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Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭ Roycropper63


    Just a thought. Have most of this group sold watches on ebay? Have bought ok. Is there a way of putting a minimum value on a watch in case the bids finish at a too low price. And if going to UK how do ye post etc? Low value seikos etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 31,884 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    You can put a reserve on an ebay auction alright. They tend not to be used as much anymore though as they turn off bidders.

    What I tend to do with ebay listings is just list them with a Buy it Now price that I think is fair and then have a 'make an offer' button on the ad.

    Then sit back and see if any interesting offers come in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭✭ OmegaGene


    EBay is very quite for the Irish market since brexit but it’s worth a try with a buy it now price as mentioned

    I used to sell quite well on eBay U.K. but I don’t bother with the ie version at all now



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭ CalamariFritti


    Just a warning

    Ebay is a minefield for sellers since the buyer can cancel any sale for any spurious reason and you'll be left with all the costs of shipping back & forth. And you can pick the 'no returns' option and write 'no returns' into your ad as much as you like, ebay will always side with the buyer and will tell you that 'free returns for any reason' us just a normal buyer expectation these days and tough sh1t. I once went into a dispute process over such a thing and actually lost the item AND the payment to the buyer. Since then never again.

    Such a returns policy may be ok if you're a professional seller flipping hundreds or thousands of low cost items. Just a percentage game then. But if you're a private seller with just one or two mid prize items with high shipping cost that nonsense can turn your sale into a disaster very easily.



  • Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭ Roycropper63


    Many thanks for replies. Adverts is also a right pain. Back to drawer they go.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭ Roycropper63


    2 of my last 3 attempts on adverts to buy sellers would not accept PayPal at first. One lad relented but 2nd wouldn't. And a third Lad insisted on collection from Dublin. Not everyone lives in or even visits Dublin. Apologies rant over!



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭✭ OmegaGene


    lots of people do not like paypal becasue of the commission charged and also the 180 day return policy, i had a return at 170 days because the watch needed a battery once lol

    99% of the time ebay and paypal both work fine but the horror stories will always stick in peoples heads.


    adverts is okay to sell items on if you just set your price and add room for haggling and just politely decline when you get offered a swap for a bag of chips and a worn tyre



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,091 ✭✭✭ James Bond Junior



    Lads, just arrived back in Ireland over the weekend so threw this up this evening. Any thoughts or tips for the ad?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭ dakar


    I’d go with a photo of the dial as the first photo, the box etc is important but doesn’t catch the eye. I’d also try for a sharper main photo of the dial, the one you have is quite soft and doesn’t show the watch at its best.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭ Lorddrakul


    Here's an interesting suggestion for anyone who is in foreign climes, and worried about their wrist furniture...

    Italian tourism boss suggests stopping watch theft with cheap alternative

    A tourism chief in Naples has come up with a unique solution for any visitors worried about theft in the southern Italian city, after reports the French actor Daniel Auteuil recently had his luxury watch stolen in the area.

    Cesare Foa, the president of the tour operators' association Aidit, says hotels could provide guests who wear expensive watches with cheap plastic alternatives to ensure that their actual timepieces can stay safe while they head out and explore the city.

    Italian news agency ANSA reported last week that Auteuil had a €39,000 Patek Philippe watch stolen from his wrist by two people riding scooters while he was traveling in a taxi with the window open.

    Via CNN International.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,091 ✭✭✭ James Bond Junior


    The photos I took are super sharp but adverts softened them unfortunately.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,460 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    LOL! You couldn't make it up.

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭ dakar


    I wonder what size adverts posts at? They’ve obviously compressed the crap out of them. Might be worth resizing the images to 1500 or 2000 pixels before uploading. DM me if you need a hand.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭✭ OmegaGene


    Adverts doesn’t soften the photos they do compress them slightly , here’s one of mine from adverts and it’s all about getting the lighting and size correct

    the mother of pearl will look lovely with the correct lighting




  • Registered Users Posts: 17,534 ✭✭✭✭ Cyrus


    Has anyone sent a watch Up to pride and pinion via DHL? They sent me a label and it’s being collected tomorrow but are there customs formalities?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,579 ✭✭✭ micks_address




