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Luke Kelly statue vandalised

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    It's obviously Frank the dirty bastard.

    Nah it was Richard. When he left the ‘dirty protests’ stopped. Coincidence? I think not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    Although it was stupid to do so I doubt the people who done it meant any harm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    Do you really think these people listen to, or read the news?

    It's reading the outraged letters to the Irish times that drives them on :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    This is like the phantom sh1tter at work. Everyone in the company except senior management and HR knows who it is.

    Does every company have one of them?
    I thought that it was just us


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    I noticed it when I drove past earlier. That area is a total cesspit. I know it's not everyone, and you can't tar them all with the same brush. But surely if you wanted to get anywhere in life, you would want to get out of that area, and leave it behind.

    I remember being stopped at the lights beside the statue a few years ago. A woman was sweeping up her front yard. And rather than put what she'd swept up in her bin, she just dumped it over her front wall into the street. So many of the local residents are short sighted and only care about their own tiny patch.

    Move the statue to somewhere it will be better respected. No point just spending more money to protect it from the animals that live there.

    After passing earlier, and seeing the statue defaced again, I took a few photos of the street, and how the locals treat it all the time.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    Effects wrote: »
    I noticed it when I drove past earlier. That area is a total cesspit. I know it's not everyone, and you can't tar them all with the same brush. But surely if you wanted to get anywhere in life, you would want to get out of that area, and leave it behind.

    I remember being stopped at the lights beside the statue a few years ago. A woman was sweeping up her front yard. And rather than put what she'd swept up in her bin, she just dumped it over her front wall into the street. So many of the local residents are short sighted and only care about their own tiny patch.

    Move the statue to somewhere it will be better respected. No point just spending more money to protect it from the animals that live there.

    After passing earlier, and seeing the statue defaced again, I took a few photos of the street, and how the locals treat it all the time.

    qaK2jnC.jpg

    That's disgusting but I see it alot cycling through dublin early morning, the litter wardens should be allowed use the batons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    It'd likely take up a night of a Garda car, maybe two if they're unlucky. And it'd be well worth it.

    This happens every couple of months. Gardaí just don't have the resources to wait that long. Pull the statue out and put it somewhere else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    Kip


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭lalababa


    It bugs me that the plan of action is to move the statue, put it in mid air, or put a railing around it.

    Not catch the scumbags doing it and punish them harshly. Why can't they clean it off over the weekend and stick a camera up to see what time of day it gets damaged. Then clean it off again next week, and park an unmarked Garda car across the road around the time of the expected visit, and catch them with a good battening and into a cell for the night?

    The only way is to have high areas of crime or at least the main public areas of Dublin covered with cameras plugged into a central manned video hub. And have patrol cars swanning around 'on the beat' . Close and ready to be at the scene within minutes.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,280 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    What annoys me about that statement from the Northwall Community Association is that they're basically blaming Dublin City Council for not putting the statue out of reach of the vandals. We always hear how the area is so close-knit, so somebody knows who's doing it and isn't speaking up. So in that case why should the council have to spend money protecting it when somebody local surely knows who keeps doing it? Personally I'd fcuk it into the canal it's beside because imo it's a hideous eyesore that I pass twice daily going to and from Docklands station. But if it has to stay there then the locals need to man-up and shop whoever is vandalising it rather than blaming others for not doing enough.


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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's disgusting but I see it alot cycling through dublin early morning, the litter wardens should be allowed use the batons.
    Lets not go full fascist over a bit of litter.
    Zaph wrote: »
    What annoys me about that statement from the Northwall Community Association is that they're basically blaming Dublin City Council for not putting the statue out of reach of the vandals. We always hear how the area is so close-knit, so somebody knows who's doing it and isn't speaking up. So in that case why should the council have to spend money protecting it when somebody local surely knows who keeps doing it? Personally I'd fcuk it into the canal it's beside because imo it's a hideous eyesore that I pass twice daily going to and from Docklands station. But if it has to stay there then the locals need to man-up and shop whoever is vandalising it rather than blaming others for not doing enough.
    There are already two guys awaiting trial. Maybe that was based on local information.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,608 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Zaph wrote: »
    What annoys me about that statement from the Northwall Community Association is that they're basically blaming Dublin City Council for not putting the statue out of reach of the vandals. We always hear how the area is so close-knit, so somebody knows who's doing it and isn't speaking up. So in that case why should the council have to spend money protecting it when somebody local surely knows who keeps doing it? Personally I'd fcuk it into the canal it's beside because imo it's a hideous eyesore that I pass twice daily going to and from Docklands station. But if it has to stay there then the locals need to man-up and shop whoever is vandalising it rather than blaming others for not doing enough.

