Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

blinding

Harika wrote: »

And those 83% excluded strictly a no deal Brexit, so go on with it and take Mays deal. It is not the EU that holds the UK back.

Its MPs that lied to get Elected that are stopping Brexit . They signed up to the Conservative / Labour party Manifestos to respect the Brexit Referendum i.e. To leave the Eu . These MPs are not Democrats and without Democracy there is No Freedom .

Without Democracy there is No Freedom .

Guy:Incognito

blinding wrote: »

You do realise the Vote for Brexit was 52% followed by a General Election where 83% voted for parties that said they would Respect the Democratic Referendum Result for Brexit .

Without Democracy there is No freedom .

Do you just get a catchphrase and keep running with it? How many times do you use it before you move on?


None of what you said has anything to do with what I posted. Youre just puttin gup words in the hope no one will question it. I asked you about Farages' tweet , without any sense of irony apparently , where he says that Ursula von der Leyen being voted in by the EU has no legitimacy, despite the fact the vote was 52% for. What are your thoughts on this? An actual answer if you dont mind, not a few lines of unrelated waffle to deflect .

blinding

Auguste Comte wrote: »

Because a second "binding" referendum to cement the original "non binding" vote now that the details have been teased out, would be anti democratic ?

None of the Conservative Party , Brexit Party or even the Labour Party are calling for another Brexit referendum .
Its as if they understand that the British people want their Democracy and Freedom respected .

blinding

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Do you just get a catchphrase and keep running with it? How many times do you use it before you move on?


None of what you said has anything to do with what I posted. Youre just puttin gup words in the hope no one will question it. I asked you about Farages' tweet , without any sense of irony apparently , where he says that Ursula von der Leyen being voted in by the EU has no legitimacy, despite the fact the vote was 52% for. What are your thoughts on this? An actual answer if you dont mind, not a few lines of unrelated waffle to deflect .

Regarding the German wan ! There was only One Candidate . Thats the kind of stuff Putin would pull = Not actual democracy . An election with One Candidate . Democracy Eu style !

Harika

blinding wrote: »

Regarding the German wan ! There was only One Candidate . Thats the kind of stuff Putin would pull = Not actual democracy . An election with One Candidate . Democracy Eu style !

That was a confirmatory vote, less than 50% would have meant to reject her.

FrancieBrady

blinding wrote: »

None of the Conservative Party , Brexit Party or even the Labour Party are calling for another Brexit referendum .
Its as if they understand that the British people want their Democracy and Freedom respected .

The problem with 'democracy' lies within the British system.

The majority don't want to leave without a deal. It is the British who cannot agree on the deal that is the problem.

Guy:Incognito

blinding wrote: »

Regarding the German wan ! There was only One Candidate . Thats the kind of stuff Putin would pull = Not actual democracy . An election with One Candidate . Democracy Eu style !

See, ****e talk. They could accept or reject her. They accepted by the same percentage as people voted for Brexit when they had 2 choices, accept or reject.

Who voted for Farage to be party leader btw?

Auguste Comte

blinding wrote: »

None of the Conservative Party , Brexit Party or even the Labour Party are calling for another Brexit referendum .
Its as if they understand that the British people want their Democracy and Freedom respected .

So a binding vote now that the electorate knows what brexit looks like would be anti democratic in your view?

blinding

Harika wrote: »

That was a confirmatory vote, less than 50% would have meant to reject her.

But there was not a Democratic Competition for Merkel's Pick .

= Not Actual Democracy .

One Candidate “ Elections “:eek::eek::eek: Even Putin puts on a cosmetic show of having a competition .

Merkel is not even bothered to be Leader of her own Party these days :eek::eek::eek:

Kidchameleon

They voted to leave the EU. The ballot paper was clear. It makes me sick to hear people say the British didnt know what they were voting for. They are highly educated and fair play to them for making the right decision. The Irish are pussies and would never do it. Itll take the inevitable crumble of the EU for us to leave. Cannot wait.

Auguste Comte

Kidchameleon wrote: »

They voted to leave the EU. The ballot paper was clear. It makes me sick to hear people say the British didnt know what they were voting for. They are highly educated and fair play to them for making the right decision. The Irish are pussies and would never do it. Itll take the inevitable crumble of the EU for us to leave. Cannot wait.

Did they vote to leave with or without a deal?

FrancieBrady

Kidchameleon wrote: »

They voted to leave the EU.

There is nothing stopping them doing this...only themselves.

blinding

Auguste Comte wrote: »

So a binding vote now that the electorate knows what brexit looks like would be anti democratic in your view?

Where is the demand for this second referendum . Neither the Conservatives , Brexit Party or even the Labour Party are in favour of another Brexit Referendum .

The British people expect their Democracy to be Respected . They are not Irish .

Without Democracy there is No Freedom .

blinding

Auguste Comte wrote: »

Did they vote to leave with or without a deal?

They Certainly Voted ; Not to stay in the Eu .

FrancieBrady

blinding wrote: »

The British people expect their Democracy to be Respected . .

