VW e-Golf

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FaganJr wrote: »

Ha, maybe? I haven't bought anything yet, so the world is my Oyster at the moment

Dont listen to them, the leaf is great :rolleyes:

Mupchease

The phone app has been updated on iPhone I can only assume it would have been updated on android too for the upcoming ID as well.

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Anyone else see this Golf?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2018-Volkswagen-Golf-E-136-Auto-e-GOLF-Electric-Damaged-Salvage/264393918663?hash=item3d8f1b08c7:g:s-sAAOSwLjhc-i2g

charlieIRL

GaryCocs wrote: »

Anyone else see this Golf?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2018-Volkswagen-Golf-E-136-Auto-e-GOLF-Electric-Damaged-Salvage/264393918663?hash=item3d8f1b08c7:g:s-sAAOSwLjhc-i2g

I was looking at it alright. Would cost a nice few euro to fix but it’s half the price of one here. I’d be very weary of it though.

Shefwedfan

Not sure I would bother with crashed car at 14k, looks over priced to me.....

charlieIRL

I test drove an e-golf this morning in a very significant main dealer. Compared to other garages the salesman, he didn’t push the car on me at all compared to any of the others. I had lots of questions and it was like he wasn’t sure what I was in about. I don’t know if salesmen know much about EV’s at all.
Anyway, was very impressed by it, just felt much nicer than any other one I’ve driven. Would have liked a longer drive (5mins) so am going to go to another garage to look again. I didn’t even get time to go through the computer on it to compare it to any others I’ve tried, when we got back to the garage the salesman was back in the garage while I was checking out the boot space!!
Only negative compared to others is the price, they are an awful lot more than a leaf for a less specced car.
Think a trip across the water to buy an ‘18 one is on the cards, will save me nearly 15k on a new one.

Batesy

The current 0% finance deal is nice and all but surely the price needs to start coming down.

When you configure this with the required extras that come as standard in eNiro for instance it actually comes in more expensive for basically half the range.

Lovely car but way overpriced in the current scheme of things.

Shefwedfan

Batesy wrote: »

The current 0% finance deal is nice and all but surely the price needs to start coming down.

When you configure this with the required extras that come as standard in eNiro for instance it actually comes in more expensive for basically half the range.

Lovely car but way overpriced in the current scheme of things.

It is the only mainstream electric they have to sell till the ID.3 comes out. Don't expect the price to reduce anytime soon.



The factory for the eGolf is producing more cars than ever and they are sold out in rest of the World. Ireland has a few knocking around but check in US/Europe and they are ordered in.......

Batesy

They’re doing really well then.

I got up close to an executive edition last night with all the extras. Really eye catching.

Went home and configured it and it is €42,000

I’ll be looking to buy in 2020 but the eNiro beats the eGolf hands down in terms of value.

Lovely car but couldn’t justify the cost for the range.

Shefwedfan

Batesy wrote: »

They’re doing really well then.

I got up close to an executive edition last night with all the extras. Really eye catching.

Went home and configured it and it is €42,000

I’ll be looking to buy in 2020 but the eNiro beats the eGolf hands down in terms of value.

Lovely car but couldn’t justify the cost for the range.

I was in VW yesterday and they are still selling them, not as many as last year but ok for the amount of stock they have.



Yes it is overpriced for what it is but with VW selling them and no other option they wont reduce, expect reductions once the ID is released but that will be next year

charlieIRL

There was only 2 in the garage I was in, a normal one with a few extras and an executive. Very large dealership and well stocked.

Shefwedfan

charlieIRL wrote: »

There was only 2 in the garage I was in, a normal one with a few extras and an executive. Very large dealership and well stocked.

Up till recently you only had 2 garages in Ireland that would sell the eGolf. Liffey Valley and VW in Cork.



Majority of the VW garages have now got certified because of ID but still most of them only have the exec model because they took it in hoping to sell as a company car.



To get both version of eGolf in one garage means they probably have the most stock in Ireland:P

pobber1

I drove one of these last week and absolutely loved it.
However, the release of the ID3 next year makes me worried the eGolfs value will take a hammering.

Shefwedfan

pobber1 wrote: »

I drove one of these last week and absolutely loved it.
However, the release of the ID3 next year makes me worried the eGolfs value will take a hammering.

