Men Bashing and Women Saluting

Minivan

Two lovely articles popped up in my newsfeed today and I’m thinking what an absolute pile of ****e. It would be nice to document the constant man bashing in a thread [Please add other men bashing articles below!]. We might be able to talk about it on International Mens day in November, If we are permitted. Oh hang on we don’t need a day to celebrate that, every day is great waking up as a man!

We’re all equal though which is great, except If a man tried to write an article like those that follow about how he had to prompt his wife to do some hoovering he’d be cut down so fast his head would spin.

No.1 is “My Husband will carry out instructions but why must I ask in the first place” where Geraldine Walsh describes the mental anguish of having to remember everything and that her obedient husband will do what he’s told when she tells him. It’s onviously not enough as you will read. Link

No.2 is “Im told I’m lucky because my husband pulls his weight” where Jen Hogan describes how it’s nice to have her ‘Rare Diamond’ of a husband around the house for the last 20 years with her 7 children as she’s grown accustomed to him. But he wouldn’t be looking for the missing runner at 11pm of a night because the poor dope wouldn’t even know that PE is on tomorrow unless she told him! Sure he can’t even dress the kids properly after 17 years. Link

Both worth a read, really! Enjoy! Any opinions welcome! From both men and women. We’re all equal ain’t we!

What I don’t like is there seems to be a constant battle on from the women’s side to bash down the poor dopes of men for any reason. And what is occurring to me is that either men don’t care or are afraid to react for fear of retribution? One thing is becoming abundantly clear, there is no man even in the ring while the women’s feet are planted squarely in their corner for this battle we’re not invited to take part in.

Grayson

You spent far too long typing that.

eyerer

I agree with you, but I think it's seen as un-manly to complain about this stuff, whereas women are encouraged and praised for complaining.
I overheard a woman the other day talking about this film in the cinema, its a film about a woman who battled for women's rights. I personally am very bored hearing women talk about their rights, they have more advantages than I do.

In fact when I was at university (where every class had more women in it than men), the school computers were advertising female only scholarships. Those poor women weren't getting a fair chance even though there were fewer men attending?

CPTM

Grayson wrote: »

You spent far too long typing that.

Typical "man" thing to do.

"It suffocates us in a way, because the pressure to be the one who knows, remembers, and sees everything that needs to be done is overbearing."

Geraldine Walsh deciding that only she can inherit the burden, and simultaneously complain that women are having to shoulder the responsibility. A poor pitiful me exercise.

davidk1394

Women give out over anything. Men just can’t be arsed and do what they need to do. Also with a haircut like that with the first author I’d say she is offended over the slightest thing.

dxhound2005

Can we have a Dole thread instead? They're less complicated.

Minivan

Grayson wrote: »

You spent far too long typing that.

I’d say the women spent a lot longer on their bile, sorry articles! I can do 90 wpm 😛

Grayson

Here's an article about the division of labour in most homes. And surprise, women do more. Even when they're the main breadwinner. Plus women keep mental track of more stuff. They're the ones who remember that milk is needed or that the kid has an excursion. So they do quite often feel grateful when a man helps more.

https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2018/feb/16/guilt-over-household-chores-is-harming-working-womens-health-housework

However it is a bit more nuanced than that. A lot of women feel that their partner wouldn't do it as well (That's mentioned in the article too).

And if you can't be bothered reading the article, here's a comic for you.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/26/gender-wars-household-chores-comic


Now what we could take from all this is that both partners should be aware of the burden the other is having and either call it out if the other is to blame, or step up to help if they are to blame.

However, this is after hours, so let's pretend that we're all irrational idiots and scream at each other.

orourkeda1977

I had a pizza and a few pints.

You like that ladies?

nullzero

Having seven children used to be a sign of poverty and a lack of education, now its a status indicator.

Both of these women are living in cloud cuckoo land. Back in the real world the rest of us are dividing housework, child minding and school runs evenly.

It's funny how all these put upon modern feminists are well heeled journalists living in affluent areas. Poor them, life must be a real struggle.

Ardent

If vibrators could mow the lawn, there'd be no need for men.

eviltwin

Maybe women should date men who are capable of doing their share instead of marrying them and then complaining

Roen

Grayson wrote: »

Here's an article about the division of labour in most homes. And surprise, women do more. Even when they're the main breadwinner. Plus women keep mental track of more stuff. They're the ones who remember that milk is needed or that the kid has an excursion. So they do quite often feel grateful when a man helps more.

https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2018/feb/16/guilt-over-household-chores-is-harming-working-womens-health-housework

However it is a bit more nuanced than that. A lot of women feel that their partner wouldn't do it as well (That's mentioned in the article too).

