Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

Buer

bayern wrote: »

Osborne is fit and available.

Well, that's a thundering disgrace then.

Richie_Rich89

My player ratings from the Edinburgh game:

Peter Dooley
Not all that visible, but must have done his job reasonably well to contribute to setting a platform 5/10

James Tracy
Lively performance early on 6/10

Michael Bent
Not as good as previous weeks, but did his job 5/10

Scott Fardy
No real impact. You wonder where's the upside to selecting a 36-yo declining NIQ who's leaving at the end of the season when Leinster are winning all their games with bonus points and there's a guy like Dunne there who could use this gametime before he starts being pressured by the likes of C. Ryan and McCarthy 4/10

Devin Toner
Some good moments. With Ireland's lineout falling apart in Paris, you wonder was he discarded from the international scene too quickly. Would be the perfect player for Dunne to play alongside as he beds in 5/10

Dan Leavy
One of Leinster's better players on the night. Brings a real physical edge 7/10

Scott Penny
Good game from the young openside. Looks like a classic 7 with his skilful link play 6/10

Rhys Ruddock
Quieter than in recent weeks 4/10

Luke McGrath
Mixed bag from Leinster's 9. Did some good things, but not exactly a standout either 5/10

Harry Byrne
Excellent performance from the young 10. Looks to have it all 6/10

David Kearney
Solid but unspectacular 4/10

Ciarán Frawley
Skilful, clever presence in Leinster's midfield. Came up with a nice offload and made a good linebreak at one stage that sorely highlighted the lack of support play 6/10

Liam Turner
Game seemed to pass him by 4/10

Cian Kelleher
Came up with a hattrick but looked shaky when the ball was kicked to him 5/10

Jimmy O'Brien
Has all the skills and technical ability you could ask for. Very accomplished performance. Does it all with no drama and very low error count 7/10

Dan Sheehan
Good impact off the bench 5/10

Michael Milne
Showed up well in the loose when he came on 6/10

Ciaran Parker
Somewhat off the pace 4/10

Ross Molony
4/10

Hugh O'Sullivan
4/10

David Hawkshaw
Looked lively. Interesting option going forward 5/10

Ryan Baird
Picked up where he left off pre-injury 6/10

aloooof

My ratings of your ratings? 4/10 Too obvious, needs to try harder.

theVersatile

bayern wrote: »

Leinster Academy update

LH Prop
Michael Milne(21/Birr RFC-Roscrea/UCD) - 1 start, 3 sub apps.
--
Marcus Hanan(20/Clane RFC/Old Belvedere) - leinster 7's
Jack Boyle(18/Michaels/UCD) - leinster 7's

TH Prop
Tom Clarkson(20/Blackrock/DUFC) - 2 sub apps.
--
Bobby Sheehan(20/Clongowes/UCD)
Ben Griffin(19/Castleknock/DUFC)

Hooker
John McKee(20/Campbell/Old Belvedere) - injured
--
Lee Barron(19/Michaels/DUFC) - leinster 7's

Lock
Charlie Ryan(21/Blackrock/UCD)
Brian Deeny(20/Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - injured
Joe McCarthy(19/Blackrock/DUFC) - leinster 7's

Backrow
Martin Moloney(21/Athy RFC/Clontarf) - injured
Sean O’Brien(20/Blackrock/UCD) - injured
Alex Soroka(19/Belvedere/Clontarf) - leinster 7's
--
Mark Hernan(20/Michaels/Lansdowne)
Will Hickey(19/Michaels/UCD)

Scrumhalf
Patrick Patterson(21/Blackrock/UCD) - leinster 7's
Cormac Foley(21/St. Gerards/Lansdowne)
--
Rob Gilsenan(19/Michaels/UCD)

Outhalf
David Hawkshaw(21/Belvedere/Clontarf) - 3 sub apps.
--
Tim Corkery(18/Kilkenny RFC/UCD)
Charlie Tector(18/Kilkenny/Lansdowne) - leinster 7's

Centre
Liam Turner(21/Blackrock/DUFC) - 2 starts, 1 sub app.
--
Marcus Kiely(19/Newbridge/Naas) - leinster 7's
Karl Martin(18/Boyne RFC/Old Belvedere) - leinster 7's

Back Three
Michael Silvester(22/Clongowes/DUFC) - 1 sub app
Aaron O’Sullivan(20/Exile/Blackrock) - irish 7's
Max O’Reilly(20/St. Gerards/DUFC) - injured
Niall Comerford(20/Blackrock/UCD) - leinster 7's
Andrew Smith(20/Michaels/Clontarf) - injured
--
Jamie Osborne(19/Naas RFC/Naas) - leinster 7's
Chris Cosgrave(19/Michaels/UCD) - leinster 7's
Josh O'Connor(19/Wexford RFC/UCD)

I thought Bobby Sheehan was also a hooker? Also looking back through old Ireland squads, anything from Mark Boyle (Paul Boyles brother)?

bayern

theVersatile wrote: »

I thought Bobby Sheehan was also a hooker? Also looking back through old Ireland squads, anything from Mark Boyle (Paul Boyles brother)?

