Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

Brian?

Bambi wrote: »

Could you imagine if it didnt? Trump being president already caused large swathes of coastal America to go permanently bat**** insane. They'll be calling it a dictatorship if theres no election. CNN will go full Venezuela

If there’s no election, they get president Nancy Pelosi in January and her first job is to hold an election.

CtevenSrowder

Brian? wrote: »

Ok horse, what’s the Antifa uniform?

https://www.google.com/search?q=antifa&client=ms-android-huawei&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjIqPrSrODpAhXhpHEKHVVXBDsQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=360&bih=560#imgrc=Jr51Go2q5F07UM

There you are. I mean, what, 500 pages and you can't even identify what these people tend to wear?

JohnnyFlash

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

https://www.google.com/search?q=antifa&client=ms-android-huawei&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjIqPrSrODpAhXhpHEKHVVXBDsQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=360&bih=560#imgrc=Jr51Go2q5F07UM

There you are. I mean, what, 500 pages and you can't even identify what these people tend to wear?

Young Brian will be looking for more evidence than that I’m afraid. Will need to see their ANTIFA tattoos, membership cards, and 48 copies of Anti Fascist Monthly addressed directly to each of them.

CtevenSrowder

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

You'd swear Antifa killed George Floyd

Everyone knows that the police killed GF. Some have been saying how dangerous a group (oh sorry they're not a group AMIRITE! ) Antifa are, these riots have shown this yet again.

They are group out to cause destruction and havoc, and ofcourse are doing far more harm to the cause that they've latched onto. I doubt many of them give a bollox about George Floyd.

JohnnyFlash

Bambi wrote: »

Pretty much ensured that Trump will be relelected this year. Thats the thing about crazies, strategy is not their strongpoint

Weren’t you a far-left Trot sort yourself one time? There was probably a bit of physical force republicanism thrown in there for good measure as well.

Road to Damascus and all that.

splashuum

Antifa are of the most dangerous terrorist organisations of our time. They need to be dealt with with force.

MadYaker

It’s interesting to watch all the clapping seals in this thread swallow Trumps virtue signalling. He won’t do anything about antifa or any other domestic terrorist organisation.

JohnnyFlash

splashuum wrote: »

Antifa are of the most dangerous terrorist organisations of our time. They need to be dealt with with force.

Not really. Most of them are just ugly white people who are failures in life. I mean look at them:



It’s the same with the losers on the far right. Extremist politics attracts angry losers. The sort of people who will never amount to anything and know it.

Dyr

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Weren’t you a far-left Trot sort yourself one time? There was probably a bit of physical force republicanism thrown in there for good measure as well.

Road to Damascus and all that.

Odd that you think me pointing out the obvious means I approve of it.

Never been a trot in my life, busted flush for bourgeois spoofers. Like a lot of people on the left, refusing to go over the cliff becuase the loons took over the bus isn't a road to Damascus moment, its a road to Moher moment.

Expect to see a lot more of it, playing identity politics is a bad idea when you consider most peoples identity to be inherently bad.

Mr. Karate

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Not really. Most of them are just ugly white people who are failures in life. I mean look at them:



It’s the same with the losers on the far right. Extremist politics attracts angry losers. The sort of people who will never amount to anything and know it.

Antifa are dangerous in the sense that many of their members are teachers and are no doubt instilling this mentality into children. The Irish really need to start vetting their teachers since Antifa is here.

Mr. Karate

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Antifa are dangerous in the sense that many of their members are teachers and are no doubt instilling this mentality into children. The Irish really need to start vetting their teachers since Antifa is here.

I'm sure you can point to an example of teachers pushing extremism on students here? Otherwise it would seem that you're pushing paranoia.

Mr. Karate

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm sure you can point to an example of teachers pushing extremism on students here? Otherwise it would seem that you're pushing paranoia.

There was a list of them when they first started these antics and a shocking number of them were teachers. Many teachers in our school system are Marxists [including Ireland] so you really think taking this extra step isn't possible?

