Are they just filthy bastards in Ballymun and North Dublin City

Spook_ie

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irelands-litter-blackspot-revealed-as-kilkenny-named-countrys-cleanest-town-929783.html

So Ballymun is the only litter blackspot for 2019, and North inner city only one place above them. Having seen the litter in various places it must have been really bad when they did the survey,but, and here's the question.

Do you take your litter seriously or are you a fling it out of the car window (drivers and passengers) , on the floor (pedestrians) , in the hedgerows (cyclists)? or does it depend on where you are, North City fling it anyway because they don't care, Kilkenny take it home because they do care?

biko

Best
1. Kilkenny
2. Athlone
3. Killarney
4. Portlaoise

Worst
36. Cork City - Mahon
37. Cork Northside
38. Limerick City South - Galvone
39. Dublin North Inner City
40. Ballymun

Deebles McBeebles

Special mention should go to Limerick and Cork too. Dirty.

The J Stands for Jay

biko wrote: »

I think you are being too restrictive.

Best
1. Kilkenny
2. Athlone
3. Killarney
4. Portlaoise

Worst
36. Cork City - Mahon
37. Cork Northside
38. Limerick City South - Galvone
39. Dublin North Inner City
40. Ballymun

What type of communities live in each of the worst areas?

biko

Dubliners mainly in the absolute worst two, although it's possible some blow-ins live there too.

theteal

40 towns/cities seems like a very small sample size, no?

Merry_Hell

Spook_ie wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irelands-litter-blackspot-revealed-as-kilkenny-named-countrys-cleanest-town-929783.html

So Ballymun is the only litter blackspot for 2019, and North inner city only one place above them. Having seen the litter in various places it must have been really bad when they did the survey,but, and here's the question.

Do you take your litter seriously or are you a fling it out of the car window (drivers and passengers) , on the floor (pedestrians) , in the hedgerows (cyclists)? or does it depend on where you are, North City fling it anyway because they don't care, Kilkenny take it home because they do care?

People caught littering are given fines that they are under no obligation to pay. This isn't complex stuff.

Deebles McBeebles

McGaggs wrote: »

What type of communities live in each of the worst areas?

Litterers.

BarryD2

It's a logical enough mindset when you have public figures (some elected) openly opposing paying for refuse charges.

Cina

You know you're bad when even Drogheda beats you.

InTheShadows

Low income areas can't afford the bin charges that where privatised. Who'd have thought it.

Spook_ie

InTheShadows wrote: »

Low income areas can't afford the bin charges that where privatised. Who'd have thought it.

Doesn't stop you from walking up to a litter bin and putting your McDonald's, Burger King or whatever wrappers in though, does it?

That would seem to be more a case of how people were brought up to litter or not?

The J Stands for Jay

InTheShadows wrote: »

Low income areas can't afford the bin charges that where privatised. Who'd have thought it.

This is exactly it. Isn't a lot of the accommodation provided for them ****e as well? Not an easy issue to address.

Boom_Bap

Spook_ie wrote: »

Doesn't stop you from walking up to a litter bin and putting your McDonald's, Burger King or whatever wrappers in though, does it?

That would seem to be more a case of how people were brought up to litter or not?

Stand outside the Supervalu on the Ballyer road, or outside the Centra in Poppo, people walk outside, take whatever wrapper off what they have purchased and drop it on the ground.

Every 2nd or 3rd person does it.

SirGerryAdams

InTheShadows wrote: »

Low income areas can't afford the bin charges that where privatised. Who'd have thought it.

What kind of litter is found on the streets I wonder? Probably cans!

Sirsok

Im from Kilkenny, a few months ago i seen a young lad throw a bottle of coke in the middle of high street and it genuinely confused me as it was not something i had seen in a long while.

Fags butts tend to be a problem around here though, people throwing out car windows or outside pubs.

Captain Chaos

Spook_ie wrote: »

Doesn't stop you from walking up to a litter bin and putting your McDonald's, Burger King or whatever wrappers in though, does it?

That would seem to be more a case of how people were brought up to litter or not?

Lately DCC are not even emptying public bins, most I see are overflowing all the time. They have even started removing some public bins in some areas due to cut backs.

Boom_Bap

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

What kind of litter is found on the streets I wonder? Probably cans!

mostly crisp bags and wrappers off deli rolls.

Mad_maxx

How would folks in ballymun or the island field in Limerick know to put their rubbish in the bin if the state doesn't tell them

Not like their parents could instruct them from an early age

Spook_ie

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Lately DCC are not even emptying public bins, most I see are overflowing all the time. They have even started removing some public bins in some areas due to cut backs.

Well let's see if the new "greenwave" of Councillors actually do something simple like getting the bins emptied, I wouldn't be betting on it though!

TuringBot47

Get people on social welfare to put in a few hours of community work for their free money, including litter collection.

Problem solved.

It's caused by the non-working classes, make them clean up their mess.

