercedes E220 Coupe

  • 29-07-2019 9:35pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭


    Hi, I'm thinking about picking up a 2010-12 E220 coupe.Does anyone have any experience or knowledge on them? Reliability,issues, running and repair costs or any opinions ?
    Really like the look of them and looking for something with a bit of comfort after years in a van!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭covey123


    Bump


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭kevohmsford


    https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/mercedes-benz/e-class-coupe-2009/

    Not familiar with these cars but had a look on Honest John.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


    covey123 wrote: »
    Hi, I'm thinking about picking up a 2010-12 E220 coupe.Does anyone have any experience or knowledge on them? Reliability,issues, running and repair costs or any opinions ?
    Really like the look of them and looking for something with a bit of comfort after years in a van!

    Like yourself, after years of driving different makes of car's , truck's and vans etc. I wanted to "Upgrade". and I looked at a good few car's on Done deal, Carsireland etc. and eventually decided to take chance on a Merc. It was a 2010 E class 2.1 CDI Automatic. I was a little bit apprehensive about it, thinking that if it gave trouble, it could be an expensive fix, being Mercedes Benz.
    Now 19 mths later, very happy with it. Its a big roomy car, and very comfortable, but while it's size make's it so comfortable, the downside is that when it comes to parking, it can be problematic. It's not for the fainthearted in tightly spaced car parks. This is especially true of Coupe's, as their doors are far wider than the Saloon's 4 doors. Fuel consumption varies from 6.76 to 9.38 Ltrs per 100 Klms. ( that includes trailer work, and back road's with frequent gear change's)
    Things to watch for:
    Timing Chain and Sprockets: need checking / replacing in or around the 130'00 - 150'000 Klm. mark.
    Auto transmission fluid and filter need changing every 40'000 Klms. These were originally designed to last the life of the vehicle, no servicing required.....ever,,but it turned out that they do need servicing. If the trans dipstick cap show's an all black colour,,,,it has never been opened or checked. But if it show's a red insert in the black cap, means that at some stage in it's life, it has been opened. Get this checked as it's important.
    A good up to date service history is essential..... no history----no purchase ( unless you are a bit of a gambler.
    There is 220'000 Klms on mine now, and it drives beautiful. I service it myself mainly just engine oil and filter's, every 10'000 Klms, and so far it's working out fine. On the downside, like all rear wheel drive vehicles, in wet weather ( especially after a dry spell ) it tend's to "skip" on the rear end if you are cornering a bit too fast, unlike a front wheel drive car. But this is something you take into account and soon get used to it.
    If you need any more info, feel free to PM me.
    If you do go ahead and purchase, "Good Luck" with it. I have absolutely no regret's about purchasing my one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭covey123


    Excellent reply, loads of great info, thank you.Will definitely give you a shout if I do bite the bullet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Covey, by any chance was it one in Askeaton? I'm looking at one this week, and came on to post the same question here!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭covey123


    No not looking at any one in particular, have tested one but might be another while before I buy.If you purchase yourself would you mind sticking up any feedback here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    100%, hopefully have one by Friday, waiting on the Credit Union. It's a gamble I'm taking, as I've been getting 1k loans for the last 3 years and pissing money away on repairs. I'm splashing on this as I've heard they're bulletproof and I need something bulletproof, to last me at least 3 years now. I'm bricking it, it's either going to make or break me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    Make sure to check main dealer for parts, they are normally cheaper for most service items.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Tommyboy40 wrote: »
    Make sure to check main dealer for parts, they are normally cheaper for most service items.

    Or check out mercedesbenzofnewcastle or Opie Oils

    They often have great deals on service items, even taking in to account the exchange rate ( v-good at the moment) + the costs of An Post , if you have an account with "Parcel Post" ( not sure if I have the name right )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    All going well, i'll be picking it up Monday. Will let ye know!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


    All going well, i'll be picking it up Monday. Will let ye know!

    Best of luck with it !!! and does it have a service history ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Picked her up yesterday. Full service history from Frank Hogans Mercedes since the day it was sold, every serviced (partial then full, repeat) every 15000 kms (there or thereabouts). She's driving great, couple of noises like rubbing, he reckons it's just the discs releasing after being parked up and will resolve itself. It's got a week or i'm back to him.