They are holding value, even with ID release it will be a long time before they start to trickle into second hand market.....once you are keeping for circa 4 years it will hold value well....in a few years a second hand eGolf will sell well

Old diesel

Shefwedfan wrote: »

pobber1 wrote: »

I drove one of these last week and absolutely loved it.
However, the release of the ID3 next year makes me worried the eGolfs value will take a hammering.

They are holding value, even with ID release it will be a long time before they start to trickle into second hand market.....once you are keeping for circa 4 years it will hold value well....in a few years a second hand eGolf will sell well

The risk factor is what price an ID will come in at.

If an ID is 32 grand new then that overnight hampers values of eGolfs of recent vintage.

Thats because of cheaper price AND a superior new EV with the ID.

eGolf is lovely but the reality is that to justify a recent one over the ID next year - you need a cheaper price.

That will then have a knock impact on ALL eGolfs.

If 2017 to 2019 35 kwh eGolfs drop then any earlier eGolf also has to drop.

There is however a limit to how far eGolf can drop in a 2nd hand market with limited supply.

Its the fact an ID can be ordered in that hurts the value.

Shefwedfan

Old diesel wrote: »

The risk factor is what price an ID will come in at.

If an ID is 32 grand new then that overnight hampers values of eGolfs of recent vintage.

Thats because of cheaper price AND a superior new EV with the ID.

eGolf is lovely but the reality is that to justify a recent one over the ID next year - you need a cheaper price.

That will then have a knock impact on ALL eGolfs.

If 2017 to 2019 35 kwh eGolfs drop then any earlier eGolf also has to drop.

There is however a limit to how far eGolf can drop in a 2nd hand market with limited supply.

Its the fact an ID can be ordered in that hurts the value.

Lack of supply is issue, even with ID you go to buy a 2-5 year old eGolf and you can’t get them, even in UK supply is limited

unkel

Current eGolf is a great car. Buy one now for around EUR31k (several people in this thread have managed that) and you need not worry too much about depreciation. Personally I wouldn't spend a penny more than that.

kris_2021

unkel wrote: »

Current eGolf is a great car. Buy one now for around EUR31k (several people in this thread have managed that) and you need not worry too much about depreciation. Personally I wouldn't spend a penny more than that.

How to get this price? Trade in or scrappage? Is it available in all dealers?

unkel

Don't ask me! If you are ready to buy and have the cash or finance in place, contact all VW dealers in the country and see what openings for negotiation are there. Any deals, scrappage, demo models, ask about trade in value if you have one. If there are any choices that look good to you, negotiate. Hard.

pobber1

unkel wrote: »

Don't ask me! If you are ready to buy and have the cash or finance in place, contact all VW dealers in the country and see what openings for negotiation are there. Any deals, scrappage, demo models, ask about trade in value if you have one. If there are any choices that look good to you, negotiate. Hard.

Surely you don't mean €31k for a new one?

I've been into a couple of dealerships and they were adamant that there was no room for movement on the price. They were offering a good price for my trade in though.

charlieIRL

True, almost no haggle room with VW.

pobber1

I'm planning on buying it as a company car which makes the price tag a little less painful but I still think it's a lot for a car with that range. Spec wise I think it's pretty good (talking about the executive model).

ewj1978

For 42k why not buy a Niro?

pobber1

ewj1978 wrote: »

For 42k why not buy a Niro?

Sold out apparently. I went into Kia today and they are only taking orders for next year. I did drive the Soul but I wasn't impressed with how it looks or the quality of the interior, felt really cheap.

I only drive about 150km a week so the limited range of the Golf doesn't bother me.

Third_Echelon

Driving a 2019 100 kW eGolf in California and absolutely loving it! Have it now for nearly 4 months and average consumption is 4.7 miles/kWh, which using an online calculator seems to be 13 kWh/100 KM (must be the good weather)!

ewj1978

A 100kW?

Mupchease

ewj1978 wrote: »

A 100kW?

100kw Motor

Mupchease

Third_Echelon wrote: »

Driving a 2019 100 kW eGolf in California and absolutely loving it! Have it now for nearly 4 months and average consumption is 4.7 miles/kWh, which using an online calculator seems to be 13 kWh/100 KM (must be the good weather)!

That’s really good. I’ve been averaging 15.6kWh/100km the past three months. I do wonder how much better it would be if I had the aero wheels though.

Shefwedfan

ewj1978 wrote: »

A 100kW?

Max output is 136HP /100kw

Shefwedfan

Mupchease wrote: »

That’s really good. I’ve been averaging 15.6kWh/100km the past three months. I do wonder how much better it would be if I had the aero wheels though.