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,460 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    @Cyrus - are you sure insurance is covered? Depends on the value of the watch of course, but I'd be inclined to fly up the M1 and deliver it myself

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭✭ OmegaGene


    Dhl have insurance included depending on the service paid for by the company, I’ve had a few watches go back and forth in Europe and 2 with pride and it’s all gone smoothly, once dhl collects it from you it’s insured by them until it’s signed for the other side

    I think the service is only available for registered businesses, using the dhl economy for example has no cover



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,301 ✭✭✭✭ banie01


    Yeah I've sent 3 there way at this stage. Zero customs and Madeline in their office was always quick to answer any of my packing and shipping queries.



  • Registered Users Posts: 248 ✭✭ Ian OB


    Hope these photos came out okay, some industry thoughts on watch hype in GMT magazine





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  • Registered Users Posts: 248 ✭✭ Ian OB


    Its a fascinating read



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,094 ✭✭✭ 893bet


    If dealing Gavin prepare to be astounded by incompetent to answer an email.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 58,889 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs


    I'm seeing a lot of pieces of late with the sniff of industry and dealers behind them pushing the never gonna end/investment angle on the market to the general public. Hodinkee has had a few including one the other day from auctioneers saying things might be affected by world economies but also Things Have Never Been So Good. What was interesting were the comments below ripping the piss out of them for it. Something you wouldn't have seen even 12 months ago, and/or would have been cut before it hit the page. Their page hits are way down too.

    However sales are very much down save for some pieces and even there most have softened even over the last few months. The market is stagnating, with dealers and flippers holding out for prices that they won't see, and the dealer/flipper to dealer/flipper sales are way down too. The vintage end of things is a limping dodo with sales way down. If you have a Military Watch Forum account go into their PX and look at the lack of new stuff and the list of stuff not shifting at prices way down on even a year ago. Go back in a months time and you'll see endless bumping of many if not most of the same sales and the mil watch stuff has been a solid seller and "investment" for donkey's years. The sales section on WUS is similar.

    It's long been my general take that when the Dogs On The Street reckon(tm) [Thing A] "is an investment y'know", that's the time to pull out of [Thing A]. I've a friend of mine that I could hire out to investment firms as a canary in the coalmine. 😁 Basically he always hears about and then buys into stuff just before it goes bang, or devalues. Among other things going way back he bought a house six months before the crash, mentioned he was getting into crypto late last year and asked me about watches at Christmas...

    Secondly when things are actually good dealers and the industry don't feel the need to advertise nearly so much that things are good. An elderly chap I know is a printer, kinda retired but still keeps his hand in. Real "mom and pop" family operation as the Yanks might say. Very interesting man to chew the fat with. He's seen ups and downs in his long life and back just before the Celtic Tiger went wallop he mentioned in passing that things weren't looking so rosey. I asked him why and he told me he had noticed a major uptick of those in the building industry and other boom businesses looking to print up advertising. As he said mid boom they rarely darkened his door, because they didn't have to and he'd seen that before in the 60's, 70's and 80's as a trend in different businesses or the wider economy, just before a correction kicked off.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭ Lorddrakul




  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭ UhOh


    Put my name down for two Rolex models with an AD at the weekend. Being told 2-3 year wait. For anyone who’s bought with an AD in recent times is this a realistic time scale? I have purchase history with the AD, but not with Rolex.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,460 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    What purchase history do you have?

    What Rolex watches do you want to buy?

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭ UhOh




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,579 ✭✭✭ micks_address


    hard to know.. it feels like watches may become more available this year/next.. ive my name down since last year for a GMT in weirs.. not holding my breath. Spoke to salesperson in Lunns a few months ago and he reckoned he was seeing a fair few cancellations on their wait list and there should be more available..



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,460 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    Unless you've spent a good few tens of thousands on high margin stuff like jewelery / undesirable watches, you can forget about it. Waiting lists don't really exist. If you want a Rolex steel sports, go buy one from a reputable second hand dealer. Or you will be waiting forever.

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭ scwazrh


    Is that what you have previously bought or is that what youve asked to buy ?



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