    Other than that, aside from a handful of small chips/scuffs/marks, the thing is immaculate. Don't think anyone has ever sat in the passenger seat or back, and even the drivers seat still looks new, wheel doesn't look like it has been used (200000+ kms on it), just all around fantastic condition. Just hope the mechanics are as good. €240 for a partial service, €400 for a full, €350 for the transmission oil/filter change. It's not going to be cheap, but it'll be enjoyable.

    Only thing that's annoying me is the motor tax. I'm ok with paying more than a manual, it's to be expected, but they have this is the 157-170 range, and everything I'm seeing is that it's well lower than that. I wonder is it like the RX7/8 where they just decide it's in a certain band? Pretty sure the AMG version would be in the lower band. Can this be challenged? I know it's only a couple of quid, but I'd rather have it in my pocket than in the governments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Picked her up yesterday. Full service history from Frank Hogans Mercedes since the day it was sold, every serviced (partial then full, repeat) every 15000 kms (there or thereabouts). She's driving great, couple of noises like rubbing, he reckons it's just the discs releasing after being parked up and will resolve itself. It's got a week or i'm back to him.

    Other than that, aside from a handful of small chips/scuffs/marks, the thing is immaculate. Don't think anyone has ever sat in the passenger seat or back, and even the drivers seat still looks new, wheel doesn't look like it has been used (200000+ kms on it), just all around fantastic condition. Just hope the mechanics are as good. €240 for a partial service, €400 for a full, €350 for the transmission oil/filter change. It's not going to be cheap, but it'll be enjoyable.

    Only thing that's annoying me is the motor tax. I'm ok with paying more than a manual, it's to be expected, but they have this is the 157-170 range, and everything I'm seeing is that it's well lower than that. I wonder is it like the RX7/8 where they just decide it's in a certain band? Pretty sure the AMG version would be in the lower band. Can this be challenged? I know it's only a couple of quid, but I'd rather have it in my pocket than in the governments.

    Well Wear, the more you drive it, the more you will appreciate it. Takes a bit of getting used to, for sure.Great that you got the full service history,,,,that's worth it's weight in Gold. It should show if / when the timing chain was done, and also the transmission service.
    In my one, the 2010 Saloon 2.1 w212 CDI model, the seat covering ( called "Artico" ) was a known problem...it split along the main stitched seam on the driver's seat. Does your's show any sign of excessive wear like that?? All the other seat's in in mine look just the same as they did coming out od the factory.
    If it's only brake disc's, don't worry, that will clear up quickly. Minor blemishes in the paint would be considered normal at that year. Nothing to worry about, if needed they can be touched up, What colour is it?
    Was 201948 Klm's on mine when I got it, now 220280, so just over 18'000 Klms driven
    Road Tax is €390.00 yearly. Manual or Automatic transmission has nothing to do with the tax bands....it's all about emission's.....is your's a E200, E220, E250, E300, E350?
    The service warning is set at 365 days on mine...or 15'000 Klms using Long Life Oil. Normally, I'd change it at 10'000 Klm's,,,you can get service kit's, ( oil and filter) on line at a pretty good price. The Trans oil and filter change interval is @ 40'000 Klms.

    Again " Good Luck" and now, Enjoy the Drive...;););)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Does take some getting used to alright, but nowhere near as much as the 02 E220 Saloon I had. Loved that car and started my love of Mercedes, so delighted to have this now.

    I'm waiting on the log book, but I'm pretty sure it's the 2010 E220 CDI Coupe 2.1, auto. And the transmission does appear to affect it. There were 2 2010 E220s there that I was looking at:

    E220 CDI Manual - €280py
    E220 CDI Auto - €380py
    E220 CDI Auto Coupe - €570py

    Exact same engine in all 3, same type too (CDI BlueEfficiency). Makes no sense, and anything I can read on the internet regarding this car says the emissions should be 137g/km, which puts it into the €280py band. Going to look further into it, but waiting on the log book to get the exact model. Trying to register for My Mercedes too, but don't have the VIN handy to check it. Closest I can find is the E400 Petrol coming in at 161g/km.

