Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123380106#Comment_123380106

Not at all, I accept what I said was wrong

letowski

I think Picardi is trying to referee the game in the right spirit, but he needs to be more willing to use his officiating team more and not just go completely off his own judgement. He has made some bad calls in the last 2 games we’ve been involved in that have had major impacts. I think if just uses his 4th official or TMO, and just communicate to them that there was a call for X, can you check please, a lot of these mistakes would be cleaned up.

Like against La Rochelle, he was dead certain that Munster collapsed the maul and that it was a PT and YC. But it was clear that Skelton had the ball at the front of the maul and Munster were entitled to sack/tackle him. It led a comically long review where the TMO had no idea who to yellow card.

Sheep breeder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123380868#Comment_123380868

But refereeing the game in the right spirit and not by the rules has caused two bad results for Munster and he should be doing the job the way it’s supposed to be done and by the rules, he wouldn’t entertain Jack when he was clearly saying the ball was off the knee and should have been looked at and a scrum. The game is not about the ref and what he wants the game played.

pickarooney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123380868#Comment_123380868

The more that went on, the more I questioned if I understood anything about the rules of the maul (despite playing second row, I understand next to nothing, admittedly). How do you explain this kind of thing to a casual viewer trying to understand the game with you?

off-topic rant

I know a lot of things in rugby are sacrosanct but so much decision making seems to be just 'because…', 'vibes', shrug

I tried to explan the difference between the URC and Champions Cup to someone last week and it was colours to a blind man.

"No, it's the domestic competition this week"

"So this is to decide the Irish champions?"

"Irish, and Scottish, and Welsh, and Italian, and South African"

"What was the other week, against Hollywood Bullsharks?"

"A completely different competition. That was the European Cup."

"I thought they were South African?"

"Do you want to go out for dinner?"

RichieRich_89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123381913#Comment_123381913

Maybe you need to get better at explaining stuff. Using the word 'domestic' if I didn't know would suggest a competition between teams all from the same country.

Also, you see to have confused yourself if you're saying Sharks v Leinster was in the European Cup.

phog

Munster team for tomorrow evening

No Murray, POM doesn't make it back. Haley starts.

Milne makes his debut

budhabob

Given the knocks picked up against the bulls, that's as strong as it gets I suppose. Weak enough bench all the same...

I do like the look of Donnelly I have to say, but would like to see more of him in the scrum.

Pepp1989

Another week and more injuries. It is totally unsustainable.

Cookiemunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123385354#Comment_123385354

It's rugby. That's why there are 40 man squads. We've a week off after tomorrow before we play Ulster. Plenty of time for the walking wounded to recover.

Pepp1989

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123385371#Comment_123385371

I'm aware it's rugby. No need to be patronising.

If you think the rate of attrition is normal then I disagree. It's the shrug and "it's rugby" that leads to mediocrity imo.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123385354#Comment_123385354

It's been an issue at Munster for many years now and the question often gets asked if we are just unlucky or if there is something systemically wrong at the province

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123385176#Comment_123385176

Plenty of youngsters in that team and we usually pull a few surprises when the youngsters are involved. If we can clean up the mess at the scrum, lineout, ruck and passing that we had last weekend we might just scalp them

P.Walnuts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123385613#Comment_123385613

Hmmm

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123385706#Comment_123385706

Different sport and different team although sometimes they use MUN on the tv broadcasts

Cookiemunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123385432#Comment_123385432

I wasn't being patronising. Injuries are a part and parcel of a physical sport like rugby. Your statement said that it's unsustainable. Well this week Mike Haley, Calvin Nash, Gavin Coombes and Diarmuid Barron return from injury. Over recent weeks Casey, Kleyn and Abrahams also returned.

I'd expect most, if not all of the players mentioned as having knocks to be fit for Ulster and for Jager to have worked his way through the HIA process.

As I said, that's why the squads are so big.

Pepp1989

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123385916#Comment_123385916

Do you think Munsters rate of injury is on a par with the other irish provinces?

For me, every second week it's "injury hit munster....etc".

letowski

Not a bad team on paper. Good that Haley is back. Looking forward to seeing how Milne gets on. I think Kleyn is being paired with the young props on the bench to help them in the scrum when they come on.

Worth noting that Quinn has over taken Gleeson in the backrow pecking order. Can see it too, I think Quinn has looked good in his few bench cameos. I would have liked to see him start at 6 tomorrow actually.

Foxtrol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123385432#Comment_123385432

It is pretty clear that Munster have an S&C issue.

No way it is pure coincidence that season after season they have been decimated with injuries and consistent sick note players for them leave and their issues significantly reduce.

budhabob

Didn't realise Cardiff were on a bit of a winning streak at home - from the Irish times article.

Cardiff haven’t lost at home since January, but it is the visitors that start the match as six-point favourites with the bookmakers. Munster must be wary of turning over ball against a backrow containing two superb poachers and a Cardiff backline that has oodles of pace.

antfin

That "statistic" is just ridiculous! You could equally phrase it that they've won only one home game since they beat Cheatah's in the Challenge Cup in December!

budhabob

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123386869#Comment_123386869

😂😂 Feck sake, I thought the IT would be better than that, I just checked their results there and you are correct. Amateur mistake on my side trusting an article.

50HX

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123386063#Comment_123386063

I've often questioned the injury profile & was repeatedly told that these things happen as part of the rugby cycle & we were just going through a bad run.

The quality of our extended squad is quite poor & any player loss due to injury is thus exacerbated.

Ged MC has departed so maybe there is a shift in things s & c wise

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123386869#Comment_123386869

You could also phrase it that they won 2 of their last 10 games across all competitions Vs munster who won 5 games in that time

Sounded more impressive in my head being honest, but I still say that on paper we have the beatings of them

CalmaftertheGav

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123385354#Comment_123385354

Yeah but sure, S&C not an issue…