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Car drives through crowd in Dundalk Graveyard

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    #122
    BarryD2
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    mloc123 wrote: »
    That is it? dangerous driving? The same charge you would get for doing over 160kph on a motorway? GTFO

    ??? A few penalty points and/or a driving ban? Which would mean absolutely nothing as these sort of laws and penalties are just simply ignored by people like this.


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    #123
    Mr Magnolia
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,429 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    https://www.talkofthetown.ie/man-charged-with-dangerous-driving-over-incident-at-the-blessing-of-the-graves/
    A 28-year-old man has appeared in court in Drogheda this morning in relation to the incident at the Blessing of the Graves ceremony at St Patrick’s Cemetery in Dundalk on Sunday.

    James McDonagh, with an address at Glenmore Park, Muirhevnamor, Dundalk, Co Louth, was charged with dangerous driving and the unlawful use of a vehicle without consent of its owner at the graveyard on July 21st.

    He was remanded in custody to appear before Cloverhill District Court next Tuesday.

    An elderly man remains in a serious condition in hospital in Dublin after being struck by a vehicle which sped through the crowd at the annual patrun. A number of other people received minor injuries while several cars were damaged in the terrifying incident.

    Quelle surprise.


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    #124
    Odelay
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    Mr Magnolia wrote: »
    https://www.talkofthetown.ie/man-charged-with-dangerous-driving-over-incident-at-the-blessing-of-the-graves/



    Quelle surprise.


    How the hell did ye know it was going to be a traveler that did it????


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    #125
    Eric Cartman
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    Odelay wrote: »
    How the hell did ye know it was going to be a traveler that did it????

    its a violent crime in dundalk that required a massive lack of education.


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    #126
    tayto lover
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    Odelay wrote: »
    How the hell did ye know it was going to be a traveler that did it????

    Graveyard, funeral, wedding. Any trouble at any of those is usually about Travelers.


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    #127
    SEPT 23 1989
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    McDonagh:rolleyes:


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    #128
    Omackeral
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    If it's a crime and the surname is McDonagh/Ward/Cash/Joyce/ Connors/Hand then it's more than likely Travellers. That's in my experience anyway.


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    #129
    Deebles McBeebles
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    Odelay wrote: »
    How the hell did ye know it was going to be a traveler that did it????

    They cause trouble at that mass every year apparently. Its usually reported the next day. Gardaí had a helicopter at it one year.


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    #130
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,283 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    They cause trouble at that mass every year apparently. Its usually reported the next day. Gardaí had a helicopter at it one year.

    imagine having a group of people around that are so violent and hell bent on criminality youre not even being able to have a ceremony in a graveyard to pay respect for the dead without a garda helicopter or people ending up in hospital,

    and then imagine that there are people who defend that group.


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    #131
    Dyr
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    It's not ISIS..it's Joyces!


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    #132
    ED E
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    the unlawful use of a vehicle

    Hadn't heard that one before, seems like its probably what the brits call a "TWOC" or Taking without consent.


    Poor lad just wanted to show dead Aunty Mary his new motor he just nicked.


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    #133
    bigroad
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    Is there no dangerous driving causing serious harm charge.


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    #134
    selectamatic
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    blinding wrote: »
    Did the Guards not take the top of him to make sure he did not have a suicide vest on ? He was behaving like a terrorist . Terrorising People .

    Na it's believed he removed it while shouting
    "I'll fight any man"

    It's kinda like shouting "Allahu akbar" except with less explosive connotations.


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    #135
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    selectamatic wrote: »
    Na it's believed he removed it while shouting
    "I'll fight any man"

    It's kinda like shouting "Allahu akbar" except with less explosive connotations.
    Thats Traveller for “ Allah Akbar “

    They are Mad Ted !


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    #136
    sligojoek
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    If it's a crime and the surname is McDonagh/Ward/Cash/Joyce/ Connors/Hand then it's more than likely Travellers. That's in my experience anyway.
    Sweeney and McGinley up this way. Google those names and Sligo. No need to add ,"Court" to the search. Google does the rest.