    Seats in mine are immaculate, no idea what type but there isn't even a blemish on the interior. Even the drivers seat shows very little usage tbh, and with 200k kms I was expecting some wear, but no, previous owner (female) looked after it well. Had someone check the car just now and they believe the scraping sound is a new brake disc just easing into itself. I'll give it a week and if it's still making noise I'll bring it back, as that was the only point I made before agreeing to purchase.

    And even the minor blemishes you'd have to look for, you can't immediately see it when checking it out. As you said, some is to be expected on a 9 year old car, but this far exceeds what I was expecting. Probably the cleanest car I've ever owned, and I owned a 02 in 08 (Galant, loved it!).

    Road tax on mine is €570, but as I said, I'm going to look into that. Don't have much hopes as it's literally challenging the government, but I'm struggling to find where they got the 167g/km from, even teh AMG versions don't go that high (most of them, some petrol ones do). I've a feeling it's like the RX7/8 where they see a sporty looking car and just up the tax because of it. Who knows! Don't even know where to start tbh, think I'll need to get an emissions test. But going to ask Mercedes for the factory reading too.

    I'm really happy to have it, I just hope it doesn't fail on me! Shouldn't with the history and care...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Is it a convertible? If so, it is probably a fair bit heavier which would raise the emissions.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Esel wrote: »
    Is it a convertible? If so, it is probably a fair bit heavier which would raise the emissions.

    Nah, standard coupe. I've sent off a few emails, but literally just now saw something saying the CO2 from the coupe is 164 g/km, which would make it correct if it was an E200 petrol.

    From the site, for the same 2010 E220 2.1L series (125):

    Estate: 175 g/km
    Saloon: 165 g/km
    Cabriolet: 168 g/km
    Coupe, but unsure which is mine:
    - E220 CDI BlueEFF SE Edition 125 2d - 134 g/km
    - E220 CDI BlueEFFICIENCY SE Edition 125 (SS) 2d - 128 g/km
    - E220 CDI BlueEFF SE Edition 125 (SS) (Pn/Rf) 2d - 128 g/km
    - E220 CDI BEFF SE Edition 125 (Pn/Rf) 2d - 134 g/km
    - E220 CDI BlueEFFICIENCY Sport 2d - 142 g/km

    Pretty sure it's the first one I have, or the 5th. They're the only CDI E220 models that fit, but none of them are in the 157-170 g/km. I'm at a loss. Even registered for the Mercedes website hoping it would narrow down the model, but nope.

    Edit: (SS) is Start/Stop, plus added a couple more to the list of coupes I could find. The highest I could find was 155 g/km and that was an auto 7-speed tiptronic, which I don't have, or the ones with the tiptronic or panoramic sunroof are higher in general, and I don't have them.

    It may sound silly complaining about €200-300, it's more principle at this stage. Can't be leaving the gubbernment off like we did with the tax on the RX7/8's!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Nah, standard coupe. I've sent off a few emails, but literally just now saw something saying the CO2 from the coupe is 164 g/km, which would make it correct if it was an E200 petrol.

    From the site, for the same 2010 E220 2.1L series (125):

    Estate: 175 g/km
    Saloon: 165 g/km
    Cabriolet: 168 g/km
    Coupe, but unsure which is mine:
    - E220 CDI BlueEFF SE Edition 125 2d - 134 g/km
    - E220 CDI BlueEFFICIENCY SE Edition 125 (SS) 2d - 128 g/km
    - E220 CDI BlueEFF SE Edition 125 (SS) (Pn/Rf) 2d - 128 g/km
    - E220 CDI BEFF SE Edition 125 (Pn/Rf) 2d - 134 g/km
    - E220 CDI BlueEFFICIENCY Sport 2d - 142 g/km

    Pretty sure it's the first one I have, or the 5th. They're the only CDI E220 models that fit, but none of them are in the 157-170 g/km. I'm at a loss. Even registered for the Mercedes website hoping it would narrow down the model, but nope.

    Edit: (SS) is Start/Stop, plus added a couple more to the list of coupes I could find. The highest I could find was 155 g/km and that was an auto 7-speed tiptronic, which I don't have, or the ones with the tiptronic or panoramic sunroof are higher in general, and I don't have them.