I guess it is warm in California so they will get better performance

Third_Echelon

Mupchease wrote: »

That’s really good. I’ve been averaging 15.6kWh/100km the past three months. I do wonder how much better it would be if I had the aero wheels though.

Yeah I have the aero wheels and efficient tyres on it. Stock from the dealer, but seem to be very good. Nice smooth ride I have to say.

unkel

Third_Echelon wrote: »

Driving a 2019 100 kW eGolf in California and absolutely loving it! Have it now for nearly 4 months and average consumption is 4.7 miles/kWh, which using an online calculator seems to be 13 kWh/100 KM (must be the good weather)!

eGolf is an excellent car and a great EV. Great all round package. It is also very efficient, not far off from #1 Ioniq and #2 BMW i3 (light weight)

VW is the biggest car maker in the world and it looks like they are the first of the big ones to fully swing to EVs over the next few years.

Shefwedfan

unkel wrote: »

eGolf is an excellent car and a great EV. Great all round package. It is also very efficient, not far off from #1 Ioniq and #2 BMW i3 (light weight)

VW is the biggest car maker in the world and it looks like they are the first of the big ones to fully swing to EVs over the next few years.

I have slowly brain washed the forum :-)

A few years ago it was a just an old concept car or something like that

Long live VW....haha

charlieIRL

Doing my last bit of research, as far as i can find out there was a fast charge option on the e-golf and was an expensive extra on early models. Would this be standard on an 18 one? If now how would you find out if it has? I know our Zoe at work is a "Q" model and that has fast charge.

Below is whats taken from the website I'm looking at a few cars and not sure and dealers don't seem to have a clue.

Electric Vehicle Data
Battery Capacity in kWh 35.8
Battery Charge Fast kW 3.7
Battery Charge Fast Percentage 0-100
Battery Charge Fast Time (Minutes) 650
Battery Charge Rapid kW 7.2
Battery Charge Rapid Percentage 0-100
Battery Charge Slow kW 2.3
Battery Charge Slow Percentage 0-100
Battery Charge Slow Time (Minutes) 1020
Battery Charge Super Charge kW 50
Battery Charge Super Charge Percentage 0-100
Battery Charge Super Charge Time (Minutes) 60
Battery Type Lithium-ion
Coupler/Connector Type Type 2
NEDC Electricity Consumption kWh/100 km 12.7
NEDC Maximum EV Range Miles 186

Shefwedfan

I had a 2015 model.

I think they had a real early release model in 2014 which had no B mode and maybe the fast charge was an option. The 2015 model comes as standard with fast charger port.

On the 2018 model for sure it is no option. It is included as standard

This is for Europe,not sure about the US model as they have some different specs. Like they get the heat pump as standard which Europe doesn't etc

pobber1

charlieIRL wrote: »

Doing my last bit of research, as far as i can find out there was a fast charge option on the e-golf and was an expensive extra on early models. Would this be standard on an 18 one? If now how would you find out if it has? I know our Zoe at work is a "Q" model and that has fast charge.

Below is whats taken from the website I'm looking at a few cars and not sure and dealers don't seem to have a clue.

Electric Vehicle Data
Battery Capacity in kWh 35.8
Battery Charge Fast kW 3.7
Battery Charge Fast Percentage 0-100
Battery Charge Fast Time (Minutes) 650
Battery Charge Rapid kW 7.2
Battery Charge Rapid Percentage 0-100
Battery Charge Slow kW 2.3
Battery Charge Slow Percentage 0-100
Battery Charge Slow Time (Minutes) 1020
Battery Charge Super Charge kW 50
Battery Charge Super Charge Percentage 0-100
Battery Charge Super Charge Time (Minutes) 60
Battery Type Lithium-ion
Coupler/Connector Type Type 2
NEDC Electricity Consumption kWh/100 km 12.7
NEDC Maximum EV Range Miles 186

The current model has 50kW DC CCS capabilty but is limited to 7.2kW AC.

So, if you try to fast charge at one of the 43kW AC fast chargers the car is limited to 7.2kW AC.

celtic_oz

pobber1 wrote: »

I did drive the Soul but I wasn't impressed with how it looks or the quality of the interior, felt really cheap.

