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Gemma O'Doherty and her unicorns

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    #662
    Sonic_exyouth
    Registered Users Posts: 538 ✭✭✭Sonic_exyouth


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Let's talk about Ireland

    Yes, Irish exporters seeking a halal certification to make it easier to export to Muslim Majority nations.


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    #663
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Sonic_exyouth wrote: »
    Yes, Irish exporters seeking a halal certification to make it easier to export to Muslim Majority nations.

    No problem with that. But let's talk about Ireland. As in meat sold in Ireland.

    Stop the lights


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    #664
    jeremyj1968
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    It strikes me as unusual that a lot of the animal rights crowds come on the radio talking about the transportation of animals, and I've never heard any of them complain about the way that the animals are killed Halal style. Particularly that John Carmody guy, who Joe Duffy has on regularly.

    Another one of those media blind spots.


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    #665
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    circadian wrote: »
    Anyone convinced of an Islamic takeover of western society is a moron.
    "takeover" was maybe too strong a word, but it is a relentless and growing colonisation. Some countries have been more affected than others, so far.

    Here in Ireland we are only in the initial phase.


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    #666
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    jeremyj1968 wrote: »
    It strikes me as unusual that a lot of the animal rights crowds come on the radio talking about the transportation of animals, and I've never heard any of them complain about the way that the animals are killed Halal style. Particularly that John Carmody guy, who Joe Duffy has on regularly.

    Another one of those media blind spots.

    They are slaughtered the same way as non halal, only difference is in halal some lad in a robe throws a few "holy words" towards the carcass.


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    #667
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    They are slaughtered the same way as non halal, only difference is in halal some lad in a robe throws a few "holy words" towards the carcass.

    No answer to my question still.

    You don't have to attend candle light vigils as you put it if not Catholic. You have a choice
    Having my food prepared according to Islamic beliefs is not a choice I would make.

    Do I have a choice?


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    #668
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,310 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    No answer to my question still.

    You don't have to attend candle light vigils as you put it if not Catholic. You have a choice
    Having my food prepared according to Islamic beliefs is not a choice I would make.

    Do I have a choice?

    do you think you are in danger of accidentally buying halal meat?


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    #669
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,457 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    No answer to my question still.

    You don't have to attend candle light vigils as you put it if not Catholic. You have a choice
    Having my food prepared according to Islamic beliefs is not a choice I would make.

    Do I have a choice?

    Yes you have a choice

    You pick a product, check if it's halal certified (the same way a muslim would) and if it is and it offends your snowflake sensibilities then you choose not to buy said product.


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    #670
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    do you think you are in danger of accidentally buying halal meat?

    I should have a clear choice.


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    #671
    Blueshoe
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Yes you have a choice

    You pick a product, check if it's halal certified (the same way a muslim would) and if it is and it offends your snowflake sensibilities then you choose not to buy said product.

    Awesome thanks. Took a while but we got there


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    #672
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,310 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    I should have a clear choice.

    you do have a choice. if your local butcher is selling halal meat (and that is very unlikely) they will let you know.


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    #673
    Blueshoe
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you do have a choice. if your local butcher is selling halal meat (and that is very unlikely) they will let you know.

    I don't know if they would. I support a labeling system.

    "Halal certified" symbol on products. Benifits everyone


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    #674
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,457 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Awesome thanks. Took a while but we got there

    So now you can stop having nightmares about accidently eating anything halal, happy Googling.


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    #675
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    So now you can stop having nightmares about accidently eating anything halal, happy Googling.

    Is there a labeling system in the UK?


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    #676
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Is there a labeling system in the UK?

    Asked and answered.


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    #677
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Asked and answered.

    Correct. Apologies


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    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,310 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    I don't know if they would. I support a labeling system.

    "Halal certified" symbol on products. Benifits everyone

    how do you think people that need to buy halal meat know what they can buy?


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    Blueshoe
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    how do you think people that need to buy halal meat know what they can buy?

    I don't know. I mean Donegal catch is halal but it doesn't say it on the packaging


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    #680
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    I don't know. I mean Donegal catch is halal but it doesn't say it on the packaging

    So is lettuce, cabbage, Tomatoes and bananas. Do they need a label?


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    #681
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    So is lettuce, cabbage, Tomatoes and bananas. Do they need a label?

    Yes
    Do foods need a vegetarian or vegan symbol?


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    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,457 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Yes
    Do foods need a vegetarian or vegan symbol?

    Brennans Bread is vegan/vegitarian, should it have a vegan/vegitarian label? Some.carnivores may get upset about eating unlabeled vegan/vegitarian food.


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    #683
    Blueshoe
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Brennans Bread is vegan/vegitarian, should it have a vegan/vegitarian label? Some.carnivores may get upset about eating unlabeled vegan/vegitarian food.

    It probably should. No smoke and mirrors stuff.
    Transparency.

    "Traditionally bread is made from yeast, flour, water, and salt, so it would be suitable for vegans. Unfortunately some commercially sold breads (e.g. sold at supermarkets) contain dairy such as whey (a milk protein) or eggs as fillers or stabilizers and those breads would not be considered vegan (or plant-based)."

    There are vegans and vegetarians up and down the country who are unaware.


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    #684
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,310 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    I don't know. I mean Donegal catch is halal but it doesn't say it on the packaging

    Fish is halal anyway so they aren;t doing anything odd to your battered cod fillets.


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    #685
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    It probably should. No smoke and mirrors stuff.
    Transparency.

    "Traditionally bread is made from yeast, flour, water, and salt, so it would be suitable for vegans. Unfortunately some commercially sold breads (e.g. sold at supermarkets) contain dairy such as whey (a milk protein) or eggs as fillers or stabilizers and those breads would not be considered vegan (or plant-based)."

    There are vegans and vegetarians up and down the country who are unaware.

    And as with halal, Google is your friend.


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    #686
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    And as with halal, Google is your friend.

    Most normal countries would introduce a labeling system. Ireland doesn't fall into that category so Google it is.


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    #687
    Overheal
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    recedite wrote: »
    Anyone not concerned about Islamic takeover in western society is a moron.
    circadian wrote: »
    Anyone convinced of an Islamic takeover of western society is a moron.

    Less of the above please, it is infantile. /mod
    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Oh ffs are we back on the halal shìte again?
    recedite wrote: »
    Officially certified halal shìte.
    Sums up the majority of this thread.


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    #688
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,457 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Most normal countries would introduce a labeling system. Ireland doesn't fall into that category so Google it is.

    Most? Evidence for this please?


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    #689
    Annasopra
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Massive percentage of the population are Catholic. At least on paper anyway. Especially the older generation

    It's not like for like.

    You don't have to attend if not Catholic. You have a choice
    Having my food prepared according to Islamic beliefs is not a choice I would make.

    Do I have a choice?

    What special preparation according to islamic beliefs is there to make bread?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #690
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    What special preparation according to islamic beliefs is there to make bread?

    All foods.

    Vegan
    Vegetarian
    Gluten
    Halal


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    #691
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    What special preparation according to islamic beliefs is there to make bread?

    So why the need for Halal certification then. When you buy Halal certified products proceeds of the profit goes to Islamic organisations.


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