Why do you never see female bin collectors?

Omackeral

As requested from meeeeh.

meeeeh wrote: »

Ok lads I think it's time someone opens a thread dedicated to bin collectors. I can see the deep fondness and admiration you all have for it.

ArchXStanton

I think the industry needs gender quotas..

RWCNT

I have seen a few. Thread over, everybody go home.

bodice ripper

I'd rather lift bins than work minimum wage retail. Applied twice, no joy.

EmmetSpiceland

There’s a bin crew that fly into the estate at around 4:30pm like a bunch of yahoos, speeding up the roads and throwing bins anywhere once they’ve been dumped into the truck.

I’ve had the bins from houses five or six down from me left blocking my driveway. I couldn’t care less whether they’re binmen or binwomen, I’d just like them to arrive at a decent hour and not jeopardise the lives of the children here.

Not sure the company would take a complaint seriously as I don’t do business with them.

Tacklebox

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

There’s a bin crew that fly into the estate at around 4:30pm like a bunch of yahoos, speeding up the roads and throwing bins anywhere once they’ve been dumped into the truck.

I’ve had the bins from houses five or six down from me left blocking my driveway. I couldn’t care less whether they’re binmen or binwomen, I’d just like them to arrive at a decent hour and not jeopardise the lives of the children here.

Not sure the company would take a complaint seriously as I don’t do business with them.

I live in the edge of a village, the bastard's collect the bins at 5 am once a fortnight.
I don't care if Rupaul is driving.
But feck me, it's like a runway with all the flashing lights at 5am and thumping noise's...dunk dunk pdunk...

emilymemily

Ive never seen a job advertised for bin collectors, how does someone become a bin man/woman?

Hobosan

They have more important things to do.

endacl

emilymemily wrote: »

Ive never seen a job advertised for bin collectors, how does someone become a bin man/woman?

They send out regular emails. Check your trash folder.

up for anything

Q: Why do you never see female bin collectors?

A: Because we're not completely stupid and we do more than enough of the gicky jobs without adding another one to our repertoire.


Nobody WANTS to be a bin collector except my sons when they were little. They dreamed of hopping on and off the back of the bin lorry when they grew up. Now they've all reached employable age none of them is that keen to go chasing a bin collection job. Strange that! It's a job. Maybe there are perks that I don't know about but they seem to have worst of all worlds. In my signwriting days, I had to do the vehicle livery for a council refuse lorry fleet - ten of the damn things. It was summer and for some reason I forget the lorries had to stay in the garage. I'll never forget the three days spent inhaling the odour of the bin soup that seemed to lie on the bottom of the lorries. I wouldn't willingly follow that smell around five days a week, 52 weeks of the year.

Hobosan

up for anything wrote: »

Q: Why do you never see female bin collectors?

A: Because we're not completely stupid and we do more than enough of the gicky jobs without adding another one to our repertoire.


Nobody WANTS to be a bin collector except my sons when they were little. They dreamed of hopping on and off the back of the bin lorry when they grew up. Now they've all reached employable age none of them is that keen to go chasing a bin collection job. Strange that! It's a job. Maybe there are perks that I don't know about but they seem to have worst of all worlds. In my signwriting days, I had to do the vehicle livery for a council refuse lorry fleet - ten of the damn things. It was summer and for some reason I forget the lorries had to stay in the garage. I'll never forget the three days spent inhaling the odour of the bin soup that seemed to lie on the bottom of the lorries. I wouldn't willingly follow that smell around five days a week, 52 weeks of the year.

Agreed. What kind of idiot would collect rubbish. Putting stickers on rubbish lorries, now that's where the smart money is.

Canis Lupus

Because I'm too busy sleeping when they pass the house at 6am.

Ultimate Seduction

emilymemily wrote: »

Ive never seen a job advertised for bin collectors, how does someone become a bin man/woman?

They would be advertised as General Operatives or Waste Technicians.

KevinCavan

With gender equality a hot topic now, we are likely to see many more female bin collectors.

I know a few lads that work on the bins. Apparently, once you don't mind the early starts, it's actually a handy enough job and a bit of a laugh. Relatively short days, I am lead to believe.

You don't see women doing it because 'ew that's yucky' and gender quotas only apply to higher up jobs that require a lot of effort to get into (quotas which directly discriminate against the suitably qualified men also aiming for the same jobs).

Mrsmum

My mascara would run, out in the rain and my nails would be in bits !

prinzeugen

emilymemily wrote: »

Ive never seen a job advertised for bin collectors, how does someone become a bin man/woman?

I worked with a local council in Scotland. There was an internal waiting list for people that wanted on the "trucks". Silly money and the quicker you were done, the quicker you got home.

This was in the late 90s and they were lifting £1800 (UK) every 4 weeks. I was getting about £800-£1100 in the parks dept for longer hours.

Andrew00

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I know a few lads that work on the bins. Apparently, once you don't mind the early starts, it's actually a handy enough job and a bit of a laugh. Relatively short days, I am lead to believe.