Dublin Spur

Talbot St / Foley St was covered in litter this morning
Every Monday it's the same
What a kip - just disgusting

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Some major towns not on the list at all. Dundalk, Mullingar, Tullamore?

A strange selection.

Dyr

Most of the dumping in Ballymun is people driving into the area to chuck bags out of their car, some local knacks at it as well. Lot's of undeveloped spots where you won't be noticed

Overcrowding ain't helping either, 2 bed houses privately let to half a dozen punters is not a recipe for success.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

InTheShadows wrote: »

Low income areas can't afford the bin charges that where privatised. Who'd have thought it.

This isn’t domestic litter.

GreeBo

And I always thought these people were illitterate!


/coat

Deebles McBeebles

BarryD2 wrote: »

It's a logical enough mindset when you have public figures (some elected) openly opposing paying for refuse charges.

Is it logical though? Logical would be thinking about what this is doing to your environment. Seems more lazy than logical to me. Any excuse to just f*ck our litter on the ground.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Lots of missing towns alright.

Fan of Netflix

The mass dumping of tonnes of rubbish in rural areas and especially forests and walkways, is also disgusting. A lot of that is done by Travellers though so don't expect the Green Party or any other party to highlight or stop that, they don't have the balls.

Irish Guitarist

There's definitely an increase in filth since rubbish collection was privatised. I live in Carlow and there's bags of rubbish left under benches and on the street. The worst is the River Barrow. Fuckers just dump bags of rubbish into the river.

If they could just leave these same bags outside their front door and have them collected for free these cunts wouldn't be driving around the place looking for somewhere to dump their filth.

Guy:Incognito

InTheShadows wrote: »

Low income areas can't afford the bin charges that where privatised. Who'd have thought it.

So that makes them drop bottles, cans and other litter as they are walking with it , yeah?

Cos I see it all the time in clondalkin as I'm driving. Little cvunts just walking along, finished what they are eating or drinking and just drop it on the ground.

If people can afford to runs cars, drive them to McDonalds to sit and eat in the car park then dump all the rubbish out the window, they can well afford bin charges.

These people are scum. That's why theres rubbish.

You can bring a car load of rubbish to the dump for 15 quid.

if you go to Sandycove beach late on a summer's evening, the place looks like a music festival has just taken place.

Dirty nappies, millions of fag butts, empty cans, left overs from a take away you name it, you'll find it there. it is ****ing disgusting.

The council put extra bins out as well, so very few people would be more than 10 metres from a bin and everyone leaving the beach has to pass one to get back to their car/bus/train.

But no, Seano and Sharon would much rather leave their **** there for someone else to pick up.

lazy, dirty *****.

Deebles McBeebles

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

So that makes them drop bottles, cans and other litter as they are walking with it , yeah?

Cos I see it all the time in clondalkin as I'm driving. Little cvunts just walking along, finished what they are eating or drinking and just drop it on the ground.

If people can afford to runs cars, drive them to McDonalds to sit and eat in the car park then dump all the rubbish out the window, they can well afford bin charges.

These people are scum. That's why theres rubbish.

You can bring a car load of rubbish to the dump for 15 quid.

They won't throw rubbish in bins until the gubbermint provides then with the free bins that they are entitled to.

Guy:Incognito

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Lately DCC are not even emptying public bins, most I see are overflowing all the time. They have even started removing some public bins in some areas due to cut backs.

I grew up in an estate in tallaght in the 80s . I couldn't tell you where or if there was a public bin other than at the local shops.

I've never knowingly dropped a piece of litter. I was raised from an early age that it was wrong and I drill it in to my kids.

Richard Hillman

I was listening to the radio this morning about it. To become a litter blackspot it has to be more than just empty cans, wrappers etc. There needs to be clear dumping of rubbish. Ballymun folk and people of surrounding areas are basically just taking their rubbish bags out and throwing them anywhere

Guy:Incognito

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I was listening to the radio this morning about it. To become a litter blackspot it has to be more than just empty cans, wrappers etc. There needs to be clear dumping of rubbish. Ballymun folk and people of surrounding areas are basically just taking their rubbish bags out and throwing them anywhere

If people just drop their litter as they walk you can be fairly sure they or their families will be willing to dump their black bags full of rubbish too.

Guy:Incognito

Plenty of people who probably wouldnt dream of dropping rubbish on the street will happily drop rubbish all around them and leave loads I'd crsp behind them in the cinema . I see that all the time too.

Boom_Bap

There are a few spots in Ballyer where people do indeed do that, they put their bins and other household waste in the nearest green area.



There are a couple of spot in Ballyer where the community comes together and keeps their streets and gardens spotless as well though.

Boom_Bap

Boom_Bap wrote: »

There are a few spots in Ballyer where people do indeed do that, they put their bins and other household waste in the nearest green area.

You would think they would be worried that their horses might eat the rubbish

ifElseThen

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

So that makes them drop bottles, cans and other litter as they are walking with it , yeah?