    It may sound silly complaining about €200-300, it's more principle at this stage. Can't be leaving the gubbernment off like we did with the tax on the RX7/8's!

    On the drivers door piller, just undeneath the locking bracket, there is a black sticker, and it contains the VIN ( Vehicle Identification Number),, write down this Nr, then google "VIN Unlocker" and enter your VIN Nrs in the field indicated. Click "Enter",,,and in a minute you will have the complete Mercedes Benz specifications for your particular Merc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭steveshort


    When the 212 chassis was released the 4 cylinder cars where fitted with the older 5 speed transmission.
    The 6 and 8 cylinder cars where fitted with the new 7 speed transmission, this was then added to the 4 cylinder cars around 2010 though it may have been later. This reduced the co2 emissions and therefore the road tax.
    The easy was to tell what transmission is fitted is by the gear selector, the 5 speed has a shift leaver on the consul and the 7 speed has a column shifter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    jmreire wrote: »
    On the drivers door piller, just undeneath the locking bracket, there is a black sticker, and it contains the VIN ( Vehicle Identification Number),, write down this Nr, then google "VIN Unlocker" and enter your VIN Nrs in the field indicated. Click "Enter",,,and in a minute you will have the complete Mercedes Benz specifications for your particular Merc.

    I googled, but everything looks dodgy so didn't continue.
    steveshort wrote: »
    When the 212 chassis was released the 4 cylinder cars where fitted with the older 5 speed transmission.
    The 6 and 8 cylinder cars where fitted with the new 7 speed transmission, this was then added to the 4 cylinder cars around 2010 though it may have been later. This reduced the co2 emissions and therefore the road tax.
    The easy was to tell what transmission is fitted is by the gear selector, the 5 speed has a shift leaver on the consul and the 7 speed has a column shifter.

    Pretty sure it's the 5 speed, that might explain some of it.

    Motortax got back to me stating it's down for 163 g/km and to contact Revenue for more info. Might do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I googled, but everything looks dodgy so didn't continue.



    Pretty sure it's the 5 speed, that might explain some of it.

    Motortax got back to me stating it's down for 163 g/km and to contact Revenue for more info. Might do that.

    If you like, send me the VIN details by PM, and I'll sort it for you. It's the only cast iron way to get the 100% details about that car.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭covey123


    Picked her up yesterday.

    Well wear,had a look at that online after you mentioned it, great looking car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭covey123


    It may sound silly complaining about €200-300, it's more principle at this stage. Can't be leaving the gubbernment off like we did with the tax on the RX7/8's!

    Not at all,if you saved that its close to the price of a yearly service,or if you hold onto the car for 4-5 years you're up at a grand saved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭covey123


    Picked her up yesterday.

    So how is the car going for you?all good I hope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    covey123 wrote: »
    So how is the car going for you?all good I hope

    I wish. I had it a week and it's been back with him since. AC not working, drinking coolant and a fault on the air intake: P200A-78 & P200A-28. I should have it back tomorrow morning...

    And they very graciously gave me a replacement car in the meantime. A Nissan Note... At least I now know that I still hate Nissans!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I wish. I had it a week and it's been back with him since. AC not working, drinking coolant and a fault on the air intake: P200A-78 & P200A-28. I should have it back tomorrow morning...

    And they very graciously gave me a replacement car in the meantime. A Nissan Note... At least I now know that I still hate Nissans!

    Better you discover everything and anything now while it's under guarantee than afterwards,,,,,,,I know that it's a bit of a downer though just after getting the car. Hopefully after this, it will be all plain and enjoyable "sailing"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    A downer it was, I travelled 3 hour to a wedding and it broke my balls to do it in a Note... I've my own mechanic on standby for near the end of the warranty to check everything included on the list of what's covered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


    A downer it was, I travelled 3 hour to a wedding and it broke my balls to do it in a Note... I've my own mechanic on standby for near the end of the warranty to check everything included on the list of what's covered.