Leinster are looking to convert him to tighthead, wait and see how it goes.

Mark was playing 7 for Lansdowne pre-lockdown.

Burkie1203

aloooof wrote: »

My ratings of your ratings? 0.4/10 Too obvious, needs to try harder.

FYP

kingofthekong

bayern wrote: »

Leinster Academy update

LH Prop
Michael Milne(21/Birr RFC-Roscrea/UCD) - 1 start, 3 sub apps.
--
Marcus Hanan(20/Clane RFC/Old Belvedere) - leinster 7's
Jack Boyle(18/Michaels/UCD) - leinster 7's

TH Prop
Tom Clarkson(20/Blackrock/DUFC) - 2 sub apps.
--
Bobby Sheehan(20/Clongowes/UCD)
Ben Griffin(19/Castleknock/DUFC)

Hooker
John McKee(20/Campbell/Old Belvedere) - injured
--
Lee Barron(19/Michaels/DUFC) - leinster 7's

Lock
Charlie Ryan(21/Blackrock/UCD)
Brian Deeny(20/Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - injured
Joe McCarthy(19/Blackrock/DUFC) - leinster 7's

Backrow
Martin Moloney(21/Athy RFC/Clontarf) - injured
Sean O’Brien(20/Blackrock/UCD) - injured
Alex Soroka(19/Belvedere/Clontarf) - leinster 7's
--
Mark Hernan(20/Michaels/Lansdowne)
Will Hickey(19/Michaels/UCD)

Scrumhalf
Patrick Patterson(21/Blackrock/UCD) - leinster 7's
Cormac Foley(21/St. Gerards/Lansdowne)
--
Rob Gilsenan(19/Michaels/UCD)

Outhalf
David Hawkshaw(21/Belvedere/Clontarf) - 3 sub apps.
--
Tim Corkery(18/Kilkenny RFC/UCD)
Charlie Tector(18/Kilkenny/Lansdowne) - leinster 7's

Centre
Liam Turner(21/Blackrock/DUFC) - 2 starts, 1 sub app.
--
Marcus Kiely(19/Newbridge/Naas) - leinster 7's
Karl Martin(18/Boyne RFC/Old Belvedere) - leinster 7's

Back Three
Michael Silvester(22/Clongowes/DUFC) - 1 sub app
Aaron O’Sullivan(20/Exile/Blackrock) - irish 7's
Max O’Reilly(20/St. Gerards/DUFC) - injured
Niall Comerford(20/Blackrock/UCD) - leinster 7's
Andrew Smith(20/Michaels/Clontarf) - injured
--
Jamie Osborne(19/Naas RFC/Naas) - leinster 7's
Chris Cosgrave(19/Michaels/UCD) - leinster 7's
Josh O'Connor(19/Wexford RFC/UCD)

Whats Marcus Hannan like, dont think i've seen him play

bayern

kingofthekong wrote: »

Whats Marcus Hannan like, dont think i've seen him play

was 1st choice loosehead for last seasons 20's, but wasn't a standout in the time he got. He comes from a club background(Clane/North Kildare) and was hoping to earn an academy place via the 20's, he was retained by leinster sub-academy this season. Missing out on the remaining 20's games in 6 nations and world cup was a blow to his development though.

bayern

Unfortunately there was less positive news for Ciarán Parker who injured his thumb in the game against Edinburgh Rugby and requires a procedure this week and he will as a result be unavailable for selection for a number of weeks.

There was similarly less positive news for Tadhg Furlong who hasn’t progressed as the physio team would have liked from his calf injury and will not be available for selection.

arsebiscuits1

bayern wrote: »

Unfortunately there was less positive news for Ciarán Parker who injured his thumb in the game against Edinburgh Rugby and requires a procedure this week and he will as a result be unavailable for selection for a number of weeks.

There was similarly less positive news for Tadhg Furlong who hasn’t progressed as the physio team would have liked from his calf injury and will not be available for selection.

Ah Jesus.

So we only have Bent whose got a serious amount of minutes recently and Clarkson fit for the next block?

If one of them drop in the warm up we wont be able to field a team!

Wonder what the next option is. Has to be a medical joker.

Is Oisin Heffernan still playing professionally?

Get Salanoa back for a few months?

bayern

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Ah Jesus.

So we only have Bent whose got a serious amount of minutes recently and Clarkson fit for the next block?

If one of them drop in the warm up we wont be able to field a team!

Wonder what the next option is. Has to be a medical joker.

Is Oisin Heffernan still playing professionally?

Get Salanoa back for a few months?

Salanoa is injured last I read.

Heffernan was attached to Nottingham last I saw.

Squidgy Black

Royce Burke Flynn is still playing with Clontarf... Maybe bring in Mick McGrath while we're at it too?

Rigor Mortis

Pity about Parker, he was shaping up as a perfect Pro12 squad player.

We need a medical joker. Nothing fancy, but we are badly exposed.

arsebiscuits1

bayern wrote: »

Salanoa is injured last I read.

