Do looks matter in life?

noubliezjamais

Apart from advantages in getting sex/relationships, do you think there are practical benefits in getting a job interview, getting free meals etc..

One of my female friends said she got a free taxi ride in Canada and told the driver beforehand that she didn't have money. "pussy pass" as they call it. If that were a man, would it have happened. probably not.

OldMrBrennan83

They're really all that matters. Better looking people will always be treated better by people in general and will be pushed upwards easier in the workplace.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Ah yeah, they do a bit. Everyone likes looking at purdy people.

ToddyDoody

Society is only skin deep.

q85dw7osi4lebg

That's what I love about Boards, we are probably all mingers but we all love each other and treat each other the same.

Except the cycling forum.

Deep down, I'm superficial.

Cryptopagan

It’s very clear from politics that looks and success go hand in hand. The likes of Merkel, Trump, Enda Kenny are exceedingly beautiful and it has helped them rise to the top.

divide_by_zero

Cryptopagan wrote: »

It’s very clear from politics that looks and success go hand in hand. The likes of Merkel, Trump, Enda Kenny are exceedingly beautiful and it has helped them rise to the top.

I remember someone telling me once that politics was show business for ugly people. Made me laugh some.

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EmmetSpiceland

Appearance is vitally important in business. Smart clothes, smart shoes, smart haircut, clean shaven, and a firm handshake with clear eye contact are all essential.

Even a 3 in Dublin can move up to a 6, even a 7 if the hair is right, with a nice suit.

Looking like a scruff in bootcut jeans, converse all stars, some sort of band or “novelty” tshirt, and a pubey beard won’t get you very far.

Plumbthedepths

You can be an ugly b**tard and have a great life but usually vast amounts of money is necessary for this .
Quote by footballer Peter Crouch when asked what would he be if he were not a footballer, his reply "a virgin".

Ulysses Gaze

Amaya Fluffy Wagon wrote: »

That's what I love about Boards, we are probably all mingers but we all love each other and treat each other the same.

Except the cycling forum.

And those that put pineapple on Pizza.

jobbridge4life

Looks matter, smarts matter, money matters, charm matters, humour matters. These are all skills/resources to be exploited. It works just as well for men as women.

In terms of sex, sex with women humour is more important really than looks. Sex with men, humour still helps, but body is more important.

Apiarist

noubliezjamais wrote: »

Apart from advantages in getting sex/relationships, do you think there are practical benefits in getting a job interview, getting free meals etc...

Obviously they do. If you are trying to get into an IT support position and you look too good in a suit, clean shaven and bright eyed, you would immediately raise a suspicion.

Junkyard Tom

Not really.

If Brexit and Trumpism has proved anything it's that incompetent clowns can be successful as long as they're born into privilege and sound like they're know what they're doing.

Plumbthedepths

Junkyard Tom wrote:

If Brexit and Trumpism has proved anything it's that incompetent clowns can be successful as long as they're born into privilege and sound like they're know what they're doing.

Irish politics has already demonstrated this tbh.

jobbridge4life

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Not really.

If Brexit and Trumpism has proved anything it's that incompetent clowns can be successful as long as they're born into privilege and sound like they're know what they're doing.

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Who thinks Trump sounds like he knows what he's doing? I mean even his devotees regularly say 'oh thats not what meant'/'oh he was being funny'.

'Looks' shouldn't be thought of in an unneccessarily narrow way.

castletownman

You mean there's more to life than being really, really, really, ridiculously good-looking?

Your Face

Im hideously good-looking.

Nikki Sixx

Money does seem to be attractive to women. A male 5 can get s female 10, with enough cash.

Looks aren't all that matter but they count for a great deal. I'd say men have more leeway in terms of non-conventional looks but both genders seem to have to try that bit harder at most things if they're not gifted with a pleasant visage.

You can make up for a lot of it with style, individuality and personality, so it's not a lost cause if you're not classically good looking.

In the end, everyone's looks fade and what's left behind is what you have to deal with for most of your adult life.

Littlehorny

I worked in a place where a girl from the factory floor got a job upstairs in the offices and no way in hell was it anything to do with her education, skills or experience. She is actually a very nice person but everyone knew why she was picked for the job.

LessOutragePlz

Looks catch the eye but personality catches the heart.

Dash_Of_Red

Being good looking is an advantage. Being funny is too, creative, wealthy, bla bla bla... All advantages. Some you're lucky to have and some you earn or learn.
I'd rather be with a person who makes me laugh than be with a good-looking person if its one or the other. But I'd rather be good looking than funny myself, in the hope I could learn to be funny.
It's all subjective and relative etc....

But what we all ultimately want is to be happy and no one thing gets ya there. Just a myriad of crap and ultimately too much emphasis gets placed on good looks in our society.

Titzon Toast

castletownman wrote: »

You mean there's more to life than being really, really, really, ridiculously good-looking?

You're just as likely to die in a horrible gasoline fight accident.