And if you can't be bothered reading the article, here's a comic for you.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/26/gender-wars-household-chores-comic


Now what we could take from all this is that both partners should be aware of the burden the other is having and either call it out if the other is to blame, or step up to help if they are to blame.

However, this is after hours, so let's pretend that we're all irrational idiots and scream at each other.

That comic struck quite a chord with me. Pretty much sums up my situation and partner. Cheers for linking it.

Omackeral

Minivan

Roen wrote: »

That comic struck quite a chord with me. Pretty much sums up my situation and partner. Cheers for linking it.

Ye it was nice of that woman Emma to do the comic so us stupid men can understand.

Just to say that if my boyfriend didn't buy things like toilet roll and washing up liquid or remember to water the plants or that we'll change the sheets today, they would never get done. Id be quite happy to float along in my own little world.

Sam Quentin

I recently read an article about how God purposely made womens feet smaller so that they can get closer to the kitchen sink.. Like I know God was a man(obviously)but I just thought waaaaow that was great forward thinking.. BRILLIANT JUST BRILLIANT.

Sheeps

White western women are the most privileged class of people in history. Good looking ones in particular.

cannotlogin

Can we stop the world and just rewind to a time before this ****?

When men were men and women were women and we all just got along grand.

Day Lewin

The thing is, women choose to care about things that men don't care about.
And then they complain when men don't do them.
Complaining should be banned!

Sweetemotion

Grayson wrote: »

Here's an article about the division of labour in most homes. And surprise, women do more. Even when they're the main breadwinner. Plus women keep mental track of more stuff. They're the ones who remember that milk is needed or that the kid has an excursion. So they do quite often feel grateful when a man helps more.

https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2018/feb/16/guilt-over-household-chores-is-harming-working-womens-health-housework

However it is a bit more nuanced than that. A lot of women feel that their partner wouldn't do it as well (That's mentioned in the article too).

And if you can't be bothered reading the article, here's a comic for you.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/26/gender-wars-household-chores-comic


Now what we could take from all this is that both partners should be aware of the burden the other is having and either call it out if the other is to blame, or step up to help if they are to blame.

However, this is after hours, so let's pretend that we're all irrational idiots and scream at each other.

That article seems to suggest that women are much happier in the traditional role of were men are out working and women look after the home.

Also using not being paid to do house hold chores as part of the gender pay gap is pretty disingenuous and shows their biases.

Hector Savage

nullzero wrote: »

Having seven children used to be a sign of poverty and a lack of education, now its a status indicator.

Both of these women are living in cloud cuckoo land. Back in the real world the rest of us are dividing housework, child minding and school runs evenly.

It's funny how all these put upon modern feminists are well heeled journalists living in affluent areas. Poor them, life must be a real struggle.

What kind of irresponsible selfish evil cunt has 7 kids in 2019 anyway ?
Don't they know there is 7+ BILLION people on the planet and this type of ****e is totally unsustainable ?

nullzero

Hector Savage wrote: »

What kind of irresponsible selfish evil cunt has 7 kids in 2019 anyway ?
Don't they know there is 7+ BILLION people on the planet and this type of ****e is totally unsustainable ?

The type of cvnts who drive them around in two Range Rovers.

Day Lewin

Hector Savage wrote: »

What kind of irresponsible selfish evil cunt has 7 kids in 2019 anyway ?
Don't they know there is 7+ BILLION people on the planet and this type of ****e is totally unsustainable ?

The ones whose offsprings will be paying taxes, and working, in the service of the childless ones when the latter get to ancient old age.

Fr_Dougal

I’d like to hear what Gillette have to say about this, not feeling particularly woke today.

Gimme A Pound

Seven children once a sign of poverty and now a sign of status? Would have thought it's still a sign of poverty - or welfare dependence. The more "social status" a family has, the fewer children there seem to be.

Omackeral wrote: »

This! Or there aren't even negative comments, apart from in her head.

Sheeps wrote: »

White western women are the most privileged class of people in history. Good looking ones in particular.

Don't know about "in history".

Anyone, I agree OP - cannot abide that anti men stuff.

