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The Taylor-made CVPL Chat Thread!

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    #4322
    [Deleted User]
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    GBX wrote: »
    Eh no ... if you rotate it, its movable and likely will float away :pac:
    in the real world, yes but on a PC screen it does a 90deg jump. ;)


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    #4323
    cdeb
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Rotate 90 degrees, that just means that it is stuck facing the other way! :pac:

    No, that's a 180 degree turn...


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    #4324
    Quazzie
    Registered Users Posts: 28,870 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Harry_Palmer1/status/1375445746237997065

    ISS-view-Evergreen.jpg
    If she is in zero gravity, why does she need a belt to keep her jeans up?


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    #4325
    The Raging Bile Duct
    Registered Users Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    Quazzie wrote: »
    If she is in zero gravity, why does she need a belt to keep her jeans up?

    Is this being intentionally stupid?


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    #4326
    Quazzie
    Registered Users Posts: 28,870 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »
    Is this being intentionally stupid?

    Must be photoshopped. She's also wearing a watch, but there is no time in space either as time is in relation to how fast the earth turns


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    #4327
    The Raging Bile Duct
    Registered Users Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Must be photoshopped. She's also wearing a watch, but there is no time in space either as time is in relation to how fast the earth turns

    Phew, that's alright...


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    #4328
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    cdeb wrote: »
    No, that's a 180 degree turn...
    No what it means is that the ship will instead of the bow being at an angle of 45deg to the south-west, it will instead have an angle of 45deg to the north-west.
    Draw it.


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    #4329
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    OK, well I'm going off the basis that the ship was perpendicular to the bank to start with, which is how it appears in the photo. I haven't really been watching the news... :o


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    #4330
    josip
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    cdeb wrote: »
    OK, well I'm going off the basis that the ship was perpendicular to the bank to start with, which is how it appears in the photo. I haven't really been watching the news... :o


    The ship is currently stuck on a1-h8


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    #4331
    Capt'n Midnight
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    cdeb wrote: »
    OK, well I'm going off the basis that the ship was perpendicular to the bank to start with, which is how it appears in the photo. I haven't really been watching the news... :o

    _117711604_ever_given_airbus_976.jpg


    Suez Canal: How are they trying to free the Ever Given?


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    #4332
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    The chess analogy was better :)


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    #4333
    New Home
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    The ship is called "Ever Given". Does anyone else hear the silent "Zero F*cks" before that?

    Also, it seems to me (from the height of my expertise in all things freight-related, maritime and navigational) that it's the opposite of a lorry stuck under a bridge.

    On that basis:
    1. why don't they remove some of the containers to make it lighter?
    and
    2. can't they use "floats" like those they used to straighten and lift this beauty?

    1_costa_concordia.jpg?quality=85&w=838


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    #4334
    Capt'n Midnight
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    cdeb wrote: »
    The chess analogy was better :)

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    #4335
    Capt'n Midnight
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    New Home wrote: »
    1. why don't they remove some of the containers to make it lighter?
    It's an option. But it's got a capacity of 20,388 teu, twenty-foot equivalent unit.

    Even though most containers would be 40 foots which count as 2 TEU each it still takes bleedin' ages to move thousands of containers if you don't the specialised gear.


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    #4336
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    New Home wrote: »
    The ship is called "Ever Given". Does anyone else hear the silent "Zero F*cks" before that?

    Also, it seems to me (from the height of my expertise in all things freight-related, maritime and navigational) that it's the opposite of a lorry stuck under a bridge.

    On that basis:
    1. why don't they remove some of the containers to make it lighter?

    I would imagine it would take too long to sail a suitable crane there, but if all else fails that's what they would probably do. It would probably be almost impossible for a standard land based mobile crane to reach out that far.


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    #4337
    Yester
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    #4338
    josip
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    How about a few Chinooks or Skycranes?
    You could unload from both front and back at the same time.


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    #4339
    RobertFoster
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    If you rotated it 90 degrees based on the image in that tweet it'd end up all Titanic like.


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    #4340
    Capt'n Midnight
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    New Home wrote: »
    The ship is called "Ever Given". Does anyone else hear the silent "Zero F*cks" before that?

