Disgraceful of RTE and Virgin TV and fair play to Sky News for showing the very sad

AMKC

Disgraceful of RTE and Virgin TV and fair play to Sky News for showing the very sad Funeral of Lyra Mckee.

May she Rest in Peace.

She did not deserve to be shot by these thugs stuck in a past that should be left behind now.

She died too soon and had so much to live for but in her short life she accomplished a lot.

My condolences to her partner, family and friends.

sligojoek

It was broadcast on RTE News Now and online.

uch

They didn't broadcast very many of the thousands of funerals in the North during the troubles, whats changed now?

Grayson

uch wrote: »

They didn't broadcast very many of the thousands of funerals in the North during the troubles, whats changed now?

For a lot of the troubles they wouldn't have the technology to show them. And when they did, they wouldn't have the time to show them unless they cut into programming on RTE 1 & 2. And there were loads of them. so that's all we would have been watching on TV.

Canis Lupus

Why do we need to watch her funeral on TV?

What IS disgraceful is the number of politicians falling over themselves to attend.

Gimme A Pound

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Why do we need to watch her funeral on TV?

Exactly.

What's "disgraceful" about it? Maybe RTE and Virgin Media aren't able to show it. But why check into the reasons when you can go on a good rant.

NIMAN

Walter Slimy Mole wrote: »

Exactly.

What's "disgraceful" about it? Maybe RTE and Virgin Media aren't able to show it. But why check into the reasons when you can go on a good rant.

RTE did show it. So op just ranting.

Pherekydes

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Why do we need to watch her funeral on TV?

You don't!

You can watch whatever you want.

Plumbthedepths

Fairly sure it will be on the Six one news with the politicians looking suitably somber for the cameras.

AMKC

sligojoek wrote: »

It was broadcast on RTE News Now and online.

Awe I did not know that.

AMKC

Walter Slimy Mole wrote: »

Exactly.

What's "disgraceful" about it? Maybe RTE and Virgin Media aren't able to show it. But why check into the reasons when you can go on a good rant.

I am not having a rant was just saying. They would have no problem having a news special if the Government collapsed tomorrow just like they did the specials in 2010 when the then taoisoech stepped down and the dreaded IMF came into the country. I only came across it on Sky news accidentally.

NIMAN wrote: »

RTE did show it. So op just ranting.

Did not know they had it online or on news now and only came across it on Sky News by accident.

Hoboo

If it was the important to you, you should have attended.

AMKC

Hoboo wrote: »

If it was the important to you, you should have attended.

I never said that. I just said fair to Sky for showing it. I was not looking for it or expecting it. It was a very sad funeral do and no I did not watch it all.

Amirani

AMKC wrote: »

They would have no problem having a news special if the Government collapsed tomorrow just like they did the specials in 2010 when the then taoisoech stepped down and the dreaded IMF came into the country. I only came across it on Sky news accidentally.

This is more relevant for most people in this country than watching a funeral mass.

Yermande

Sky pick up the rights to everything. I'm surprised Jamie Redknapp wasn't there in his Communion trousers.

Mortelaro

In fairness all rte news bulletins on radio this morning flagged it was going to be on rte news now and at what time

Mr E

It was a tragedy what happened to Lyra and I hope the people responsible are found, locked up and the key is thrown away.

Having said that, getting worked up about a funeral for someone (that very few people had heard of before last week) not being televised is bananas, sorry. I also think televising the funeral (and broadcasting peoples' grief for all to see) is over the top, voyeuristic and an invasion of privacy. Let the poor family grieve in peace.

fryup

uch wrote: »

They didn't broadcast very many of the thousands of funerals in the North during the troubles, whats changed now?

well, for one thing to put these idiots to shame...and make sure this cr@p never starts up again

Yermande

Mr E wrote: »

It was a tragedy what happened to Lyra and I hope the people responsible are found, locked up and the key is thrown away.

Having said that, getting worked up about a funeral for someone (that very few people had heard of before last week) not being televised is bananas, sorry. I also think televising the funeral (and broadcasting peoples' grief for all to see) is over the top, voyeuristic and an invasion of privacy. Let the poor family grieve in peace.