    Yeah that was some downer all right....expecting to arrive in a mercedes Bens....and turning up in a note........
    Still, after it gets sorted, it will give you many pleasurable hours of motoring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭covey123


    Sorry to hear that,but as said above at least its better those issues showed when still under warranty,hope it all works out for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I really hope it works out too, I can't afford another one until this is paid off (5 years). Should be collecting later today, waiting on the 'man' to re-gas the AC.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Maybenever


    BM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Actually, while I'm here, can anyone recommend a good upgrade for the head unit? It's pretty basic, just a 6 CD player, but I'd love to have USB support. Is this something that can be done, or does it require a new Merc radio? Can USB be added after the fact?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,129 ✭✭✭kirving


    Have you a connection in the centre console at all? Mine (2013)can take a USB key on the end of a cable, or SD card in the head unit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Have you a connection in the centre console at all? Mine (2013)can take a USB key on the end of a cable, or SD card in the head unit.

    Unfortunately not, seems to be the basic radio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Unfortunately not, seems to be the basic radio.

    I'm not speaking about the head unit etc, but more to get an update on how the car is going for you now, as you have it for awhile. Did you manage to get all the niggle's ironed out? Are you happy with it?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Maybenever


    Unfortunately not, seems to be the basic radio.

      Can't you Bluetooth or aux in?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUCHLrUtm6o

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXF3T9WImaI


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    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


      jmreire wrote: »
      I'm not speaking about the head unit etc, but more to get an update on how the car is going for you now, as you have it for awhile. Did you manage to get all the niggle's ironed out? Are you happy with it?:D

      Oh I'm very happy with it. All seems good for now, but going to give it to my mechanic with a couple of weeks left on the warranty for a one over. But so far so good. Such a lovely car to drive! Not suited for the city though, getting 6.5l/100km on primary roads (no motorways) but averaging 11.2l/100km if stuck in traffic/city!

      And the aux was found. I completely glassed over it when I saw it, thinking it was a Mercedes port for something, just didn't look like a normal aux port. So delighted now I don't have to listen to the same 6 CDs over and over!


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


      Oh I'm very happy with it. All seems good for now, but going to give it to my mechanic with a couple of weeks left on the warranty for a one over. But so far so good. Such a lovely car to drive! Not suited for the city though, getting 6.5l/100km on primary roads (no motorways) but averaging 11.2l/100km if stuck in traffic/city!

      And the aux was found. I completely glassed over it when I saw it, thinking it was a Mercedes port for something, just didn't look like a normal aux port. So delighted now I don't have to listen to the same 6 CDs over and over!

      Right on all count's !!! At least you caught the faults while there is still a guarantee, because, generally they are a trouble-free car. Any one I know who has one, are very happy with them...this was one of the reasons I decided to take the plunge myself, and so far....delighted with it. As you point out, it's a pleasure to drive, but not so much in the city, even with the Automatic transmission. And given it's size, and the size of parking spaces generally, even with the proximity sensors, you need to be that bit extra carefull. Have you tried the Park-Assist function yet? I bought a TomTom Navigation unit and fitted it to mine....it fits right into the radio space ( can be put on the windscreen too, of course) and it work's fine. The sound system is very good too. I presume that mine will have the same AUX port that your's has.....must check it out. Considering the size and weight of the car..it's quite good on fuel consumption, overall. I'm happy with mine at any rate, So enjoy !!!:D:D:D


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


      Oh I'm very happy with it. All seems good for now, but going to give it to my mechanic with a couple of weeks left on the warranty for a one over. But so far so good. Such a lovely car to drive! Not suited for the city though, getting 6.5l/100km on primary roads (no motorways) but averaging 11.2l/100km if stuck in traffic/city!

      And the aux was found. I completely glassed over it when I saw it, thinking it was a Mercedes port for something, just didn't look like a normal aux port. So delighted now I don't have to listen to the same 6 CDs over and over!

      After reading your post re AUX port....I went looking for the one in mine...no sign of it, anywhere :cool: Can you describe where the one in your's is? ( pic would be even better, if you can manage it....Thanks.;)


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


      jmreire wrote: »
      After reading your post re AUX port....I went looking for the one in mine...no sign of it, anywhere :cool: Can you describe where the one in your's is? ( pic would be even better, if you can manage it....Thanks.;)

      Here ya go. The white plastic around it threw me until one of the lads pointed it out. Works perfect, but as usual with aux the volume is about 50% lower, so be careful if you change from aux to the radio or something else. Deafened myself with it.