    Loose lips sink ships. Maybe someone has the brains to keep their actions to themselves. Doubt it though, most people are talkers.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭joeharte123


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    they might see a link on facebook about it id say, rather than watching RTE news or reading the Irish times.

    True, they all have the latest iPhone anyway, or they could look it up on their iPad, or Mac book pro. These folk are never off the internet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    Where has anybody said that in reply to this obnoxious vandalism?

    Can you point out anyone who's said anything like that? People love to get themselves worked up about things they imagine someone might say.

    It is an all the time response from local politicians and now from the North wall community association.

    On Friday ' independent ' Councillor Anthony Flynn was responding to the proposed swimming facility planned for the Liffey.

    No new fancy facilities, only certain locals i. E. unemployed should have facilities, of their choosing provided.


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,144 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    KevRossi wrote: »
    I think 20 years have to pass from the death of a person in Dublin for them to be commemorated. But maybe this only applies to naming streets, bridges etc after them.

    I would also argue that there were 5 Dubliners;

    Ronnie Drew
    Luke Kelly
    Ciaran Bourke
    Barney McKenna
    John Sheehan

    Obviously others like Jim McCann and Sean Cannon who joined and left after Ciaran Bourke's illness and Luke Kelly's death, but there were always 4 of the above 5 in it for the first two decades.

    Was Paddy Reilly also in?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You could easily do it. I know every Garda car in my area, marked and unmarked. But I still got caught off guard when I seen one on the M1 recently. An unmarked Volvo. Was completely shocked when I seen it's lights come on.


    You just need one of the lesser used cars. There's lots of parking along that road that could be used. It'd likely take up a night of a Garda car, maybe two if they're unlucky. And it'd be well worth it. The Gardai could do a bit of paperwork in the car overnight and catch up on things, or just watch Youtube for a few hours.




    Then you have the people responsible. Don't give them a slap on the wrist, give them a month in a cell and then look at how the Statue remains untouched indefinitely afterwards. Turning a blind eye or spending half a million on security measures is the go-to for dealing with crime in Ireland and it doesn't work.

    There's parking. Which the locals look directly down on. Any Garda sitting there will be seen and reported via many many whistles in about 30 seconds flat.

    Catch up on paperwork? Gardai don't do paper in the car. This isn't the LAPD, there's no computers in cars here nor are there enough Gardai to simple sit watching a statue for a month.

    I dunno where they month in a cell comes in. You mean prison? They ain't getting prison for this. They will get legal aid though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,277 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    This statue and the sean Russel statue has been claimed by the LGBT community you can find the person who claimed it on behalf of this community on Facebook were he posted it his name is Jake doyle.
    What they gain to achieve from these acts when all it gains is anger towards them is mind boggling..

    I see this poster is banned so can’t answer. Does anyone know what he’s talking about? What does he mean by this statue and the Sean Russel one has been “claimed” by someone or some group? Has the Sean Russel statue been vandalised? Is it just random vandalism or is there some strange campaign going on behind it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,782 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Lets not go full fascist over a bit of litter.

    Some people need to be tasered into compliance imo, only thing they'd understand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,810 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    This is getting fcuking ridiculous now


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,932 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Dear God can we please put a stop to this nonsense, lock this horrendous eye sore away permanently. This said, I'm beginning to wonder is there a more sinister reasons behind these attacks on this monstrosity

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Its a horrible statue.

    They should replace it with something nice.