I've lost three immediate family members since 2014, all of them sudden and way before their time. I cannot even begin to imagine what it's like being photographed or recorded while you're saying your final goodbyes, not to mention dealing with those types of surrounding circumstances. Bizarre that people would want to watch it televised or feel that they are in someway paying their respects by doing so.

marketty

Yermande wrote:

I've lost three immediate family members since 2014, all of them sudden and way before their time. I cannot even begin to imagine what it's like being photographed or recorded while you're saying your final goodbyes, not to mention dealing with those types of surrounding circumstances. Bizarre that people would want to watch it televised or feel that they are in someway paying their respects by doing so.

Totally agree. Funnily enough, I can understand the OPs surprise, RTE/Virgin broadcasting it would be more in line with Irish people's fetishisation of funerals than Sky doing it for a mainly British audience

Yermande

marketty wrote: »

Totally agree. Funnily enough, I can understand the OPs surprise, RTE/Virgin broadcasting it would be more in line with Irish people's fetishisation of funerals than Sky doing it for a mainly British audience

Sky love nothing more than a good old tragedy. Natural disasters are ideal because they're politically neutral. Next in line are terrorist atrocities, or just plain lethal cowardice, as the lines are clearly drawn and we can all congratulate ourselves on being the good guys. If there's anything even remotely contentious it's time to switch over to Al Jazeera, a station that's not afraid to cover itself in other people's shít.

Gimme A Pound

Mr E wrote: »

getting worked up about a funeral for someone (that very few people had heard of before last week) not being televised is bananas, sorry. I also think televising the funeral (and broadcasting peoples' grief for all to see) is over the top, voyeuristic and an invasion of privacy. Let the poor family grieve in peace.

It's in poor taste in my opinion.

As said, what about all of the other funerals not being televised? Because Twitter.

Why would anyone consider something as horrific as the funeral of a lovely young brave person shot for no reason, to be spectacle worthy?

colm_mcm

Pherekydes wrote: »

You don't!

You can watch whatever you want.

Not if there’s a funeral on instead of Jeremy Kyle or whatever people watch.

Mortelaro

Mr E wrote: »

It was a tragedy what happened to Lyra and I hope the people responsible are found, locked up and the key is thrown away.

Having said that, getting worked up about a funeral for someone (that very few people had heard of before last week) not being televised is bananas, sorry. I also think televising the funeral (and broadcasting peoples' grief for all to see) is over the top, voyeuristic and an invasion of privacy. Let the poor family grieve in peace.

True in most cases,but the family and partner of Lyra would have given permission for the transmission meaning as many people as possible shared in the celebration of her life and got the poignant message delivered by Fr McGill chastising politicians out there

Pauliedragon

Deleted User wrote: »

What IS disgraceful is the number of politicians falling over themselves to attend.

I think times like these are a lose lose for pollies. Attend it's attention seeking. If they stay away people will say it's disrespect to the families.

lertsnim

AMKC wrote: »

Disgraceful of RTE and Virgin TV and fair play to Sky News for showing the very sad Funeral of Lyra Mckee.

May she Rest in Peace.

She did not deserve to be shot by these thugs stuck in a past that should be left behind now.

She died too soon and had so much to live for but in her short life she accomplished a lot.

My condolences to her partner, family and friends.

Disgraceful you say and you didn't even check if it was shown on the channels you criticise.

Did TG4 or Channel 4 show it? Are they disgraceful too for not wanting to beam a persons funeral into peoples homes?


Personally I wouldn't be put out if nobody showed a funeral as like others I think a family's grief should be private but I guess not everyone would agree with that.

ligerdub

AMKC wrote:

I never said that. I just said fair to Sky for showing it. I was not looking for it or expecting it. It was a very sad funeral do and no I did not watch it all.

You think it's a disgrace that RTE didn't show it, yet you didn't check that and it was and you didn't even watch any of it?

Probably the most bizarre complaint I've ever heard.

marketty

Yermande wrote:

Sky love nothing more than a good old tragedy. Natural disasters are ideal because they're politically neutral. Next in line are terrorist atrocities, or just plain lethal cowardice, as the lines are clearly drawn and we can all congratulate ourselves on being the good guys. If there's anything even remotely contentious it's time to switch over to Al Jazeera, a station that's not afraid to cover itself in other people's shít.

Very true, but I've only ever seen Irish stations cover funerals the way they do. Usually Ciaran Mullooly or Plastic Sheeting after some horrific road collision, talking about how this tragedy has 'rocked' the small community of Ballynahiginasagart, with a soundbite from an octagenarian priest relayed over tinny loudspeakers outside the church.
Pretty much every evening on 6.1. Grim stuff

Guy:Incognito

AMKC wrote: »

I am not having a rant was just saying. They would have no problem having a news special if the Government collapsed tomorrow


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The government collapsing would be very important actual news.