Mr. Karate

Mr. Karate wrote: »

There was a list of them when they first started these antics and a shocking number of them were teachers. Many teachers in our school system are Marxists [including Ireland] so you really think taking this extra step isn't possible?

You're making a claim that teachers are pushing extremism in schools... Teachers that are left wing have been there for decades too so you should be able to provide some examples. Also are you saying that somebody who subscribes to Marxism shouldn't be allowed to be a teacher?

Vetting teachers for their political views on the risk of students becoming aware... That is actually sounding pretty authoritarian.

MadYaker

Mr. Karate wrote: »

There was a list of them when they first started these antics and a shocking number of them were teachers. Many teachers in our school system are Marxists [including Ireland] so you really think taking this extra step isn't possible?

First they’re basement dwelling losers, now they’re Irish teachers? It seems to me antifa is whatever you want it to be.

I’m trying to get info from the posters here who seem to know so much about them, yet everyone has a different idea of who or what they are and the only “evidence” anyone can provide is random Twitter videos that could be literally anything.

Yet at the same time many posters here celebrated Trump claiming he’s going to designate them a terrorist organisation (something he can’t actually do) the whole thing is beyond bizarre.

Quantum Erasure

Brian? wrote: »

This is beyond parody at thus point.

Antifa are now nihilist.

I mean, say what you want about the tenets of national socialism, dude, at least it's an ethos...

MadYaker

MadYaker wrote: »

I’m trying to get info from the posters here who seem to know so much about them, yet everyone has a different idea of who or what they are and the only “evidence” anyone can provide is random Twitter videos that could be literally anything.

Plausible deniability..

Mr. Karate

Deleted User wrote: »

You're making a claim that teachers are pushing extremism in schools... Teachers that are left wing have been there for decades too so you should be able to provide some examples.

https://newspunch.com/school-teachers-antifa/

https://dailycaller.com/2017/09/01/public-school-teachers-behind-violent-antifa-group/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/antifa-leader-teacher-yvonne-felarca-arrested-at-empathy-tent-berkeley-brawl

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/09/dozens_of_public_school_teachers_involved_in_antifa.html
https://www.christiannewsalerts.com/hackers-expose-identity-of-antifa/

Also are you saying that somebody who subscribes to Marxism shouldn't be allowed to be a teacher?

Absolutely. Marxism is a dangerous ideology. Clearly they are leaving their ideology at home when they go to teach.

Vetting teachers for their political views on the risk of students becoming aware... That is actually sounding pretty authoritarian.

We're vetted for numerous things when we apply for jobs. Why should teachers be any different?

MadYaker

Mr. Karate wrote: »

https://newspunch.com/school-teachers-antifa/

https://dailycaller.com/2017/09/01/public-school-teachers-behind-violent-antifa-group/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/antifa-leader-teacher-yvonne-felarca-arrested-at-empathy-tent-berkeley-brawl

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/09/dozens_of_public_school_teachers_involved_in_antifa.html
https://www.christiannewsalerts.com/hackers-expose-identity-of-antifa/




Absolutely. Marxism is a dangerous ideology. Clearly they are leaving their ideology at home when they go to teach.



We're vetted for numerous things when we apply for jobs. Why should teachers be any different?

They shouldn’t be and aren’t any different.

Mr. Karate

Mr. Karate wrote: »

https://newspunch.com/school-teachers-antifa/

https://dailycaller.com/2017/09/01/public-school-teachers-behind-violent-antifa-group/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/antifa-leader-teacher-yvonne-felarca-arrested-at-empathy-tent-berkeley-brawl

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/09/dozens_of_public_school_teachers_involved_in_antifa.html
https://www.christiannewsalerts.com/hackers-expose-identity-of-antifa/




Absolutely. Marxism is a dangerous ideology. Clearly they are leaving their ideology at home when they go to teach.



We're vetted for numerous things when we apply for jobs. Why should teachers be any different?

Marxism isn't necessarily dangerous firstly. Secondly it's illegal to even ask an applicant about their political views. To refuse a person a job based on political beliefs is illegal under European human rights law. So thankfully your vetting process is never gonna happen. By the way, I oppose fascism and favour socialism, would this fail me in your vetting process?

