Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

ohnonotgmail

Tasfasdf wrote: »

:pac: funny

like the rest of the far right lovers here you ask for evidence and then ignore it when provided. the only word i can think of to describe that is tr.....

Tasfasdf

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

like the rest of the far right lovers here you ask for evidence and then ignore it when provided. the only word i can think of to describe that is tr.....

I can see why the looney left would consider that "evidence" just like how Trump is a russian agent

nullzero

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

no, no, no. again you didnt read the post you responded to so i wont be bothering you further.

Hilarious.

You have no proof and now you're attempting to make me look unreasonable when I ask you for proof.

ohnonotgmail

Tasfasdf wrote: »

I can see why the looney left would consider that "evidence" just like how Trump is a russian agent

so quotes from trump about dictators are not proof that he supports dictators. what exactly would constitute proof?

nullzero

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

like the rest of the far right lovers here you ask for evidence and then ignore it when provided. the only word i can think of to describe that is tr.....

You have provided no evidence here of anything.

ohnonotgmail

nullzero wrote: »

Hilarious.

You have no proof and now you're attempting to make me look unreasonable when I ask you for proof.

anybody who supports violence against peaceful protesters is unreasonable.

ohnonotgmail

nullzero wrote: »

You have provided no evidence here of anything.

i provided quotes from trump himself in which he supports dictators doing dictator things.

nullzero

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

anybody who supports violence against peaceful protesters is unreasonable.

Fair enough.

Your quandary is proving that there are "Fascist Troops" on the ground sent there by Donald Trump.

ohnonotgmail

nullzero wrote: »

Fair enough.

Your quandary is proving that there are "Fascist Troops" on the ground sent there by Donald Trump.

my quandary is trying to have a rational discussion with somebody who thinks violence against protesters is ok. i dont know what I was thinking.

joeguevara

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so quotes from trump about dictators are not proof that he supports dictators. what exactly would constitute proof?

I actually did a media bias check on the publication and it came out with flying colours. While it is considered to use moderately loaded words on occasion, it has never failed a fact check. The only reason, I can assume it was found to be funny by some posters is that he was praising the actions of some dictators e.g. philipines president on drugs but that doesn't mean he loves all dictators. Is it possible that he has said bad things about dictators too and you could have an article quoting ten examples with the point being that he hates dictators?

nullzero

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i provided quotes from trump himself in which he supports dictators doing dictator things.

You provided a link to a president being diplomatic.

Plenty of American presidents have said nice things about bad people over the years.

ohnonotgmail

joeguevara wrote: »

I actually did a media bias check on the publication and it came out with flying colours. While it is considered to use moderately loaded words on occasion, it has never failed a fact check. The only reason, I can assume it was found to be funny by some posters is that he was praising the actions of some dictators e.g. philipines president on drugs but that doesn't mean he loves all dictators. Is it possible that he has said bad things about dictators too and you could have an article quoting ten examples with the point being that he hates dictators?

well then go ahead and link to such an article. that would be a reasonable response. a response that basically consists of LOL is beyond retarded.

Eric Cartman

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i provided quotes from trump himself in which he supports dictators doing dictator things.

many US presidents have praised / said not mean things about dictators to prevent diplomatic incidents.

Our own president praised multiple dictators (Castro and Chavez)

does it make Michael D a fascist.

nullzero

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

my quandary is trying to have a rational discussion with somebody who thinks violence against protesters is ok. i dont know what I was thinking.

I never said that violence against protestors is OK.

Please quote where I stated that.

Also you still haven't provided a shred of evidence relating to these "fascist troops"of yours.

Tasfasdf

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

anybody who supports violence against peaceful protesters is unreasonable.

Then you wouldn't be a fan of Antifa would you?:rolleyes:

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm aware that China is communist... But Trump leans heavily to the right and praises leaders who suppress their opposition, that's the key point he focuses on. He enjoys military displays of force and has ran on a campaign of extreme nationalism. On top of that, the only leaders he really admires are dictators. So fascistic tendencies is a reasonable description. Anyway, not discussing this further as you don't really seem to want a discussion.

Tasfasdf wrote: »

Care to back any of that nonsense up?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

trump loves dictators

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/03/trump-xi-jinping-dictators/554810/

nullzero wrote: »

You provided a link to a president being diplomatic.

Plenty of American presidents have said nice things about bad people over the years.