Nikki Sixx

I just wanted to ask the following without derailing the thread. Are funny people only funny because they are fat or not attractive? If a funny person overcompensating for their lack of looks? Does an attractive person not have to try to be funny?

Franz Von Peppercorn

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Appearance is vitally important in business. Smart clothes, smart shoes, smart haircut, clean shaven, and a firm handshake with clear eye contact are all essential.

Even a 3 in Dublin can move up to a 6, even a 7 if the hair is right, with a nice suit.

Looking like a scruff in bootcut jeans, converse all stars, some sort of band or “novelty” tshirt, and a pubey beard won’t get you very far.

It works ok with google employees.

marcbrophy

Your Face wrote: »

Im hideously good-looking.

I'm just hideous

Censored11

Looks do matter. Use them while u have them, because they don't last.

Wibbs

Candie wrote: »

In the end, everyone's looks fade and what's left behind is what you have to deal with for most of your adult life.

Censored11 wrote: »

Use them while u have them, because they don't last.

This seems to be a fairly consistent refrain in such threads and debates. I don't get it. OK if you're 70 or something, but if you stay slim and healthy, don't look like your face got slapped with a shovel in childhood and you haven't the kind of babyface that goes off the boil by 20, your looks at 30, 40, even up to 60 don't shift that much. A good looking 20 year old is still going to be a good looking 40 year old. So you've a few decades before you should be reaching for the elasticated sweatpants and giving up. Goes double for men. Other than going bald(which can be worked around) they don't have the hormonal shifts or pregnancy or thinner skin and more fat tissue of women, so have far fewer excuses to "fade".

Wibbs

Wibbs wrote: »

Other than going bald(which can be worked around)

Can only be worked around if you've the right hormonal profile, not an option for everyone

Sure look at Prince William - he's gonna be the King of England and yet he can do nowt about his hairloss

Censored11

Wibbs wrote: »

This seems to be a fairly consistent refrain in such threads and debates. I don't get it. OK if you're 70 or something, but if you stay slim and healthy, don't look like your face got slapped with a shovel in childhood and you haven't the kind of babyface that goes off the boil by 20, your looks at 30, 40, even up to 60 don't shift .

My favourite member on boards Wibbs has given me hope!
Im 40s and bald so feel like Im past it. Was a ride in my teens & twenties though

paleoperson

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

They're really all that matters. Better looking people will always be treated better by people in general and will be pushed upwards easier in the workplace.

Absolute rubbish. Everyone who thanked this post is DUMB.

mad muffin

I’ve been skating on my good looks for most of my life…

rgodard80a

noubliezjamais wrote: »

Apart from advantages in getting sex/relationships, do you think there are practical benefits in getting a job interview, getting free meals etc..

"Free stuff" sounds more like in the female domain.. no offense intended.

I'd imagine women learn fairly fast there's no such thing as a free lunch and would learn from bad experiences about leading men on.
Also, I imagine most women would feel threatened/bitchy about attractive women unless they were really down to earth.
So I'd say personality has to be coupled with this.
I've read that attractive women can actually be quite lonely, where other women will be bitchy against them and men can be intimidated by them.
Maybe that's where the gay male friends come in.

The big payoff to attractiveness is always having the pick of the opposite sex, again depending on personality and status/earning power. Being the alpha male/female is a natural instinct but you have to expect people pecking at your status.

So looks alone won't get you everything, social skills and not rubbing peoples noses in it/being humble really nails it.

rossie1977

Name someone ugly in a leading role on TV or the movies. Do you think Emilia Clarke or Kit Harrington get their roles in Game of Thrones if they are ugly?

noubliezjamais

rgodard80a wrote: »

"Free stuff" sounds more like in the female domain.. no offense intended.


Maybe that's where the gay male friends come in.

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I think this tends to be false in Ireland. The "girls have a best gay male friend". It seems that in general, friendships are more strictly segregated by gender in Ireland than other nations.

punt mor

the better you look, the more you see...

pgj2015

they matter to stupid people. i have been asked out by a couple of good looking women in the last couple of years but i could tell from talking to them that they weren't genuine, i told them i wasn't looking to see anyone. one of them straight out asked me what i earned.


a friend of mine was always obsessed by looks, he is with a good looking girl now but by all accounts shes not a very nice person.

mikemac2

rossie1977 wrote: »

Name someone ugly in a leading role on TV or the movies. Do you think Emilia Clarke or Kit Harrington get their roles in Game of Thrones if they are ugly?

Steve Buscemi has had a successful and highly paid career on TV and film

Roger Hassenforder

mikemac2 wrote: »

Steve Buscemi has had a successful and highly paid career on TV and film

He was kinda funny looking

paleoperson

mikemac2 wrote: »

Steve Buscemi has had a successful and highly paid career on TV and film

Sylvestor Stallone, Danny Devito, Lena Headey, Maisie Williams, Sean Bean (good-looking in youth but not by the time he's in GoT). Jack Nicholson. Jack Black. Bruce Willis as he gets older. Daniel Craig is immensely ugly. People don't like guys that are too good-looking.