Cos I see it all the time in clondalkin as I'm driving. Little cvunts just walking along, finished what they are eating or drinking and just drop it on the ground.

If people can afford to runs cars, drive them to McDonalds to sit and eat in the car park then dump all the rubbish out the window, they can well afford bin charges.

These people are scum. That's why theres rubbish.

You can bring a car load of rubbish to the dump for 15 quid.

Bang on the money. I challenged a girl who dropped her jellies wrapper on the path in Corkagh Park yesterday. She picked it up but not without giving out about it. She was about 10m from the bin when she dropped it.

There's no excuse for it. Dragged up kids become dragged up adults. It was my eldest boy who pointed it out, so it's good that some kids get the message.

BarryD2

InTheShadows wrote: »

Low income areas can't afford the bin charges that where privatised. Who'd have thought it.

If you can afford a few fags and a few cans or pints every week, then you can bloody well afford to pay a few bob to have your rubbish collected. When you have TDs like Paul Murphy et al encouraging protest over bin charges https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/bin-charges-anti-austerity-alliance-11500259 then clearly some will take that as the green light to just dump their waste and let the city authorities clean it up.

Pkiernan

Dole = litter

El_Bee

Why pay for bins when you can just throw your rubbish out onto the streets for your kids to burn? We have two sofas out in the middle of the estate, one was burned, Council truck came along and took the burned one away the other is still here, waiting to be burned later. gummint should be running free waste service anyway, sure we're entitled to it.

biko

The movie Hot Fuzz is about what happens when you litter.

Mad_maxx

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

The mass dumping of tonnes of rubbish in rural areas and especially forests and walkways, is also disgusting. A lot of that is done by Travellers though so don't expect the Green Party or any other party to highlight or stop that, they don't have the balls.

A lot of it is due to dubs moving out the country and not wanting to pay for bin collection

Machina

I'm pleased to see my own town in the top 5. I remember as a young lad, and growing up in one of the tougher areas it has to be said, and we'd all casually just throw our sweet wrappers and cola bottles on the ground. We weren't admonished for it and there were no local authority bins. It was just accepted by children and adults alike.

Fast forward 25 years and my home estate is still rough to a certain extent but the place is spotless. In fact it was actually awarded the cleanest area in the town not so long ago. So by my own internal logic it's now one of the cleanest estates in the country! (Flawed logic, perhaps, but I'll go with it).

It's hard to pin-point the reason for the change. General attitudes towards litter and recycling have changed of course, but on top of that there's now a sense of communal integrity and responsibility. For example, my Mam now lives alone and doesn't generate much waste, but her bins are regularly full of excess rubbish and recycling from the large family next door as Mam will make her bins available. And of course they'll make a contribution towards her waste management fees if there's a lot, especially around Christmas. Little things like that. A community standing up and saying that, despite the many other issues we might have, we're going to have pride in where we live.

Boom_Bap

Boom_Bap wrote: »

There are a few spots in Ballyer where people do indeed do that, they put their bins and other household waste in the nearest green area.

There are a couple of spot in Ballyer where the community comes together and keeps their streets and gardens spotless as well though.

I've never heard of Ballymun being referred to as Ballyer. The 'fermot is what's known as Ballyer by all and sundry, including residents of Ballymun and "Poppo" (:eek:)

Boom_Bap

Deleted User wrote: »

I've never heard of Ballymun being referred to as Ballyer. The 'fermot is what's known as Ballyer by all and sundry, including residents of Ballymun and "Poppo" (:eek:)

The 'Mun better?

Thelonious Monk

I've cycled through Summerhill long enough to see what goes on. They just put their bags of rubbish out on the street and expect others to clean it up. I think they're supposed to buy bin tags in those parts but obviously they don't bother. It's nothing to do with them not being able to afford it, they just don't care about living in their own sh*t. For the price of a pint or whatever they just ordered from just-eat they could easily pay for bin tags.
I saw a woman bring what looked like her grandkid to a public street bin around there a while ago and shove a huge bag of rubbish into it, only half of it went out and the rest was hanging out spewing rubbish onto the street. Great example to set love.
These people have zero pride in their communities, they're not even smart enough to realise they're rubbishing the area, it just does not compute with them. I shouted at some wan who f*cked a plastic bottle on the road in North Strand recently to pick it up and she looked so shocked that I dared say anything.
The funny thing is it's these same gobsh*tes who put up Irish flags and hunger striker posters ffs. Irish pride my bollocks.

Machina

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

The funny thing is it's these same gobsh*tes who put up Irish flags and hunger striker posters ffs. Irish pride my bollocks.

And you were doing so well.

somesoldiers

I walk through Sheriff Street area a couple of times a week, on bin day there are plastic bags left out, sea gulls the size of bald eagles rip them apart to get at whatever food is left in them. Result by the time the bins are collected 50% of the rubbish is on the street. The sweeper truck goes around but because of parked cars there is only so much it can’t get at.