I have included all the relevant posts as i know you have a problem with comprehension. a poster asked for proof that trump loves dictators. I provided such proof. and it wasn't just general praise. it was praise for specific acts that anybody who isn't a far right fanatic would find objectionable. is that clearer for you?

joeguevara

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

well then go ahead and link to such an article. that would be a reasonable response. a response that basically consists of LOL is beyond retarded.

Actually I agree with that.

ohnonotgmail

Tasfasdf wrote: »

Then you wouldn't be a fan of Antifa would you?:rolleyes:

nothing peaceful about the far right.

Tasfasdf

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

nothing peaceful about the far right.

Far right = Trump supporter?

ohnonotgmail

Tasfasdf wrote: »

Far right = Trump supporter?

there does seem to be a lot of overlap. not all trump supporters are far right but all of the far right definitely support trump. at least in the US

nullzero

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I have included all the relevant posts as i know you have a problem with comprehension. a poster asked for proof that trump loves dictators. I provided such proof. and it wasn't just general praise. it was praise for specific acts that anybody who isn't a far right fanatic would find objectionable. is that clearer for you?

I don't see this as something unique to one American president. There are plenty of examples of similar behaviour in the past by other presidents.

Can we have some proof of your Fascist troops and me supporting violence against protesters now?

I hate to bring it up but seeing you felt the need to be rude to me at the beginning of your above post I feel its only fair I ask.

1800_Ladladlad

Antifa protesters targeting and attacking reporters & live streamers now to get them out of the area in which the "protests" are in. A part of me hopes Antifa clears the area of live streams etc so that troops will cop on to this and engage with the dummies and end their tantrums.

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1288048377586884609

ohnonotgmail

nullzero wrote: »

I don't see this as something unique to one American president. There are plenty of examples of similar behaviour in the past by other presidents.

Can we have some proof of your Fascist troops and me supporting violence against protesters now?

I hate to bring it up but seeing you felt the need to be rude to me at the beginning of your above post I feel its only fair I ask.

pointing out your poor reading comprehension is not being rude. it is being honest.

nullzero

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

pointing out your poor reading comprehension is not being rude. it is being honest.

OK so me pointing out that you are being truculent and evasive won't offend you then?

So can you provide quotes from me stating that I support violence against protesters and some form of proof supporting your hypothesis that there are Fascist Troops in America?

1800_Ladladlad

The desparate logic

ohnonotgmail

nullzero wrote: »

OK, so can you provide quotes from me stating that I support violence against protesters and some form of proof supporting your hypothesis that there are Fascist Troops in America?

i could but, like i said earlier, what is the point? you wouldn't understand it.

Tasfasdf

Antifa white man stabs black Trump supporter.

https://www.rt.com/usa/495842-portland-black-trump-supporter-stabbed/

nullzero

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i could but, like i said earlier, what is the point? you wouldn't understand it.

I wouldn't understand you posting quotes of me stating I support violence against protesters?

The quotes don't exist because I never said anything like that.

There are no fascist troops in America either.

You have made claims you cannot back up and now you're scrambling to take the intellectual and moral high ground whilst doing nothing no prove what you are saying.

Biker79

Fascism, has only ever arisen during times of economic depression, when state institutions break down and food/ energy become scarce.

During the depression of the 20s/30s in the US, facism never became a problem. So why would it suddenly be a problem when Trump gets elected ? During a time when the US is one of the wealthiest countries in the world, with one of the highest standards of living, under no military threat from anyone. Also consider the system of governance is designed to prevent such an eventuality. So many checks and balances and favourable circumstances, it makes absolutely no sense.

Where it does make sense is when we consider facism as a partisan fabrication promulgated by the communists\ marxists\ leftist media and swallowed by some extraordinarily impressionable people, who cannot distinguish between libertarianism/ conservatism and fascism, nor understand the material circumstances that they live in. The motive here is political.

It is really a problem of personal development for a cohort of badly educated ( yet relatively well off ) young people, who make up the ranks of Antifa/ BLM. If they had something intelligent to say while being peaceful and respectful of private property, people might listen to them.

nullzero

Tasfasdf wrote: »

Antifa white man stabs black Trump supporter.

https://www.rt.com/usa/495842-portland-black-trump-supporter-stabbed/

Charged with felony assault and bail set at 250k

Makes a mockery of the notion that it was a cut and dry act of self defence.