This is a funeral. Its not like it happened out of the blue (the funeral, not the killing)

Gimme A Pound

AMKC wrote: »

I am not having a rant was just saying. They would have no problem having a news special if the Government collapsed tomorrow just like they did the specials in 2010 when the then taoisoech stepped down and the dreaded IMF came into the country.

Well obviously. That's news. How is a funeral news?

Squatter

Walter Slimy Mole wrote: »

Well obviously. That's news. How is a funeral news?

The funeral itself isn't news. It's the attendance of the great and the good that is the newsy bit.

Pauliedragon

Pauliedragon wrote: »

I think times like these are a lose lose for pollies. Attend it's attention seeking. If they stay away people will say it's disrespect to the families.

ONE representative would have been enough. What was Catherine Zappone doing there? Or Simon Coveney. Madness.

Let her loved ones grieve in peace.

NIMAN

There was an ulterior motive by giving the funeral so much media coverage today.

It is to try to get these scumbags to deliver a ceasefire, and pack in shooting people.

That's why so many high profile dignitaries were there today. To ramp up the outrage and make it into the worst thing to happen in the north in 20 years, even if it was or not.

Had a young policeman of the same age or less been hit by that bullet there would not have been that turnout today, and the media coverage would have died down well before now.

But the death of this young girl is a great chance to get things to change, and the powers that be don't want to waste it.

The fact that a few digs were thrown at a few local politicians was a nice sideshow too, but like the New IRA, I don't think it'll make them change their ways either. If they were sincere, they would get the assembly up and running from tomorrow.

But I wouldn't hold my breath

Hurrache

sligojoek wrote: »

It was broadcast on RTE News Now and online.

Don't dare post sense and deny their rush to be outraged at our national broadcaster.

AMKC

lertsnim wrote: »

Disgraceful you say and you didn't even check if it was shown on the channels you criticise.

Did TG4 or Channel 4 show it? Are they disgraceful too for not wanting to beam a persons funeral into peoples homes?


Personally I wouldn't be put out if nobody showed a funeral as like others I think a family's grief should be private but I guess not everyone would agree with that.

I did check the two channels I mentioned and they did not have it on.

Why would Channel 4 show it they are a private British channel and have there hour long news to show it on. As for TG4 no idea very rarely watch it but doubt it.

ligerdub wrote: »

You think it's a disgrace that RTE didn't show it, yet you didn't check that and it was and you didn't even watch any of it?

Probably the most bizarre complaint I've ever heard.

RTE were not showing it on 1 or 2 anyway only on News Now and online.

I did watch a little of it just not it all it was over 2 hours long and I did not get the beginning of it.

Walter Slimy Mole wrote: »

Well obviously. That's news. How is a funeral news?

Check below.

Squatter wrote: »

The funeral itself isn't news. It's the attendance of the great and the good that is the newsy bit.

Exactly.

Deleted User wrote: »

ONE representative would have been enough. What was Catherine Zappone doing there? Or Simon Coveney. Madness.

Let her loved ones grieve in peace.

They were showing their respect.

NIMAN wrote: »

There was an ulterior motive by giving the funeral so much media coverage today.

It is to try to get these scumbags to deliver a ceasefire, and pack in shooting people.

That's why so many high profile dignitaries were there today. To ramp up the outrage and make it into the worst thing to happen in the north in 20 years, even if it was or not.

Had a young policeman of the same age or less been hit by that bullet there would not have been that turnout today, and the media coverage would have died down well before now.

But the death of this young girl is a great chance to get things to change, and the powers that be don't want to waste it.

The fact that a few digs were thrown at a few local politicians was a nice sideshow too, but like the New IRA, I don't think it'll make them change their ways either. If they were sincere, they would get the assembly up and running from tomorrow.

But I wouldn't hold my breath

Thank you well said.

JP Liz V1

It was shown on the news, what did you want full day's coverage?

sligojoek

Hurrache wrote: »

Don't dare post sense and deny their rush to be outraged at our national broadcaster.

No better buachaill than myself to give out about RTEbut they don't give that kind of coverage to anyone but dead ex Presidents or Taoisaigh. I don't watch TV during the day but it was mentioned and got 10 - 15 minutes on every show on Radio 1 bar Ronan Collins. They flagged it well that it would be on RTE News Now and online if anyone wanted to watch.

