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Zgemma H7s Guide

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭necstandards


    No i actually never bothered - couldnt justify the cost being honest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭andy1249


    I very much doubt it , especially if we are talking about the LG smart remote.

    However , you can easily get the LG remote to control the box , Ive got a CX and it has controlled all of my enigma 2 boxes so far , thats Tiviar , H7s , H82H , Octagon S8008 , VU Duo 4K SE.

    If you are going that way , make sure its done properly , go to HDMI control and set up the box properly , that means a series of boxes to fill as to the maker , model number etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭andy1249


    bad post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭andy1249


    Enable CEC and the options should appear , there is no guide anymore with most TVs , just an online manual for the smart OS.

    https://www.lg.com/us/support/help-library/lg-tv-how-to-setup-universal-control--20153821595119



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Never bothered trying to setup things like that and have 4 remotes beside me for different uses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭stwome01


    Sorry if this has been discussed before. I am getting rid of SkyQ and I was thinking of putting back an Zgemma H7S that I was using a few years back.

    First I have freesat on a LG TV (LG OLED55CS6LA) coming from the same dish which works fine. I trying tuning in the Zgemma and I am just getting 35 Encrypted Sky channels in the scan 0n Astra 2E/2F/2G.

    Am I doing something wrong or is it the LNB?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭swoofer


    When you got sky q the lnb was changed to wideband and as you have freesat still working you have a hybrid lnb with legacy outputs. The 2 leads for the sky q box need to be connected to the spare outputs on the lnb. The sky q outputs may not be obvious so mark them. But you may have 2 dishes!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭stwome01


    Thanks for the help. Definitely only have the one dish 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭cathy427


    I got the zgemma h7s.

    The seller had set up the UK channels . Its effectively this https://sat-city.ie/product/free-tv-pro-bundle-combo-box/

    but I just got the box not the installation service. So its has the UK channels in a nice order.

    I have added the saorview channels.

    However it has added them into a separate folder/bouquet.

    Is there a way of combining the two bouquet to have them in a nice order in a single list?

    I tried the ABM but it just brought all the channels in a non-user friendly order.

    I know I need to do updates but I read on the thread that you can have 4 different ... partitions... (?) but don't want to make changes to the set up that is working until I learn more how to use the box.

    It's running openvix 5.4 and using bluehd skin.

    So basically can I easily combine the new saorview list with the existing UK list ?

    Post edited by cathy427 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,091 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    You can I think by use of 'favourites' and ABM is highly configurable too.

    A good few users here seem to swear by the 'favourites' method. As in they copy everything they like into their favourites and just use the favourites bouquet then. You can mix them in favourites.

    It should be possible to have mixed bouquets in ABM too. But from what I know in ABM it's not so easy to do in a way that wouldnt all undo it and revert to the predefined schemes next time you run ABM. Which you will want to do when channels change or new ones come along.
    Underlying reason for the separation of Saorview & SAT bouquets wise is probably that both services are different tech and therefore are on a different tuner and therefore different scan runs and also have different methods for acquiring the EPG data.

    Me personally I just have a Saorview bouquet and then UK-Entertainment, UK-This, UK-That … I dont mind the separation. It's not like there are that many Saorview channels anyway. And it's quite easy to configure in a native ABM way which is a big plus if you dont want to be at that box manually every time some channels change. You just run ABM again finished.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭cathy427


    Thanks for the detailed reply. Very much appreciated.

    Can you add the rte player or virgin media player to the zgemma?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,091 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭keano25


    Easiest way to get saorview picons?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,091 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    make sure you have 'enigma2-settings-feed' as a source, then install 'enigma2-plugin-picons-snp-full.100x60-86x46.dark.on.transparent'

    probably other ways but this works for me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,109 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    I have 2 identical H7s's, both on the exact same software and everything as far as I can tell, one in my living room that gets used a lot, the other in the tenants living room thats rarely used. Once a week or so I look at the rarely used one and the time on the lcd on the front will be wrong meaning it has frozen again and will need a reboot, is there anything you can think of that might be causing that? Something to do with EPG settings or something?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,091 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Happens the same with mine cant get to the bottom of it. Havent found conclusive logs for it either. Seems something with epg updates bt not sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,109 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    I remember being told to set my EPG to do something but I cant remember what it was or find the post, I might have done it on mine and forgot to do it on the other one, does anyone remember what that was?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭swoofer


    Are both boxes with the internal HDD, ie not sticking out at rear? The epg should be saved to HDD or usb so go to EPG settings and look for location and see if it says HDD if not change it from internal flash. Another thing to check is how the epg is loaded, you dont say image and vix with openepg is best. Also you may have epgimporter running. finally check the tuner config to ensure both are getting a signal.

