UK looking at Newry for potential nuclear waste site

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The council there, unanimously said 'clear off' to those suggesting it as a suitable location.

Therefore, looks like they'll have to look for locations in Britian instead.

From one of the local papers:
Party politics were left at the door on Monday night as Newry, Mourne and Down District (NMDDC) councillors unanimously backed a cross-party motion to oppose any possibility of the district being used as a dumping ground for radioactive waste.

The emergency Notice of Motion - brought forward by the SDLP, Sinn Féin, the UUP and the DUP - at Monday’s full Council meeting called on the Council to make clear that it ‘does not consent and never will consent to hosting a geological waste disposal facility in our Council area’.

Ah well that's that then.
Case closed.

Roselyn Muscular Pickax

Roselyn Muscular Pickax wrote: »

The council there, unanimously said 'clear off' to those suggesting it as a suitable location.

Therefore, looks like they'll have to look for locations in Britian instead.

From one of the local papers:
Party politics were left at the door on Monday night as Newry, Mourne and Down District (NMDDC) councillors unanimously backed a cross-party motion to oppose any possibility of the district being used as a dumping ground for radioactive waste.

The emergency Notice of Motion - brought forward by the SDLP, Sinn F, the UUP and the DUP - at Monday’s full Council meeting called on the Council to make clear that it ‘does not consent and never will consent to hosting a geological waste disposal facility in our Council area’.

Ah well that's that then.
Case closed.

The Newry situation is only a sideshow as far as I'm concerned the thread has evolved past that. As frustrating as it is debating with people who are ignorant of so much on the topic it is still something I think is worth while as it might encourage some to do some more reading into it.

Roselyn Muscular Pickax

Roselyn Muscular Pickax wrote: »

The council there, unanimously said 'clear off' to those suggesting it as a suitable location.

Therefore, looks like they'll have to look for locations in Britian instead.

From one of the local papers:
Party politics were left at the door on Monday night as Newry, Mourne and Down District (NMDDC) councillors unanimously backed a cross-party motion to oppose any possibility of the district being used as a dumping ground for radioactive waste.

The emergency Notice of Motion - brought forward by the SDLP, Sinn Féin, the UUP and the DUP - at Monday’s full Council meeting called on the Council to make clear that it ‘does not consent and never will consent to hosting a geological waste disposal facility in our Council area’.

Ah well that's that then.
Case closed.

cgcsb

Zorya wrote: »

Don't understand this kind of argument. There must be a name for it, but I don't know it. Just because people die of one thing we should not mind them dying of the other thing? Don't mind polio because, look it, loads die from typhus? Nuclear radioactivity causes disease, death, genetic deformities, suffering. But sure, never mind, so does beer.

The point is, you can have leathal coal or oil or safer nuclear.

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Well Newry, Mourne and Down District Council have said no anyway.

Of course the more 'orange' places such as Banbridge, Portadown and some parts of Belfast,
source much of their tap water from Spelga Dam in the middle of the Mournes, they will 99.9% likely say no also if asked.


Case closed, except of course for those with an agenda to promote the nuclear waste industry.

Zorya

Roselyn Muscular Pickax wrote: »

Well Newry, Mourne and Down District Council have said no anyway.

Of course the more 'orange' places such as Banbridge, Portadown and some parts of Belfast,
source much of their tap water from Spelga Dam in the middle of the Mournes, they will 99.9% likely say no also if asked.


Case closed, except of course for those with an agenda to promote the nuclear waste industry.

The Northern Ireland Executive being awol for 2 years with no return in sight also probably doesn't help with the logistics of organising the ''hotsing'' of a nuclear waste store/dump.

fancy pigeon

Auguste Comte wrote: »

Is this a DUP plan to turn everyone in the North orange,



And effing stupid.

It'll just turn everyone fluorescent green when the waste escapes

The One Doctor

Oh no. Not now. The UK has one of the EU's biggest piles of radioactive waste, as transporting it to Newry would be... problematic.

Building B30 at Sellafield is a horrible mess and very, very dangerous. Chunks of radioactive machines and debris were just dumped - particularly after the Windscale fire. Selecting Newry would be a really, really bad idea for us... but a good idea for the UK, as it gets the waste off the mainland.

Capt'n Midnight

Aegir wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinorwig_Power_Station

They started building it in 1974, took ten years. Nowadays there'd be protesters and environmental impact studies too.

Ffestiniog 1963 and Cruachan 1959 are even older.
Which should give you some indication of how much they cost given they haven't added much capacity since.

Though the Silvermines one in a disused mine is an interesting idea.


The peak price that pumped storage could get any day of the week is now only available on calm overcast days. In Germany renewables and interconnectors have undermined pumped storage because there just isn't the regular demand even though operating and maintenance costs still have to be paid.

One of the reasons Nuclear is insanely expensive is that you have to provide so much backup for it. And construction times and decomission times are so long that the cost of financing the money is a huge chunk of the overall cost.

Capt'n Midnight

Deleted User wrote: »

People talk of Fukushima like it was a disaster. If that's what a modern nuclear disaster looks like, sign me up. We don't even have geological risks like that so it would never happen.


I'd have no problem with this waste being stored in Newry apart from the chance of a UI in the next few decades. We don't have the expertise to manage it I assume.

Map Newry and see how much of the Republic would be affected by the exclusion zones from Fukushima or Chernobyl or the East Ural Nature Reserve.

Now work out the cost of all the assets, all the houses and land and personal goods that the govt would have to pay out insurance on.


We don't even have geological risks like that so it would never happen.
Bristol Channel Flood of 1607.
2 meter tsunami in Galway in 1755.


BTW we have jellyfish and transformer fires are another week point of power plants , though nukes seem more susceptible. The French plan was to house two reactors per site and use the other one for backup power , which is why they are spending lots of money adding backup. The UK are spending lots too building sea walls because of the HISTORICAL floods mentioned above.

Retrofitting safety is another insane cost of nuclear.

And cost is important because if the aren't profitable then the will be the temptation to cut corners ever further during operation and for waste storage. As always the taxpayer would have to pick up the tab.

Investing in nuclear is betting the pensions of an entire nation that the nuclear industry that has consistently been late and over budget will magically change despite 75 years of evidence to the contrary.

Infini

Pff if the English want to bury their Nuclear Waste they can bury it on their own island thank you very much!

Only Nuclear Facilicies that will ever get built here is when they finally invent a working Fusion Reactor!

EdgeCase

Just explain to the DUP that it will cause Northern Ireland to glow green.