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It was. Article 50 was issued. A deal was done. And they are STILL in the EU. Why is that?

Auguste Comte

blinding wrote: »

They Certainly Voted ; Not to stay in the Eu .

Why are they afraid to leave so?

Guy:Incognito

blinding wrote: »

Where is the demand for this second referendum . Neither the Conservatives , Brexit Party or even the Labour Party are in favour of another Brexit Referendum .

The British people expect their Democracy to be Respected . They are not Irish .

Without Democracy there is No Freedom .

I see you're now going with the "ignore it" option with regard Farage's bull**** now, yeah? Just hoping the difficult questions stop getting asked.

"Just keep waffling and the people will get bored"

Kidchameleon

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There is nothing stopping them doing this...only themselves.

Yup

blinding

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It was. Article 50 was issued. A deal was done. And they are STILL in the EU. Why is that?

Because a large number of Conservative / Labour MPs are not Democrats :eek::eek::eek:

Why does it surprise no one that Eu-Philes are Not Democrats:eek::eek::eek:

These same Anti-Democratic MPs are scared sh!tless of a General Election . Hardly unsurprising considering they are not Democrats !

rob316

rob316 wrote: »

I'm hoping our business isn't too badly effected, we import the majority of our products from the UK but I have had contingencies in place for a while with alternative european suppliers. No deal is looking increasingly likely.
So many UK companies I will have had great relationships with for years will be gone in a stroke, such a shame.

And this very important view does not get enough airtime, but is widely shared. It's a microcosm across many businesses in Ireland and Britain for the very reason why the ECSC/EEC was created in the first place: if people are trading with each other they tend to build up friendships and interdependencies and thus have a strong interest in avoiding war or hostility between their respective power blocs/countries.

Guy:Incognito

blinding wrote: »

The British people expect their Democracy to be Respected . .

.

Who voted for Farage to be the party leader?

Kidchameleon

Auguste Comte wrote: »

Why are they afraid to leave so?

The person who ended up in charge of leaving didnt do her job properly

FrancieBrady

blinding wrote: »

Because a large number of Conservative / Labour MPs are not Democrats :eek::eek::eek:

Why does it surprise no one that Eu-Philes are Not Democrats:eek::eek::eek:

These same Anti-Democratic MPs are scared sh!tless of a General Election . Hardly unsurprising considering they are not Democrats !

So the Democratic deficit is in Britain...thanks for that.

Kidchameleon

Auguste Comte wrote: »

Did they vote to leave with or without a deal?

They voted to leave. A deal or lack thereof was not voted on. They should have left in March, Teresa May doesnt respect democracy

blinding

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I see you're now going with the "ignore it" option with regard Farage's bull**** now, yeah? Just hoping the difficult questions stop getting asked.

"Just keep waffling and the people will get bored"

There was One Candidate :eek: One Candidate :eek:

That is Not Democracy . If the Eu was doing the Brexit referendum ; Option One would be stay in the Eu followed by Option Two ; Also stay in the Eu .

Eu-Philes and Real Democracy are Strangers !:eek:

storker

Kidchameleon wrote: »

They voted to leave the EU. The ballot paper was clear. It makes me sick to hear people say the British didnt know what they were voting for. They are highly educated and fair play to them for making the right decision. The Irish are pussies and would never do it. Itll take the inevitable crumble of the EU for us to leave. Cannot wait.

I've lived and worked with English people and never had any problems with them but their standard of education was shocking, particularly about their own country. I remember the referendum campaign and the true impact of leaving only really started to rear its head afterwards, with the Brixteers in denial about it to this day.

Most British voters did not know what they were voting for, and this is underlined by a complete failure in two years to even define what Brexit means. We're still waiting. Knew what they were voting for? Don't make me laugh. Great jingoism, sh1t analysis, and if you imagine your insults make your nonsense more persuasive, then you're an even bigger fool that your posts already make you appear to be.

Guy:Incognito

blinding wrote: »

There was One Candidate :eek: One Candidate :eek:

That is Not Democracy . If the Eu was doing the Brexit referendum ; Option One would be stay in the Eu followed by Option Two ; Also stay in the Eu .

Eu-Philes and Real Democracy are Strangers !:eek:

See, you just keep waffling. They had a choice, accept or reject her. 48% of them chose to reject her. How did they do that if there was no choice?

It was as legitimate as the Brexit vote. Farage is an undemocratic fascist.

Who voted for him as party leader?

blinding

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So the Democratic deficit is in Britain...thanks for that.

Eu-Phile Anti Democratic MPs that fraudulently got themselves elected .

Respect Democracy and the Freedom that comes with it .

Guy:Incognito

blinding wrote: »

Eu-Phile Anti Democratic MPs that fraudulently got themselves elected .

Respect Democracy and the Freedom that comes with it .

Leave campaign that broke the law. Democracy?

storker

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It was. Article 50 was issued. A deal was done. And they are STILL in the EU. Why is that?

Silly question...it's the evil jackbooted EU. No wait, it's the "traitors" in the house of commons. Actually...it's lizard people...yep, definitely lizard people...or aliens...