You don't see women doing it because 'ew that's yucky' and gender quotas only apply to higher up jobs that require a lot of effort to get into (quotas which directly discriminate against the suitably qualified men also aiming for the same jobs).

4am till 3pm, half an hour break.

fonecrusher1

Mrsmum wrote: »

My mascara would run, out in the rain and my nails would be in bits !

Ah here, sure stop, g'way out of that. And there was a surprise and it was great fun. Sure stop.

tuxy

KevinCavan wrote: »

With gender equality a hot topic now, we are likely to see many more female bin collectors.

Not at all, the opposite is true!
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/02/the-more-gender-equality-the-fewer-women-in-stem/553592/

I know that report focuses on STEM but the truth is in countries where people have more choice and opportunity many jobs are still selected predominately by gender.

areu4real?

up for anything wrote: »

Q: Why do you never see female bin collectors?

A: Because we're not completely stupid and we do more than enough of the gicky jobs without adding another one to our repertoire.


Nobody WANTS to be a bin collector except my sons when they were little. They dreamed of hopping on and off the back of the bin lorry when they grew up. Now they've all reached employable age none of them is that keen to go chasing a bin collection job. Strange that! It's a job. Maybe there are perks that I don't know about but they seem to have worst of all worlds. In my signwriting days, I had to do the vehicle livery for a council refuse lorry fleet - ten of the damn things. It was summer and for some reason I forget the lorries had to stay in the garage. I'll never forget the three days spent inhaling the odour of the bin soup that seemed to lie on the bottom of the lorries. I wouldn't willingly follow that smell around five days a week, 52 weeks of the year.

Good to see that you speak for all women, and that all women are "not completely stupid". Obviously all current bin collectors are stupid, that's a really strong point you make.... [\sarcasm]

Men and women both do some "gicky" jobs so let's not play the poor women card. The sooner we start seeing people as individuals instead of male/female/black/white/gay/straight the better. I have a question for you, do you believe gender quotas are a good thing? This is the key, and I'm not presuming that you do. It's a genuine question, because if we go down the road of gender quotas, then we must do race quotas too. Then we start to go further down that rabbit hole of sub dividing society until we end up with the right person missing out on jobs and the workforce becomes an unbalanced mess due to our perception of PC workplaces.

Sorry if this feels like a personal attack, I promise you it's not. It's an attack on the "us and them" concept. Everyone should have equal opportunity to apply for any position, and if it turns out that as I suspect that, generally, men happen to be more willing and able to follow a smelly truck lifting heavy bins then that's how it will be. Just like any other job, certain characteristics will make a certain type of person more willing and more able to do it. But please try to see it from a "me and you" perspective rather than "us and them". That's the only way real equality can happen, equal opportunity for everyone and then we can have the best people doing the best job possible.

There will always be exceptions to the "norm". We will have mostly male bricklayers but some female. Mostly female nurses but some male. There are natural averages of male/female that no amount of legislation will change and the sooner we realize this, the sooner we can really be an equal society.

DaithiMa

Is it just me that still calls them binmen? Or more usually 'The Binman'. Apologies in advance if that offends anyone.

Ultimate Seduction

up for anything wrote: »

Q: Why do you never see female bin collectors?

A: Because we're not completely stupid and we do more than enough of the gicky jobs without adding another one to our repertoire.


Nobody WANTS to be a bin collector except my sons when they were little. They dreamed of hopping on and off the back of the bin lorry when they grew up. Now they've all reached employable age none of them is that keen to go chasing a bin collection job. Strange that! It's a job. Maybe there are perks that I don't know about but they seem to have worst of all worlds. In my signwriting days, I had to do the vehicle livery for a council refuse lorry fleet - ten of the damn things. It was summer and for some reason I forget the lorries had to stay in the garage. I'll never forget the three days spent inhaling the odour of the bin soup that seemed to lie on the bottom of the lorries. I wouldn't willingly follow that smell around five days a week, 52 weeks of the year.

So men who work as binmen are "completely stupid"? Nice.

tuxy

DaithiMa wrote: »

Is it just me that still calls them binmen? Or more usually 'The Binman'. Apologies in advance if that offends anyone.

That would be what everyone calls them but the title would have looked weird if it was "Why do you never see female binmen?" It would imply some kind of gender fluidity.

greencap

Tacklebox wrote: »

I live in the edge of a village, the bastard's collect the bins at 5 am once a fortnight.
I don't care if Rupaul is driving.
But feck me, it's like a runway with all the flashing lights at 5am and thumping noise's...dunk dunk pdunk...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvL6C0jprCw

kneemos

emilymemily wrote: »

Ive never seen a job advertised for bin collectors, how does someone become a bin man/woman?

Talk to Fat Tony.

Beanntraigheach

That'll be the 'Patriarchy' reserving all the most prestigious, glamourous and high-paying careers for the men. Bastards.