ArchXStanton

Ya know what I'd love? For every man in the world to just down tools for 1 day, there's a whole unseen world of blocked sewers, garbage to be got rid of, hard manual labour that women never see or want anything to do with..

Tacklebox

Men are great.

Men are strong.

Men are rugged.

Men are handsome.

Men are hunters.

Men are father's.

Men are kind.

Men are fast.

Men are funny.

Men are skillful.

Men are resourceful.

Men have options.

Men are loveable.

Men can hold it together.

Men are not useless.

Men love sheds.

Men are men.

Church on Tuesday

Yeah, this drivel is really nothing new. Men have always since time immemorial been betrayed as essentially useless apes when it comes to domestic matters.

Without a doubt some men are. Many are not.

I've lived with women who were total slobs in houseshares; genuinely by times it was disgusting.

In this ever more tedious 'woke' environment ****e like this is popular because it's what's in. It's 'current'. And strap yourselfs in lads cos it's here to stay.

Unpopular opinion I'm sure but if you're a stay at home mother, which this pair seem to be, then the running of the house is, essentially, up to you.

If I was the sole earner in a household like that, of which there is nothing wrong with by the way and often a necessity because childcare is through the roof, I really couldn't give less of a **** at the end of my day what cycle the washing machine is on.

They're lucky lads alright.

Mrsmum

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Ya know what I'd love? For every man in the world to just down tools for 1 day, there's a whole unseen world of blocked sewers, garbage to be got rid of, hard manual labour that women never see or want anything to do with..

Hmmm, I think I've see my husband getting out the rods to unblock drains about twice in twenty five years, the bins go out once a week, like five minutes work once a week, often put out by me and he, like lots of men, doesn't do any manual work. So I would hope he would do a little bit more than above list.

Omackeral

Mrsmum wrote: »

the bins go out once a week, like five minutes work once a week, often put out by me

Ever seen a woman collecting them for 8 hours a day? Hopping on and off grimy filthy trucks? I honestly never have.

mulbot

Mrsmum wrote: »

Hmmm, I think I've see my husband getting out the rods to unblock drains about twice in twenty five years, the bins go out once a week, like five minutes work once a week, often put out by me and he, like lots of men, doesn't do any manual work. So I would hope he would do a little bit more than above list.

Who collects your rubbish. How many times in ,25 years did you clean the drains.

giveitholly

Mrsmum wrote: »

Hmmm, I think I've see my husband getting out the rods to unblock drains about twice in twenty five years, the bins go out once a week, like five minutes work once a week, often put out by me and he, like lots of men, doesn't do any manual work. So I would hope he would do a little bit more than above list.

He has quite a catch there

pablo128

Mrsmum wrote: »

Hmmm, I think I've see my husband getting out the rods to unblock drains about twice in twenty five years, the bins go out once a week, like five minutes work once a week, often put out by me and he, like lots of men, doesn't do any manual work. So I would hope he would do a little bit more than above list.

I dropped my partner and daughter to the parade on Sunday and went back to re-hang the back gate that blew down in the wind last week. That involved replacing part of the frame, and repositioning hinges etc. Essentially I was fixing someone else's botch job.

She would happily have handed over 250-300 euro to someone to pretty much do the exact same thing.

Mrsmum

Good heaven boys. you're physically stronger. That's why you don't have men and women competing against each other in sports. For a woman to be a bin collector, it would not be a like for like job as for a man to be a bin collector ie the bins would be a heavier lift for her. Common sense really. The title op and stories linked are about household chores.

Skylinehead

davidk1394 wrote: »

Women give out over anything. Men just can’t be arsed and do what they need to do

Wouldn't know it by this thread! Complaining about complaining.


Gonna run away now.

GLaDOS

I do all the cooking so it would be unfair if I was to do anything else around the house

mulbot

Mrsmum wrote: »

Good heaven boys. you're physically stronger. That's why you don't have men and women competing against each other in sports. For a woman to be a bin collector, it would not be a like for like job as for a man to be a bin collector ie the bins would be a heavier lift for her. Common sense really. The title op and stories linked are about household chores.

So all men are stronger than all women,and that's why women don't collect garbage . Sweet jesus

recedite

Mrsmum wrote: »

Good heaven boys. you're physically stronger. That's why you don't have men and women competing against each other in sports. For a woman to be a bin collector, it would not be a like for like job as for a man to be a bin collector ie the bins would be a heavier lift for her. Common sense really. The title op and stories linked are about household chores.