      I don't have parking sensors, and I honestly don't mind. I don't want to rely on it. Mine's only 5cm longer than a 08 Avensis, and 2cm wider. But being extra selective with the parking regardless. Luckily, the new job is on the outskirts of the city with a private car park, and proper spacing.

      Does yours stay hot long after parking? I've noticed mine could still be warm 2-3 hours later. Went to the cinema one night, 2.5 hours, heating was more or less instant after coming back out (just before midnight). Temp gauge went pretty quick up to the normal 80ish. And not on the bonnet, over the front driver's wheel, which is great to keep me arse warm when smoking!


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


      The pre face-lift coupe is a stunner. Much nicer than the face-lift imo.

      Saloon pre face-lift shows its age in some trims conversely


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    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


      M5 wrote: »
      The pre face-lift coupe is a stunner. Much nicer than the face-lift imo.

      Saloon pre face-lift shows its age in some trims conversely

      I've the pre, and I agree. Something mean about it. And trim is good in mine, still looks modern thanks to a black and silver theme. Bit plasticy, but good quality plastic in fairness. Still leagues ahead of the "regular" cars, like that horrible Note...
      jmreire wrote: »
      After reading your post re AUX port....I went looking for the one in mine...no sign of it, anywhere :cool: Can you describe where the one in your's is? ( pic would be even better, if you can manage it....Thanks.;)

      Here ya go. The white plastic around it threw me until one of the lads pointed it out. Works perfect, but as usual with aux the volume is about 50% lower, so be careful if you change from aux to the radio or something else. Deafened myself with it.

      I don't have parking sensors, and I honestly don't mind. I don't want to rely on it. It's only 5cm longer than a 08 Avensis, and 2cm wider. But being extra selective with the parking regardless. Luckily, the new job is on the outskirts of the city with a private car park, and proper spacing.

      Does yours stay hot long after parking? I've noticed mine could still be warm 2-3 hours later. Went to the cinema one night, 2.5 hours, heating was more or less instant after coming back out (just before midnight). Temp gauge went pretty quick up to the normal 80ish. And not on the bonnet, over the front driver's wheel, which is great to keep me arse warm when smoking!


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


      I've the pre, and I agree. Something mean about it. And trim is good in mine, still looks modern thanks to a black and silver theme. Bit plasticy, but good quality plastic in fairness. Still leagues ahead of the "regular" cars, like that horrible Note...



      Here ya go. The white plastic around it threw me until one of the lads pointed it out. Works perfect, but as usual with aux the volume is about 50% lower, so be careful if you change from aux to the radio or something else. Deafened myself with it.

      I don't have parking sensors, and I honestly don't mind. I don't want to rely on it. It's only 5cm longer than a 08 Avensis, and 2cm wider. But being extra selective with the parking regardless. Luckily, the new job is on the outskirts of the city with a private car park, and proper spacing.

      Does yours stay hot long after parking? I've noticed mine could still be warm 2-3 hours later. Went to the cinema one night, 2.5 hours, heating was more or less instant after coming back out (just before midnight). Temp gauge went pretty quick up to the normal 80ish. And not on the bonnet, over the front driver's wheel, which is great to keep me arse warm when smoking!

      There is a small auxiliary heater in the car... a few mins ( very few) and it's up and running...great in winter mornings, when the cold delays the normal engine warm up. Worked fine in mine for the 1st year, then stopped. iCarsoft shows a fault in a relay in a unit..the problem is that to repair this unit, you practically have to dismantle the dash completely....so I will have to suffer on for a few mins longer in the cold.....but even at that its quick to heat up anyway. Thats very strange that your parking sensors are not working....I find them very handy. You should get them fixed under the guarantee . even if you never use them....takes a bit of getting used to the rear ones.....you see them in the rear view mirror. Thanks for the pic, but it's not opening fully,,,maybe the 1st inch or so. Now this could be down to bad internet here at the moment...none at all yesterday, and this morning very slow.....maybe it will improve as the day goes on. Just try persuading my Wife that is only a few centimeters bigger than an Avensis........:D:D:D As time goes on, you will discover many more little details about the car, which makes it memorable to drive....now I can understand why Mercedes Benz owners stick with them


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


      Have you a connection in the centre console at all? Mine (2013)can take a USB key on the end of a cable, or SD card in the head unit.