Beanntraigheach

DaithiMa wrote: »

Is it just me that still calls them binmen? Or more usually 'The Binman'. Apologies in advance if that offends anyone.

The politically correct term is "Persons of Bin".

Force Carrier

My old man's a Recycling Technician in the Environmental Sector.

OneArt

There are female bin collectors. Tonnes of them.

You just don't see it. It's dark, the fumes from the rubbish have wizened their once delicate features into the hard, chiseled and haggard looks of men. Due to the high level of toxicity, some have grown what appear to be beards. Many cut their hair short for fear of it being snagged and them being pulled into the grinder. After years of prolonged bin-collecting, many simply accept their fate and continue as bin "men" in every day life.

It's a tough job and they deserve every penny they get.

Maewyn Succat

My bin is collected by a truck similar to the one I have attached. Only the driver is required to operate it and some of the drivers are female. Nobody has to touch the bin so it's not "icky".

suicide_circus

same reason you never see a man working in a creche

SoundsRight

They'd be on strike half the time complaining about the smell or the weight of the bins. Look at the nurses for example.

Ultimate Seduction

suicide_circus wrote: »

same reason you never see a man working in a creche

What's that reason?

Ultimate Seduction

SoundsRight wrote: »

They'd be on strike half the time complaining about the smell or the weight of the bins. Look at the nurses for example.

Are the Luas drivers all female too?

Anesthetize

Because they look the exact same as male bin collectors.

suicide_circus

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

What's that reason?

CAUSE IT AINT RIGHT

Irish Guitarist

Many years ago I worked in a shop. One of the women that worked there asked me to pick up a dead rat because as she explained "it's just that I don't like rats". I went outside and there was a decomposing rat with maggots coming out of what were once his eyes. I put on some gloves, got a piece of cardboard and scraped the corpse up off the ground. It made this squelching noise as I picked it up. It reminded me of a Cornish pastie.

I think the answer to why there aren't bin women is the same answer as why this woman didn't want to pick up a dead, eyeless, maggot infested rat.

Fifty grades of shay.

My wife deals with most of the **** jobs, around our house. That's just the way it's always been, not that she's forced in to it.
We both have our roles, no sexism involved, we both work at home and it just emerged that she collects the rubbish and cleans up the mess around the house, I do it around the sheds and fields and after the farm animals, and my wife never stops working or complains about it.

This piece deals with it a bit.

https://www.dailyedge.ie/women-dont-want-to-do-dirty-jobs-3493637-Jul2017/

cursai

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Are the Luas drivers all female too?

There's no bins on the luas to be collected. Your getting mixed up with dubs

kenmc

suicide_circus wrote: »

same reason you never see a man working in a creche

You don't? I should probably tell the lads who worked in my kids creche that they need to get new jobs so

Force Carrier

They were asked to do it but they refuse collector

cursai

FFS. They can't lift or drag the bins a easily as the men. That's the plain and simple.

Still waters

Maybe because men are better at some jobs than women and vice versa, if we all accepted there are roles that are more gender suited to male or female we would all get along better, women in stem is fine but most women aren't interested in stem subjects, just like most men aren't interested in child ca re and nursing.
I took on a labourer years ago, a lesbian who played county football, she thought she was physically tough, and she was as women go, but she lasted 2 days and hold me she couldn't handle the work, women and men should stick to what they're good at, there's no need to force people into roles just to fill quotas.

suicide_circus

kenmc wrote: »

You don't? I should probably tell the lads who worked in my kids creche that they need to get new jobs so

there are male creche workers
there are female binmen

they just make up 0.0001% of the work force.

but then you knew that.

fatknacker

It's a job that pays well. I'd imagine lots more would do it if they could.

Richard Hillman

The green bin must be the most coveted truck. You definitely don't want to be on the brown bin truck. I would imagine there is a heirachy that gets the nicer gigs.

weldoninhio

RWCNT wrote: »

I have seen a few. Thread over, everybody go home.

A few?? There should be an equal amount of male and female!!!

weldoninhio

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Many years ago I worked in a shop. One of the women that worked there asked me to pick up a dead rat because as she explained "it's just that I don't like rats". I went outside and there was a decomposing rat with maggots coming out of what were once his eyes. I put on some gloves, got a piece of cardboard and scraped the corpse up off the ground. It made this squelching noise as I picked it up. It reminded me of a Cornish pastie.

I think the answer to why there aren't bin women is the same answer as why this woman didn't want to pick up a dead, eyeless, maggot infested rat.

Because there's always some other idiot willing to do it??

lainey_d_123

I love how butthurt men always use this example when asking why women don't want equality for manual labour.

Aside from the obvious issues with women being physically smaller and weaker than men (on the whole) and the other obvious issue of there being very few women on the job, so women wanting to do it feel intimidated (I know a female bin collector and the 'banter' is verging on harassment sometimes), women are also busy doing plenty of other menial jobs, such as cleaning and working in care homes. I wonder how many binmen would like to spend their days wiping arses and cleaning up sick.

machiavellianme