The lorry does the lifting.
I think maybe the problem for the ladies is more about being out in the rain, following a stinking lorry, and getting covered in a stinky bin smell.

Fr_Dougal

Mrsmum wrote: »

Good heaven boys. you're physically stronger. That's why you don't have men and women competing against each other in sports. For a woman to be a bin collector, it would not be a like for like job as for a man to be a bin collector ie the bins would be a heavier lift for her. Common sense really. The title op and stories linked are about household chores.

That’s a cop-out.

Tacklebox

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

That’s a cop-out.

Down with that sort of thing

Mrsmum

recedite wrote: »

The lorry does the lifting.
I think maybe the problem for the ladies is more about being out in the rain, following a stinking lorry, and getting covered in a stinky bin smell.

Ah it's still quite physical though. Not family friendly for women either as not really suitable while pregnant what with the bump to be minded and morning, noon and night sickness.

givyjoe

Mrsmum wrote: »

Good heaven boys. you're physically stronger. That's why you don't have men and women competing against each other in sports. For a woman to be a bin collector, it would not be a like for like job as for a man to be a bin collector ie the bins would be a heavier lift for her. Common sense really. The title op and stories linked are about household chores.

When did you last see men lifting a bin and dumping the contents in the truck?! The truck literally does this now. Absolutely no physical reason why women can't be bin collectors today.

Not really common sense, just having two functioning eyes.

Hobosan

givyjoe wrote: »

When did you last see men lifting a bin and dumping the contents in the truck?! The truck literally does this now. Absolutely no physical reason why women can't be bin collectors today.

Not really common sense, just having two functioning eyes.

The physical reasons would be the low temperature and ensuing depression from doing the job.

recedite

I think we should impose mandatory bin lady quotas.
50/50 men and women doing the job is what it should be in the 21st century.


First step in this is to reserve half the jobs for women, and to bump otherwise suitable male candidates off the list.


The second step is to go down to Brown Thomas's cafe and press-gang enough ladies there to fill all the vacancies.

Mrsmum

givyjoe wrote: »

When did you last see men lifting a bin and dumping the contents in the truck?! The truck literally does this now. Absolutely no physical reason why women can't be bin collectors today.

Not really common sense, just having two functioning eyes.

Yeah, although I still maintain bins can be very heavy just to push and you often see lads pulling two towards the truck, maybe taking the physicality out of it, it's quite an easy job really. That must be why men are attracted to it. But then if bin companies put up ads looking for women to apply, to encourage the ladies into this traditional male area, the men would be going nuts about that also. No pleasing the lads these days.

sportsfan90

Mrsmum wrote: »

Yeah, although I still maintain bins can be very heavy just to push and you often see lads pulling two towards the truck, maybe taking the physicality out of it, it's quite an easy job really. That must be why men are attracted to it. But then if bin companies put up ads looking for women to apply, to encourage the ladies into this traditional male area, the men would be going nuts about that also. No pleasing the lads these days.

There's a difference and you know it.. Quotas for the nice jobs, but men can continue doing the not so nice ones. That seems to be the message.

meeeeh

Thank god for bin collectors. I'm starting to think they are a Goodwin of gender discussions. Keep a thread open long enough and someone will mention bin collecting. Actually it doesn't need to be long, abiut 7 posts on average is enough.

mulbot

Mrsmum wrote: »

Yeah, although I still maintain bins can be very heavy just to push and you often see lads pulling two towards the truck, maybe taking the physicality out of it, it's quite an easy job really. That must be why men are attracted to it. But then if bin companies put up ads looking for women to apply, to encourage the ladies into this traditional male area, the men would be going nuts about that also. No pleasing the lads these days.

How about the ladies just have to pull the blue top bins. Full of paper so not at all heavy.

Omackeral

Mrsmum wrote: »

the bins go out once a week, like five minutes work once a week, often put out by me

Omackeral wrote: »

Ever seen a woman collecting them for 8 hours a day? Hopping on and off grimy filthy trucks? I honestly never have.

Mrsmum wrote: »

Good heaven boys. you're physically stronger. That's why you don't have men and women competing against each other in sports. For a woman to be a bin collector, it would not be a like for like job as for a man to be a bin collector ie the bins would be a heavier lift for her. Common sense really. The title op and stories linked are about household chores.

That's a no then