Heffernan was attached to Nottingham last I saw.

Let's hope Bobby Sheehan is a quick learner :pac:

kingofthekong

I'm sure Leo is seething about Aungier and Salanoa now

How two players from the same specialist position were lost in the same season is a shocker

arsebiscuits1

kingofthekong wrote: »

I'm sure Leo is seething about Aungier and Salanoa now

How two players from the same specialist position were lost in the same season is a shocker

Not a huge amount Leinster could have done unfortunately.

bayern

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Not a huge amount Leinster could have done unfortunately.

Could have chosen Aungier over Salanoa.

bayern

Sub-academy loosehead prop Marcus Hanan(20/Clane) trained with seniors today:



Sub academy wing/fullback Jamie Osborne(19/Naas) also pictured.

kingofthekong

bayern wrote: »

Sub-academy loosehead prop Marcus Hanan(20/Clane) trained with seniors today:



Sub academy wing/fullback Jamie Osborne(19/Naas) also pictured.

. What a terrible time for Vakh to be out , he really could be making some serious headway in the prop pecking order with so much opportunities going

kingofthekong

bayern wrote: »

Could have chosen Aungier over Salanoa.

Who would be the top rated loosehead of this years and last years U20s ? Did Hannan start ? Including other provinces is hannan up there?

molloyjh

bayern wrote: »

Could have chosen Aungier over Salanoa.

They couldn't have offered Aungier any more game time than Salanoa. The decision re Aungier wasn't solely down to Leinster. And given what happened with Salanoa theres absolutely nothing to suggest Aungier would have stayed anyway.

bayern

molloyjh wrote: »

They couldn't have offered Aungier any more game time than Salanoa. The decision re Aungier wasn't solely down to Leinster. And given what happened with Salanoa theres absolutely nothing to suggest Aungier would have stayed anyway.

Aungier wanted to stay, there wasn't a contract for him with Salanoa supposedly moving to a senior deal, so he went West.

Leinster should have backed the local player who had loyalty to the province.

bayern

kingofthekong wrote: »

Who would be the top rated loosehead of this years and last years U20s ? Did Hannan start ? Including other provinces is hannan up there?

Hanan started the Wales and England game, wasn't available for the scotland game.

This years 20's loosehead will be between Jack Boyle(Leinster), Hugo O'Malley(Leinster), Mark Donnelly(Munster) and George Saunderson(Ulster).

sydthebeat

bayern wrote: »

Aungier wanted to stay, there wasn't a contract for him with Salanoa supposedly moving to a senior deal, so he went West.

Leinster should have backed the local player who had loyalty to the province.

The IRFU encouraged Salanoa to move AFTER Aungier had signed for connacht.

I dont blame either player for moving, nor do i blame leinster for being in a position to choose one or the other.

I certainly blame the IRFU for encouraging a second TH academy prop to move after the other one had agreed to move on as well.

There is nothing in your above statement to show that the IRFU wouldn't have encouraged Aungier to move to munster, as per exactly what they did with Salanoa

Clegg

Ringrose is back in training.

https://twitter.com/leinsterrugby/status/1329439286832205824?s=19

bayern

sydthebeat wrote: »

The IRFU encouraged Salanoa to move AFTER Aungier had signed for connacht.

I dont blame either player for moving, nor do i blame leinster for being in a position to choose one or the other.

I certainly blame the IRFU for encouraging a second TH academy prop to move after the other one had agreed to move on as well.

There is nothing in your above statement to show that the IRFU wouldn't have encouraged Aungier to move to munster, as per exactly what they did with Salanoa

and someone with more loyalty to leinster may have told the IRFU he was happy at his home province. Aungier wouldn't have been the 1st leinster player to do that.

Leinster chose Salanoa over Aungier, which was a mistake in retrospect as Salanoa went back on his word and move to Munster prior to signing a contract with leinster.

sydthebeat

bayern wrote: »

and someone with more loyalty to leinster may have told the IRFU he was happy at his home province. Aungier wouldn't have been the 1st leinster player to do that.

Leinster chose Salanoa over Aungier, which was a mistake in retrospect as Salanoa went back on his word and move to Munster prior to signing a contract with leinster.

Back on his word??

What negotiations were you privy to?

Everything you've said is hypothetical and presumptuous

Serbian

sydthebeat wrote: »

Back on his word??

What negotiations were you privy to?

Everything you've said is hypothetical and presumptuous

Or maybe Leo Cullen publically stated tha Salanoa had agreed to stay and went back on his word?

"The Roman obviously one was a little bit frustrating, when he left, because I was under the impression –because he told me – that he was going to stay," Cullen said.

Source: https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2020/0903/1163036-cullen-dismayed-by-salanoa-switch/

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/simonrug/status/1329474664289214468?s=19

sydthebeat

Serbian wrote: »

Or maybe Leo Cullen publically stated tha Salanoa had agreed to stay and went back on his word?



Source: https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2020/0903/1163036-cullen-dismayed-by-salanoa-switch/

I hadnt read that.

Bad form from salanoa if he reneged on a leinster contract!!!