    CjCrN1vG.jpg


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    #4341
    Capt'n Midnight
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    josip wrote: »
    How about a few Chinooks or Skycranes?
    You could unload from both front and back at the same time.

    ro8C2ne.jpg

    Only the empties and only with a bigger chopper and only one at a time. And you'd need to remove thousands.





    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/b3/2e/f1b32ee7461ff1a66ae42c87ecbe90e2.jpg


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    #4342
    New Home
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    ro8C2ne.jpg

    Only the empties and only with a bigger chopper and only one at a time. And you'd need to remove thousands.





    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/b3/2e/f1b32ee7461ff1a66ae42c87ecbe90e2.jpg

    Oh for goodness' sake! You just want to be difficult!! :pac:


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    #4343
    Capt'n Midnight
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    New Home wrote: »
    Oh for goodness' sake! You just want to be difficult!! :pac:

    file-20210326-17-djanlw.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=600&h=542&fit=crop&dpr=1

    https://images.theconversation.com/files/391872/original/file-20210326-17-djanlw.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=600&h=542&fit=crop&dpr=1


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    #4344
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    They need one of these!
    I'm not sure even this one is big enough to reach the top ones.
    Gallery-5-13-1024x768.jpg


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    #4345
    New Home
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

    https://images.theconversation.com/files/391872/original/file-20210326-17-djanlw.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=600&h=542&fit=crop&dpr=1

    Called it. :cool:


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    #4346
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    They need one of these!
    I'm not sure even this one is big enough to reach the top ones.
    https://workboathire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Gallery-5-13-1024x768.jpg
    An Asian crane barge that's currently in Singapore ? Appearing anytime soon , not.


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    #4347
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,308 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    New Home wrote: »
    2. can't they use "floats" like those they used to straighten and lift this beauty?

    1_costa_concordia.jpg?quality=85&w=838
    You mean a "floating dock". Importantly, floating docks tend not to have engines and need to be towed into position. A big problem would be getting the floating dock under the ship.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No.5_Royal_Dock "will be the largest floating drydock in the world" "The No.5 Royal Dock will be 432m long, 85.6m wide, and will have a capacity of 130,000dwt"

    https://www.motorship.com/news101/industry-news/worlds-largest-floating-dock-operational#:~:text=A%20300%2C000%2Dtonne%20floating%20dock,vessels%20up%20to%20300%2C000%20DWT. "The dock, which is 340 metres long, 76 metres wide and 27 metres deep, is capable of repairing vessels up to 300,000 DWT."

    Ever Given is 220,940 GT, 99,155 NT, 199,629 DWT. Length: 399.94 m Beam: 58.8 m Draught: 14.5 m

    Suezmax - the largest ships that can use the Suez.
    Length: 400 m (1,300 ft) (maximum)
    Beam: 50 m (164 ft) (maximum) - Ever Given is allowed get around this by having a shallower draft.
    Air Draft: 68 m (223 ft) (maximum)
    Draft: 20.1 m (66 ft) (maximum)

    You're going to need a bigger boat floating dock.


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    #4348
    Capt'n Midnight
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    https://istheshipstillstuck.com/


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    #4349
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Victor wrote: »
    Ever Given is 220,940 GT, 99,155 NT, 199,629 DWT. Length: 399.94 m Beam: 58.8 m Draught: 14.5 m

    Suezmax - the largest ships that can use the Suez.
    Length: 400 m (1,300 ft) (maximum)
    But it's hot in the Egyptian desert.

    Maybe it expanded by 7 cm ?


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    #4350
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    An Asian crane barge that's currently in Singapore ? Appearing anytime soon , not.
    I wasn't referring to that particular one, just one like it.
    It was an indicative image.


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    #4351
    josip
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

    Only the empties and only with a bigger chopper and only one at a time. And you'd need to remove thousands.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/b3/2e/f1b32ee7461ff1a66ae42c87ecbe90e2.jpg


    Shipping companies load using an average of 14t per teu which is within the capabilities of a CH53 Super Stallion and some of the old Russian MILFs.


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