Gimme A Pound

AMKC wrote: »

I did check the two channels I mentioned and they did not have it on.

Why would Channel 4 show it they are a private British channel and have there hour long news to show it on. As for TG4 no idea very rarely watch it but doubt it.



RTE were not showing it on 1 or 2 anyway only on News Now and online.

I did watch a little of it just not it all it was over 2 hours long and I did not get the beginning of it.

Check below.



Exactly.



They were showing their respect.




Thank you well said.

But why is the attendance news?

lertsnim

AMKC wrote: »

Why would Channel 4 show it they are a private British channel and have there hour long news to show it on.

Channel 4 is a broadcaster that covers Northern Ireland. You know that place where Derry is? It is also a publicly owned broadcaster and not private. So why is it only Irish channels who are worthy of your "disgraceful"

This thread is nothing more than a stick to beat Irish channels with. Disgraceful to use such a story to do it.

mgn

How many of these politicians would be at it if it was not televised or didn't get photos splashed across the newspapers tomorrow.Not many i would think.

AMKC

lertsnim wrote: »

Channel 4 is a broadcaster that covers Northern Ireland. You know that place where Derry is? It is also a publicly owned broadcaster and not private. So why is it only Irish channels who are worthy of your "disgraceful"

This thread is nothing more than a stick to beat Irish channels with. Disgraceful to use such a story to do it.

I have nothing against Irish Channels and watch them often.

You are right about Channel 4 and I was wrong but unlike BBC 1 or 2 Channal 4 is commercial self funded. it does not receive any money free the tv license there.

lertsnim

AMKC wrote: »

I have nothing against Irish Channels and watch them often.

You are right about Channel 4 and I was wrong but unlike BBC 1 or 2 Channal 4 is commercial self funded. it does not receive any money free the tv license there.

But Virgin Media were still called Disgraceful by yourself. They are funded by adverts. The public service broadcaster of Ireland showed it.

gormdubhgorm

AMKC wrote: »

Disgraceful of RTE and Virgin TV and fair play to Sky News for showing the very sad Funeral of Lyra Mckee.

May she Rest in Peace.

She did not deserve to be shot by these thugs stuck in a past that should be left behind now.

She died too soon and had so much to live for but in her short life she accomplished a lot.

My condolences to her partner, family and friends.

Can you not see the way this is going?
Lyra McKee as now become a cause that is the antipathy of Bobby Sands/Terrence McSwinney but a cause none-the-less.
Lyra McKee has now become more famous and valuable in death than she ever would have been in her short life. LGBT rights activist, an epitome of a new Ireland etc. As the media now brand her as. The colours of the lettering of the 'Lyra McKee' floral tribute only feed into that.
But I for one would never have even heard of her until she was murdered.
And I got to be honest when I read more about her my thoughts were oh they shot the 'wee lesbian' admittedly that was because I was watching the series 'Derry Girls' where that phrase 'wee lesbian' is used.
But for me I just hope it can move those in power and who are supposed to be in power to wake up.
But I sincerely doubt it.

Edit: Plus any coverage of Lyra McKee now sells papers and gets media interest and makes the media money.

Gimme A Pound

Pauliedragon wrote: »

I think times like these are a lose lose for pollies. Attend it's attention seeking. If they stay away people will say it's disrespect to the families.

Absolutely.

Although in my opinion, very few public representatives should attend, and it shouldn't be shown on TV. It's not a ****ing circus.

blackvalley

AMKC wrote: »

Disgraceful of RTE and Virgin TV and fair play to Sky News for showing the very sad Funeral of Lyra McKee

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Very sad funeral ? . As opposed to what other sort of funeral .

endacl

blackvalley wrote: »

Very sad funeral ? . As opposed to what other sort of funeral .

The kind Thatcher got.

Dancing in the streets.

yabadabado

Can a mod close this ?
OP using a tragedy to have a rant about Irish TV stations.

Spon Farmer

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Fairly sure it will be on the Six one news with the politicians looking suitably somber for the cameras.

Was I imagining it or did Arlene Foster and Mary Lou McDonald both "pull a face" when the priest asked why it took a woman's murder to get politicians together?

Mr E

I think we'll draw a line under this now.
To bring the thread full circle:

AMKC wrote: »

May she Rest in Peace.

She did not deserve to be shot by these thugs stuck in a past that should be left behind now.

She died too soon and had so much to live for but in her short life she accomplished a lot.

My condolences to her partner, family and friends.