Looks literally don't matter unless you're playing the good-looking guy. It's all in your head.

noubliezjamais

pgj2015 wrote: »

they matter to stupid people. i have been asked out by a couple of good looking women in the last couple of years but i could tell from talking to them that they weren't genuine, i told them i wasn't looking to see anyone. one of them straight out asked me what i earned.


a friend of mine was always obsessed by looks, he is with a good looking girl now but by all accounts shes not a very nice person.

What do you mean by genuine.

Are you good looking yourself?

You know the trop of "hot girl with bad personality" I've found isn't true. In fact, It seems to me that the hottest girls I've met were confident. I was at a grinds and this hot columbian/irish girl just sat next to me and chatted to me and she said cause I looked lonely. In fairness, she did have an issue with race (said I was a weird black guy) but apart from that, she seemed chatty and nice.

In contrast, I've found the less attractive a girl, the less confident. Now don't get me wrong, being nice and confident aren't mutually exclusive but you know...

Teddy Daniels

paleoperson wrote: »

Sylvestor Stallone, Danny Devito, Lena Headey, Maisie Williams, Sean Bean (good-looking in youth but not by the time he's in GoT). Jack Nicholson. Jack Black. Bruce Willis as he gets older. Daniel Craig is immensely ugly. People don't like guys that are too good-looking.

Looks literally don't matter unless you're playing the good-looking guy. It's all in your head.

Lol whut?

paleoperson

Teddy Daniels wrote: »

Lol whut?

ah come on, you can do better than that.

Neames

I'll say one thing about good looking people.

We're not well liked.

Church on Tuesday

noubliezjamais wrote: »

Apart from advantages in getting sex/relationships, do you think there are practical benefits in getting a job interview, getting free meals etc..

One of my female friends said she got a free taxi ride in Canada and told the driver beforehand that she didn't have money. "pussy pass" as they call it. If that were a man, would it have happened. probably not.

Taxi man's a bigger fool.

marto501

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Taxi man's a bigger fool.

Or maybe just maybe he was a decent guy who didn’t like the idea of a young woman being left to find her own way home without any money.

pgj2015

noubliezjamais wrote: »

What do you mean by genuine.

Are you good looking yourself?

You know the trop of "hot girl with bad personality" I've found isn't true. In fact, It seems to me that the hottest girls I've met were confident. I was at a grinds and this hot columbian/irish girl just sat next to me and chatted to me and she said cause I looked lonely. In fairness, she did have an issue with race (said I was a weird black guy) but apart from that, she seemed chatty and nice.

In contrast, I've found the less attractive a girl, the less confident. Now don't get me wrong, being nice and confident aren't mutually exclusive but you know...

genuine women who like you for you not what they can get out of you.

i get told i'm good looking a bit so id say i'm not too bad.

i'm not saying all good looking women have bad personalities, i was just saying that i run a mile from women if i get the vibe off them that they are fake and not a nice person. i would rather an average looking woman who is genuine than a model who isn't a nice person.

Dash_Of_Red

Censored11 wrote: »

Looks do matter. Use them while u have them, because they don't last.

True. Also there's a big tendency amongst people to figure out their biggest asset and flaw and then focus on both. If looks are your positive and then they fade it can end up leading to you chasing your tail.
You will end up miserable. But if you have X Y Z going for you anyway then being good looking is a lovely bonus to have.

Gimme A Pound

noubliezjamais wrote: »

One of my female friends said she got a free taxi ride in Canada and told the driver beforehand that she didn't have money. "pussy pass" as they call it. If that were a man, would it have happened. probably not.

Such a thing wouldn't exist if the men stupid enough to entertain it didn't do so.

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Looks matter, smarts matter, money matters, charm matters, humour matters. These are all skills/resources to be exploited. It works just as well for men as women.

In terms of sex, sex with women humour is more important really than looks. Sex with men, humour still helps, but body is more important.

What?

paleoperson wrote: »

Absolute rubbish. Everyone who thanked this post is DUMB.

I agree that he's being extremely simplistic when he says looks are the only thing that matter, however I disagree with your other post where you say looks don't matter and it's all in people's head. There are definitely areas where being good-looking gives people an advantage, not just the obvious sexual attraction side of things - I don't think it's always even conscious. It does make a difference in terms of how people react to you (me out for a run, then buying milk on the way back - versus me dressed up Saturday evening and popping into the same shop for a bottle of wine; shur the guys at the tills acted completely differently towards me) and for jobs it's going to make a difference too. Take two people with the exact same training and experience - one is good-looking, the other isn't... Image is hugely important in many areas whether we like it or not. But I agree that looks aren't absolutely everything, and they alone won't help a person to get ahead. But they can help.

I agree with you there are plenty of successful actors who win major roles and who aren't beautiful, because film and TV characters aren't always beautiful, but different story for other areas of entertainment. I disagree too that Daniel Craig is extremely ugly - he may not be traditionally "hunky" but he's far from ugly! Ditto Lena Headey. Sly was all right looking in the Rocky/Rambo days.