I only drive about 150km a week so the limited range of the Golf doesn't bother me.

is that the new soul you drove ? ... bob was raving about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qd_Xi_3DWM

pobber1

Yeah, that's the one. If they just changed the entire interior and exterior I would have liked it. Nothing wrong with it's range, handling or performance.

Shefwedfan

pobber1 wrote: »

Yeah, that's the one. If they just changed the entire interior and exterior I would have liked it. Nothing wrong with it's range, handling or performance.

That's the difference between VW and some of the other makes.



If all of them had the same interior then you would never pay the extra for a VW....


My wife is a VW person, I sat her into a 2017 Leaf and more recently into a new 2019 Leaf.....both occasion I was told where to go

I looked at the inside of the Soul, not a chance in hell....it is button hell, jesus someone must have bought stock in a button company....couldn't be dealing with it

celtic_oz

Shefwedfan wrote: »

That's the difference between VW and some of the other makes.



If all of them had the same interior then you would never pay the extra for a VW....


My wife is a VW person, I sat her into a 2017 Leaf and more recently into a new 2019 Leaf.....both occasion I was told where to go

I looked at the inside of the Soul, not a chance in hell....it is button hell, jesus someone must have bought stock in a button company....couldn't be dealing with it

I'd put up with a lot of buttons before I'd climb down 100 miles in range .. but thats me!

Shefwedfan

celtic_oz wrote: »

I'd put up with a lot of buttons before I'd climb down 100 miles in range .. but thats me!

To be honest I prefer to enjoy what I drive than range, but then again I don't really need huge range.....


Sitting in a car for 3-4 year you hate just so you can drive a little further is not something I would like to do.....


I did test the eNiro and it was nice.....

celtic_oz

Shefwedfan wrote: »

To be honest I prefer to enjoy what I drive than range, but then again I don't really need huge range.....


Sitting in a car for 3-4 year you hate just so you can drive a little further is not something I would like to do.....


I did test the eNiro and it was nice.....

though trying to sell a sub 200 mile range car in 5 years might be painful, I'd wait

look at this story : https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/9/20687413/bmw-electric-mini-cooper-specs-release

charlieIRL

pobber1 wrote: »

The current model has 50kW DC CCS capabilty but is limited to 7.2kW AC.

So, if you try to fast charge at one of the 43kW AC fast chargers the car is limited to 7.2kW AC.

so no matter what charger i connect it to it will only charge at 7.2kW?? Why are salesmen telling me it will charge to 80% in 40 minutes so?

BTW drove another one there at lunchtime, christ VW salesmen don't want to sell them at all and another 2 mile test drive. :mad:

Shefwedfan

celtic_oz wrote: »

though trying to sell a sub 200 mile range car in 5 years might be painful, I'd wait

look at this story : https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/9/20687413/bmw-electric-mini-cooper-specs-release

They said the same about the Leaf 5 years ago....try and buy one now.....:D


Not enought new electric cars are been bought new to support the second hannd market in 5 years

KCross

charlieIRL wrote: »

so no matter what charger i connect it to it will only charge at 7.2kW?? Why are salesmen telling me it will charge to 80% in 40 minutes so?

AC = 7.2kW
DC=50kW.... this is the 80% in 40mins one.

So, it depends on what charger you connect it to.

pobber1

KCross wrote: »

AC = 7.2kW
DC=50kW.... this is the 80% in 40mins one.

So, it depends on what charger you connect it to.

Exactly.

charlieIRL

KCross wrote: »

AC = 7.2kW
DC=50kW.... this is the 80% in 40mins one.

So, it depends on what charger you connect it to.

Thanks KCross, apologies am still only learing about them.

Silly question time - a public 22kW charger located in a car park, I presume that will take longer to charge to 80%?

pobber1

charlieIRL wrote: »

BTW drove another one there at lunchtime, christ VW salesmen don't want to sell them at all and another 2 mile test drive. :mad:

After the first pathetic test drive I went back with the wife and kids so the salesman wouldn't fit and we took it for a good long spin :pac:

Mickeroo

charlieIRL wrote: »

Thanks KCross, apologies am still only learing about them.

Silly question time - a public 22kW charger located in a car park, I presume that will take longer to charge to 80%?

22kw destination type chargers will be AC and only charge at 7kw or so on an egolf, so probably about 4 hours.

charlieIRL

Mickeroo wrote: »

22kw destination type chargers will be AC and only charge at 7kw or so on an egolf, so probably about 4 hours.

well there goes the idea of a quick 40 min charge at lunchtime so!!