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    #137
    tayto lover
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    selectamatic wrote: »
    Na it's believed he removed it while shouting
    "I'll fight any man"

    It's kinda like shouting "Allahu akbar" except with less explosive connotations.

    “ Shyte in a bucket “ is much scarier.


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    #138
    Turner
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    bigroad wrote: »
    Is there no dangerous driving causing serious harm charge.

    Endangerment.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/act/26/section/13/enacted/en/html#sec13

    Gardai cant charge with that immediately, they need permission from the DPP after submitting a file.

    The dangerous driving is a holding charge.


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    #139
    sligojoek
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    Probably waiting to see how the victim fares out as well.


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    #140
    juneg
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    sligojoek wrote: »
    Probably waiting to see how the victim fares out as well.

    Jesus the poor man


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    #141
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Still can't find anything on how that poor old man is getting on. Hopefully no news is good news.


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    #142
    Mr Magnolia
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    He's very ill after-going surgery in the care of the Beaumont. Don't want to say much on a public forum but will post any worthwhile update as they arise or as I hear them.

    May he get well soon.


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    #143
    splinter65
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    Mr Magnolia wrote: »
    He's very ill after-going surgery in the care of the Beaumont. Don't want to say much on a public forum but will post any worthwhile update as they arise or as I hear them.

    May he get well soon.

    Jesus it’s disgraceful that people can’t congregate at such a peaceful respectful ceremony and not be safe from a knuckle dragging ape who was probably off his head on something or other.
    The Gardai dropped the ball on this. If there was trouble other years then they needed to have had a presence there on Sunday.
    This has terrified my elderly mother.


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    #144
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Jesus it’s disgraceful that people can’t congregate at such a peaceful respectful ceremony and not be safe from a knuckle dragging ape who was probably off his head on something or other.
    The Gardai dropped the ball on this. If there was trouble other years then they needed to have had a presence there on Sunday.
    This has terrified my elderly mother.

    They did have a presence in the past so I'm unsure as to why they didn't this year. Surely they didn't think "ah, it'll be grand".

    Would be less costly to us all if they just took the ringleaders out of commission for the day.

    I still can't believe I'm talking about an open air mass in a cemetery in these terms.


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    #145
    tayto lover
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    splinter65 wrote: »
    Jesus it’s disgraceful that people can’t congregate at such a peaceful respectful ceremony and not be safe from a knuckle dragging ape who was probably off his head on something or other.
    The Gardai dropped the ball on this. If there was trouble other years then they needed to have had a presence there on Sunday.
    This has terrified my elderly mother.

    There were Garda about but this lad took someone’s car from inside the cemetery and their 9 year old child had to jump from it and luckily wasn’t injured. There’s not much the Garda could have done about that in fairness.


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    #146
    splinter65
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    There were Garda about but this lad took someone’s car from inside the cemetery and their 9 year old child had to jump from it and luckily wasn’t injured. There’s not much the Garda could have done about that in fairness.

    I suppose.


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    #147
    Mr Magnolia
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,429 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    Mr Magnolia wrote: »
    He's very ill after-going surgery in the care of the Beaumont. Don't want to say much on a public forum but will post any worthwhile update as they arise or as I hear them.

    May he get well soon.

    There's more detail public now. He had a bleed on the brain which was operated on:

    https://www.talkofthetown.ie/man-struck-by-speeding-car-at-blessing-of-the-graves-recovering-following-brain-surgery/


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    #148
    368100
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    There were Garda about but this lad took someone’s car from inside the cemetery and their 9 year old child had to jump from it and luckily wasn’t injured. There’s not much the Garda could have done about that in fairness.

    Has anyone heard of a motive? Or was it just his idea of fun?


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    #149
    tayto lover
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    368100 wrote: »
    Has anyone heard of a motive? Or was it just his idea of fun?

    Probably something something culture or something.


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    #150
    lawlolawl
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    368100 wrote: »
    Has anyone heard of a motive? Or was it just his idea of fun?

    Some of their usual fued nonsense I'd imagine.

    You know, the kind of stuff that civilization moved on from centuries ago.


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    #151
    Deebles McBeebles
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    Probably something something culture or something.

    Caught a whiff of unprotected copper pipe.


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