      This model ( the W212) was introduced in 2009, then upgraded in 2013, and again in 2016,,new version out now in 2019, so basically every 3 years seems to be the standard, Maybe that explain's why the 2009-2012 model does not have the center console AUX-USB etc connections?. As Potential Monke pointed out, the AUX in his and mine, is "hidden" in the glove compartment.. even using the manual you would be a long time looking for it, and the one in mine is diagonally opposite to the one in Potential Monkes car. His is on the same side as the 12v socket, mine is on the opposite side. I'm not too familiar with the entertainment system....basically change the CD's when I need to, and tune the Radio to pre set channels...and that's it. So basically, you need a jack input cable which connects to a USB stick / or card reader?


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


      Glad you found yours, strange it's on the opposite side! I suppose it's because you have the W212 and I have the C207. No reverse sensors at all on mine. Doesn't have a lot of extra really, which I'm ok with for now. Don't want to spoil myself too early! But I do have the fancy seat belts that come to you.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


      Ah yes, that would explain it OK ( the AUX Port anyway ) The Coupe is a lovely looking car !!! would not mind having one myself at some stage. Completely different lay out inside seating wise, and looks really well,,,it's set up as a very comfortable 4 seater ( but can seat 5 too)
      We will see what the future brings for me. I will have it 2 years next January, and completely happy with it, but if I got a good deal with a Coupe, I would go for it.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭covey123


      jmreire wrote: »
      it's set up as a very comfortable 4 seater ( but can seat 5 too)

      Is there 3 seat belts in the back thought there was only 2?


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


      covey123 wrote: »
      Is there 3 seat belts in the back thought there was only 2?

      You could well be right covey,,,,,I went looking at one ( Coupe) and as it was only for a few minute's, I'm a little hazy about the details. But I do remember the configuration with the rear seat's ( very impressive, luxurious ) with the wide "table" between the seats, and assumed that it would fold away, to fit a 3rd passenger in the back. Maybe Monke can update us?


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


      4 total! 2 in front, 2 in the back. Center console is all plastic and doesn't fold away. I'm ok with 4, more than 2 in the back would be cramped anyway with the shape of the car. Just as comfortable in the back I'm told!


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


      4 total! 2 in front, 2 in the back. Center console is all plastic and doesn't fold away. I'm ok with 4, more than 2 in the back would be cramped anyway with the shape of the car. Just as comfortable in the back I'm told!

      I'm sure that it is !!! As far as I know, its based on the "C" type chassis, which would be slightly smaller that the "E", so it's a little bit smaller. Nonetheless, it still has plenty of space in the back for two fairly big adults. ( you can let us know, as soon as you allow some one else to drive, and you will be back-seat driver........;);););)


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


      Anyone know if it's possible to upgrade the dim/full headlights to LED? I know very little of this, so I don't know if it's just a bulb replacement or a kit I need, and if it's a kit if it's even available? I tried to Google, and prices were coming back at over €1k for a single headlamp!

      Also, it's the small quality of life improvements that make this car. I'm in awe of the seat belts that come to you, due to it being so far behind the seat. Controlling the audio with the little dial button on the center console, all stalks being on the 1 side (granted, the wrong side, the left, but it's not a Jap car so expected), only 2 stalks total (1 for cruise, the second for lights and wipers), lights that automatically go on when it gets dark enough, auto-wipers, washer jets that actually spread the water instead of a single jet from each, the auto handbrake that doesn't actually engage but stops you from rolling back... All things I never previously had!

      But, she does not like city driving at all. Getting about 20 mpg city driving, about 40 on primary/secondary roads, and a heft 48+ on motorways. She's also not designed for running as cheap as possible, which suits me fine. I'll pay the extra for the pure driving pleasure I'm getting!

      As long as she lasts the 5 years for me! And I'm already looking at my next car, which will be another Mercedes Coupe, but one with a bigger engine (and still somehow cheaper tax).


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