    The other thing you can do is change the psu but not on your box as doing constant reboots from rear is a no no.

    you have have to check the HDD as well ie disconnect and reconnect and when box is openlook for fat capacitors.

    as you get 7 day epg you could turn that off and see what happens

    That fault is a pain and can indicate the box is goosed.

    can you say the image and skin menu about information or similar



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,091 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    EPG is going to the SSD yes and I already disabled OpenTV and I'm just running with XML providers for now. Meaning its just download and not firing up the SAT tuner in the middle of the night.

    Will try the other way around next for a while.

    Due to lack of logging info I cant even be certain it is CrossEPG. For now I'm assuming it is, since it's the only process I have on cron. I'd like to believe that the base system, kernel, daemons, whatever runs at idle, is not randomly crashing. Here's hoping anyway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    My H7S also crashes but could be during the day and not early morning when epg runs.

    Never found out why , even told possible power supply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭Don Juan II


    I have 2 H7S recievers from World of Satellite (I have been using enigma2 receivers from WoS for years as have a lot of my family/friends). I have bought several recievers from them and never had an issue.

    Anyway, I bought 2 H7S receivers in 2021. Both of them hung a few times per week when not in use. I tried EVERYTHING … remove plugins, disable certain plugins, new PSU with higher rating, removing HDs … etc. As I said, I have LOTS of E2 experience (I have commited to the OpenVix opensource codebase even) and I couldn't figure out what was wrong.

    I contacted WoS support who are excellent. I shipped both receivers back to them and they managed to reproduce the problem - seems to have been a hardware problem with both receivers. They shipped 2 new Zgemma H7S receivers to me and they've been rock solid. Not a single crash/hang in 4 years.

    At the time, I know there were a good few complaints similar to mine. A lot of people just accepted it and were happy to turn the reciver on and off when it happend.

    you might have received one of the dodgy H7S receivers @Thargor



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,109 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Ah balls this is also from WoS but they're >2 years old now, ah well thanks anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭cathy427


    Is there an easy way to move a large number of channels to favourites from one of the other bouquets?

    I am using simply ten eighty on openvix image 6.5.003



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,091 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    There is openwebif which has a bouquet editor. I haven really used it much so not sure about bulk operations.

    After that you can always login/ssh and have a poke at the bouquet files themselves in /etc/enigma2. But its old school stuff, 'bash' command line and 'vi' editor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭swoofer


    Have you tried or know the method using the remote and how many channels?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭cathy427


    Thanks.

    No, I don't know the method with the remote. What is it?

    Maybe all the mainstream channels and the +1 options.

    Probably about 60 channels



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭swoofer


    Holy smoke that's a lot. have you setup ABM to give a starting point like this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭cathy427


    Ok. Would people normally just have a handful in favourites?

    I put the channels in the order I like (basically saorview, bbc, utv, ch 4 etc) in one list in all channels so its just just in case I lose that order cause of updates or something. Maybe I am being too cautious.

    This is what I have



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,091 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I just have those and I dont use favourites at all. I threw a lot of shite out too like religion, kids, shopping, adult etc.

    Saorview only has half a dozen channels and Entertainment is like I used to know it from my Sky box.

    I dont find I need favourites after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭dermo2014


    I like to keep it simple and not bother with favourites either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭cathy427


    Looks good. Do you find it awkward not having the Irish channels on the same list?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    I just view the my EPG for 7 days on that channel as i can set recordings that way.

    I go to either tuner to select either Sat or Saorview and then the channel as dont use favourites list in ABM



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭swoofer


    Cathy, I know what you are trying to achieve and I use dreamboxedit to arrange all channels/bouquets, xfr between boxes etc but using the remote I can achieve much the same but slower. The favourites bouquet is a default ie it wont be deleted when ABM runs hence the idea add all the channels you watch most often and have them on same epg. On your list above you show freesat and I never use that. Here is a pic of how I set abm and a pic of favourites. I use maghera so you may have your own xmitter so leave it. The sequence is.

    1. Configure ABM = see pic. NB green to save. 2. Select Providers see pic. 3. Hide the sections you don't want. 4. Keep the Bouquets you want I have a tick on favourites. 5. Delete ABM before you scan. 6. If box is on internet, I click update provider files. 7. Start scan.
    2. When scan is finished you should have favourites at top and then you can add channels but do a pic as I have tweaked my set up and may look different. Go slow and check each entry.