James Brown

Anti-Fa is not an organisation with a board and a president. It's a catch-all term for anti fascist protesters. If you go out to protest you could easily be called anti-fa. Trump looking to ban 'anti-fa' and treat it as a terrorist group is akin to banning any protests he doesn't like.
What happened to 'very fine people on both sides'?

RWCNT

Bowie wrote: »

Anti-Fa is not an organisation with a board and a president. It's a catch-all term for anti fascist protesters. If you go out to protest you could easily be called anti-fa. Trump looking to ban 'anti-fa' and treat it as a terrorist group is akin to banning any protests he doesn't like.
What happened to 'very fine people on both sides'?

And how exactly does one go about proving that they're NOT a member? I don't think this will happen, but if it did you will 100% see it being abused.

Mr. Karate

Deleted User wrote: »

Marxism isn't necessarily dangerous firstly.

Not dangerous?



Jesus, You need to open a history book. Millions have died in the name of Marxism.

Next you'll be telling something really stupid like Real Socialism has never been implemented and we'll make it work.

suicide_circus

Bowie wrote: »

Anti-Fa is not an organisation with a board and a president. It's a catch-all term for anti fascist protesters. If you go out to protest you could easily be called anti-fa. Trump looking to ban 'anti-fa' and treat it as a terrorist group is akin to banning any protests he doesn't like.
What happened to 'very fine people on both sides'?

so classifying them as a terrorist organisation shouldn't worry anyone since they dont exist as an organisation. right?

notobtuse

I see Trump plans on classifying Antifa as a terrorist organization after their recent involvement in all the violence and destruction. Good optics on Trump's part and will help him in the election but it won’t fly as that designation usually only applies to international groups. But it does send the correct message to the FBI that enough is enough with these domestic terrorists. Attorney General Barr has announced that the FBI and its Joint Terrorism Task Force would go after anyone crossing state lines to organize riots. This is a current power to prosecute the FBI has under their jurisdiction, and they also have RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) which would be much more devastating to Antifa, as it's a more powerful tool to the FBI than any ‘designation.’ RICO has been used on a regular basis to break up criminal syndicates, which Antifa most definitely qualifies as. And if the DOJ can prove any kind of coordination to commit felonies, then anyone in the organization can be held criminally liable for all of the felonies committed. Hopefully this will be an end to Antifa in America.

Overheal

suicide_circus wrote: »

so classifying them as a terrorist organisation shouldn't worry anyone since they dont exist as an organisation. right?

Oh sure just like the suspension of Habeus corpus was no business of anyone who wasn’t a Muslim :rolleyes:

CtevenSrowder

Overheal wrote: »

Oh sure just like the suspension of Habeus corpus was no business of anyone who wasn’t a Muslim :rolleyes:

But Muslims exist.

RWCNT

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Not dangerous?



Jesus, You need to open a history book. Millions have died in the name of Marxism.

Next you'll be telling something really stupid like Real Socialism has never been implemented and we'll make it work.

Millions have died in the name of religion - should we ban those who identify as believers of a religion from being teachers as well?

suicide_circus

Overheal wrote: »

Oh sure just like the suspension of Habeus corpus was no business of anyone who wasn’t a Muslim :rolleyes:

i'm not saying it's right! but the contention that antifa are not a real organisation is just silly

Overheal

suicide_circus wrote: »

i'm not saying it's right! but the contention that antifa are not a real organisation is just silly

They aren’t though. Not in the same way The Weathermen were an organization, or Proud Boys, or the Taliban, or the RIRA. There’s no charter or leadership structure of membership cards that I’m aware of. It’s a hashtag that took on life.

James Brown

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Not dangerous?

Jesus, You need to open a history book. Millions have died in the name of Marxism.

Next you'll be telling something really stupid like Real Socialism has never been implemented and we'll make it work.

As many as die under the name of democracy and freedom? Nasty organisations and people will misuse ideology for their own gains....if you open a history book. Can't have a socialist/communist dictator. They might sell themselves as equal mind.