    I think maybe its locals who think its an eyesore at this stage?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,868 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    This is very strange. I got a warning for speculating why it may be continously vandalised previously but this can't just be a coincidence? 7 times now.. Very bizarre


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,932 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Des geraghty on morning ireland saying its not locals doing this, perhaps he thinks vandals are getting on the dart, luas for an evening of vandalism in sheriff Street? I think not. This is local and appears to be very deliberate and focused

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 24,827 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Zaph wrote: »
    What annoys me about that statement from the Northwall Community Association is that they're basically blaming Dublin City Council for not putting the statue out of reach of the vandals. We always hear how the area is so close-knit, so somebody knows who's doing it and isn't speaking up. So in that case why should the council have to spend money protecting it when somebody local surely knows who keeps doing it? Personally I'd fcuk it into the canal it's beside because imo it's a hideous eyesore that I pass twice daily going to and from Docklands station. But if it has to stay there then the locals need to man-up and shop whoever is vandalising it rather than blaming others for not doing enough.

    Maybe in Paris, if somebody vandalized the Eiffel Tower, somebody in Rome vandalized the Pantheon or the Little Mermaid in Copenhagen.. the local ‘cummunity’ association would be ok and reasonable in accusing those designed and who left those amenities in areas accessible to the public for the vandalism. Right ! That’s how mad these excuses are.

    I grew up in an estate where there was never any hassle, great community, residents association the whole lot and people took care in looking out for each other, their area and so on. A collection was made over time to install an inscribed water feature at the first corner of the estate, permission was sought, granted and a big massive limestone decorative, inscribed and functioning water trough/feature was installed.

    It was constantly damaged to the point that eventually the residents association gave up spending money repairing it... eventually it became so wrecked it was taken away and destroyed.

    Those damaging it were from a neighboring, less affluent estate. Unhappy that we’d been able to avail and enjoy of something they hadn’t got... so destroy.

    It was replaced by a big flower bed, again planted by and looked after by the residents... one night.... you guessed it.. thugs showed up and kicked it to bits...

    And we have elected politicians coming out and defending these people and their behaviors... Burke is now on record as being a bully enabler and supporter... excusing their crimes and blaming people instead who just wanted to add an art piece to an area.. sad and unacceptable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Its a horrible statue.

    They should replace it with something nice.

    I think maybe its locals who think its an eyesore at this stage?

    We're talking about Sheriff Street here, anything nice or otherwise will be attacked.

    And before people go jumping all over me, I lived in Lawrence's Mansions and Phil Shanahan House for seven years. In fact my wife was born in the family flat in Lawrence's then we bought our first house and lived in Eastwall for a long time after, I'm also Summerhill born so I won't accept crap that I'm generalizing and don't know the area of the locals.

    The statue, yes like most people I think its an eye sore but it doesn't have to be attacked constantly like this, but it will be. This will be a continuing situation until its removed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    They should take away the Luke Kelly statue and put it in a museum somewhere.its gone beyond a joke now.
    In its place they should put a 20 foot high statue of a rat wearing a tracksuit,for all the pond rats to go to worship instead.it would be like Disney world to them.would bring a tear to their eye.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Des geraghty on morning ireland saying its not locals doing this, perhaps he thinks vandals are getting on the dart, luas for an evening of vandalism in sheriff Street? I think not. This is local and appears to be very deliberate and focused

    I took from Des Geraghty's interview that it would be ok if the people who did this were sending a legitimate massage, that it could be a cry for help.

    Such rubbish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    imme wrote: »
    I took from Des Geraghty's interview that it would be ok if the people who did this were sending a legitimate massage, that it could be a cry for help.

    Such rubbish.

    The noble savage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    They should take away the Luke Kelly statue and put it in a museum somewhere.its gone beyond a joke now.
    In its place they should put a 20 foot high statue of a rat wearing a tracksuit,for all the pond rats to go to worship instead.it would be like Disney world to them.would bring a tear to their eye.

    In Ballymun comprehensive school they've a statue of a young trollop in a tracksuit riding a horse bareback lol (for real)

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 22,297 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Des geraghty on morning ireland saying its not locals doing this, perhaps he thinks vandals are getting on the dart, luas for an evening of vandalism in sheriff Street? I think not. This is local and appears to be very deliberate and focused

    It's never locals is it? These places would be lovely if outsiders weren't always coming in causing problems.


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