    Here is a pic of favourites with channels added.

    You can always change back to your own preference and you dont have to run ABM only if required and as ITV have sorted channels now changes should be very few. I run mine on friday only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭cathy427


    Oh wow, thanks so so much for all that. Super.

    One final thing - 5. Above "Delete ABM before you scan." Is that one of the options in the set up or do you come out of the set up and do that seperatrly?

    Thanks so much again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,062 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Am I correct in saying the Favourites bouquet wont be updated if you run ABM ?

    ie if one of the Favourite channels changes frequency, it will need to be manually updated, copied in ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭swoofer


    The delete will show when you open ABM.

    And yes favourites remain untouched and thats where the adding channels by remote will apply using red button under all you add new and delete old.

    Adding channels to favourites will make it clear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭cathy427


    Using openvix 6.5.003 with simple 1080.

    I have opentv download enabled

    To keep the epg updated for both Irish and UK channels do I need to do anything else?

    The automatic import epg is disabled

    Post edited by cathy427 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    EPG should be on enable to allow to download to USB or HDD only and not internal flash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭swoofer


    With openepg you dont need epgimporter so that should stay at disable. And there may be the odd occasion when epg is not filled so you can press blue button and select forced download. And NB location of epg MUST be hdd or usb so go epg settings look for location and if it says internal flash toggle arrow to change green to save. If you need EPG importer it has to be configured correctly.

    The EPG for saorview is transmitted with the channels ie you cant download it. if epg is missing you just wait.

    Vix is at 6.6 now and they have stopped support for older versions you may not notice for a time. Did you sort moving/adding channels?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭cathy427


    Thanks so so much.

    Ya, got the channels sorted thanks to your help. You are an absolute star and a wealth of knowledge. Didn't want to be quoting your replies to say thanks in case it's seen as spaming the thread.

    Have everything the way I want it now. Few cosmetic bits I haven't worked out yet but no panic on those. For eg to try other skins or set up legal IPTV stuff, or which option to click for picons. For trying other skins when I go to plugins this is what I am seeing

    Should there be an option there for skins as well?

    ............

    Seperate to the cosmetic stuff: For the update to 6.6 do you recommend a full clean install or restore settings?

    Also is 6.6 stable enough for newbies to now go for - without plaguing you with questions!! :-) 😀



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    I prefare a clean install no settings back up onto a new partition as have 4 to choose from.

    Sometimes they change things and some things are not restorable.

    I stick with default skin simple 1080 as sometimes skins give trouble and hide things and just keeping things simple so less issues.

    Setup - user Interface - Skin selection



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭swoofer


    Openvix keep all the bits on their server and a new development is they are stopping support for older images quicker so that is the reason you see that message.

    This is your best option for now and you will learn a bit but go slow and you will get the option to save a backup ie you have no choice but that's a good thing. Do this for now menu, setup, vix, image manager, press yellow, and you will now get choice of 4 images BUT stick with Vix for now, click ok, now select 6.6 and then click on 6.6.013, I know 6.7 is on the way so this one is stable, when its finsshed downloading press blue button and you will get 4 slots. NB look closely and it will say current ie the version you are on, don't overwrite that, pick an empty slot 2 and press OK, box will ask do I restore say yes to all and then it should boot into the new slot. Check it and see if all you did has moved over. NB dont do this if you are recording.

    When its running go to plugins and press green and you should get everything but don't download anything yet.

    Report back and 'll explain skins. I am watching footie for the evening.

    You are nearly bang up to speed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭cathy427


    So clear. Thanks again.

    In for late shift now so will try it later if chilling when get home or else it will be towards the weekend.

    Is there any downside to staying on 6.5.003 for a short while?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    No as your image is not that old as some might be on 5.1.

    If it works dont break it but you can download a newer one on another slot if you wish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭cathy427


    Does anyone use the av outlet on the zgemma h7s?

    Have an old 3.5mm to rca cable but it doesn't want to push fully into the av outlet.

    Wondering has it a different size av outlet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,605 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    I had a Vu+ Duo until recently and I'm guessing I don't need to do anything with the cables from the dish and aerial if I was to buy a H7s ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭swoofer


    correct.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Stick up a photo of the cable you are using , not used it on the H7S but have used the spdif port.

    Sometimes cables dont push in all the way as port is shorter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,605 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Thanks for the info.

    I can't get anyone to repair the Vu+ boxes so will try one of these.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Vu Duo are not worth repairing as my old one had many issues including power board.

    Ran dam slow also.



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