AEW - All Elite Wrestling (*Spoilers for Latest Show*)

Chuck Noland

I hate the ramp level with the ring! Reminds me of Hogan and the lads moving the TNA ramp to make it easier on the body’s

Sawduck

Is this over around 4am or 5am

ThePott

I had heard 4 but not sure how likely that is at this stage. I'm wrecked already.

bennyl10

Sawduck wrote: »

Is this over around 4am or 5am

2 matches left so you’d imagine 4ish

J. Marston

Awful crowd tonight, really bad.

bennyl10

J. Marston wrote: »

Awful crowd tonight, really bad.

Yup!
There’s been some phenomenal matches(take out the Spears match really) and the crowd just don’t seem to want to invest at all

sky88

Title match isn’t last the best feud in the company and should be main event

Chuck Noland

Is this the last match?? Strange to hear them acknowledge the Y2J is 49

bennyl10

Chuck Noland wrote: »

Is this the last match?? Strange to hear them acknowledge the Y2J is 49

Mox Omega still, but it is ‘unsanctioned’ so technically this main events..

johnnyryan89

Chuck Noland wrote: »

Is this the last match?? Strange to hear them acknowledge the Y2J is 49

Second last, lights out match is on last.

Oat23

sky88 wrote: »

Title match isn’t last the best feud in the company and should be main event

Now it makes sense why Mox/Omega went on last.... :pac:

Very good PPV, especially the last 2 matches.


MJF is the best thing in wrestling right now. I don't even care if he never wrestles. Just give him a mic.

The White Wolf

That match was uncomfortable to watch. Fair play to both of them.

The finish to the title match would have been more interesting had

MJF been genuine in his actions.

The commentary team is not the best, with JR almost snapping at times at Excalibur.

Finally, Rey Fenix is insane.

Lord TSC

I'll stick a spoiler tag in the title of the thread so there's no more need for warnings. if you're clicking in to the AEW thread right after a PPV, you should be expecting them...

Lord TSC

The White Wolf wrote: »

The finish to the title match would have been more interesting had

MJF been genuine in his actions.

I LOVED that turn, specifically because right up until the moment he attacked Cody, you could completely buy he had legit and justifiable reasons to throw in the towel.

Cody was out cold, Jericho was stomping his head and had the liontamer locked in deep. Cody wasn't able to tap, and it was obvious Jericho wouldn't release the hold, so it makes sense that MJF had to throw in the towel. And even afterwards, they sold it brilliantly. MJF was conflicted, but the fact Cody didn't know what had happened shoved home how out of it he was.

We all knew an MJF turn was coming, and throwing in the towel could have led to a brilliant story of MJF feeling Cody was resentful.

But MJF isn't the type of heel you want the fans feeling he has a justification for being wronged by Cody. And MJF isn't the type of heel to be happy on his knees, begging to be forgiven. So, BAM, nut shot.

They can play it in a few ways, tbh. It's a story that could have layers. Did MJF make a spur of the moment decision based on his embarrassment of what he cost Cody? Was he just waiting for the chance to forever screw Cody? The teacher should have seen the student was waiting for a chance to screw him.

I really loved it.

EDIT: I also see people on Reddit pointing out that if MJF's long term goal is the championship, why wouldn't he ensure that he takes out one of the biggest rivals to it. He has made sure Cody is no longer a rival for the belt whenever he moves for it. Layers upon layers.

raven136

Loved the ppv

Loved the last 2 matches

That womens match was fantastic, i could watch them two over and over

triple tag match was insane

All over a very good ppv

Genuinely could understand if people didnt like the mox match but to me it reminded me of the best of his CZW stuff.

CastorTroy

Surely if Cody was out, the ref should've stopped the match anyway. But, yeah, I was actually watching thinking MJF hadn't fought much and isn't he meant to be heel.

During the Bucks/Sanatan & Ortiz match they made a big deal of tagging a foot, but then later they don't mention it when it happens again.

What is AEW's stance on men and women fighting each other? During Britt and Bea's match it showed Darby Allin and usually when it does that it can lead to a match which is unlikely but just made me wonder.

Speaking of Darby and with Moxley's match, I was thinking that guys with their backgrounds must think when they make WWE/AEW or whatever that they get away from the violent matches only to then be put in violent matches. I know they're not as bad and more controlled but still.

sky88

Was good ppv really liked both tag matches and women’s title match

Was an ok title match but the mjf turn was brilliant and so well done looking forward to the follow up on dynamite to it

Last match I don’t know I hated a lot of it it was too long and needlessly ott both guys are so much better than that.

Spears is very lucky man he’s friends with Cody cause he’s so meh

ThePott

Felt a bit like a 2 match PPV imo. That's not to say there weren't great matches aside from the two mains.
Women's title match was good so was the Bucks match. There was moments throughout that were great but certainly felt a bit ruderless storywise for some of them.

Liked the Jericho/Cody match. Personally feel the MJF turn could have waited for a bit just came of as too obvious in that moment. I'm sure they'll walk back the Cody can't have the title at some point though.

I enjoyed the Moxley/Omega match. Some people aren't into hardcore or deathmatch stuff, I can take or leave it. Seen worse deathmatches live and that was almost uncomfortable. Parts of it felt safe enough were I was comfortable watching it but it was a bit long, some spots were a bit contrived like the mousetrap stuff seemed pointless enough. I also felt the ending was a bit of a damp squib. Felt like they could have had a more impactful finish.

Overall good but didn't think it was their best PPV which is a shame as this one had more story going into it. Guessing it's Moxley taking on Jericho next. Not sure when the next PPV will be, probably not till the new Year.

rizzla

Great PPV.

The buy in match was great, Bea is fantastic.

Young bucks match felt like it was directed at some of the AEW tag team criticism they receive. There's no selling it's just big move after big move. Well here one of the bucks sold the hurt leg like crazy, even limping later on in the night.

I still love Riho, she's a brilliant underdog champion that never gives up. Triple threat tag was another great match. Crowd sucked for most of the matches though, sitting on their hands.

There was something for everyone on the card, it's was fantastic. The suicide dive is way too over used though. Even the guy form the Rock n roll express did one, was actually the suicide dive of the night.

Cherry_Cola

rizzla wrote: »

Great PPV.
The buy in match was great, Bea is fantastic.

Do you think? It looked an awful sloppy mess to me. Terribly slow kicks that barely connected, very sloppy transitions and a horrendous springboard cutter from Britt. Neither deserve to be anywhere near the position they're in at the moment.

J. Marston

I thought they were both awful.

https://twitter.com/GIFSkull/status/1193328640043282432

B.A._Baracus

Thought it was a flat ppv.

- Women's title match finish was obvious. Emi was blatantly eating up Riho. So was obvious Emi was doing the job. Hate when wrestlers do that. They'll do the job but have to get 90% offense.
- Funny about kenny. He goes through a barbed wire bed without a scratch on him lol.

Monokne

Ok show.

The main event was complete & utter garbage. If that's what you look for in wrestling, I hope you had fun. I just thought it was unskilled torture porn.

Thoroughly enjoyed Cody & Jericho. I think Jericho is better doing matches like these with smoke & mirrors, a lot of stalling, then trying to keep up move for move with Omega or Page. The turn was well done. I would have maybe had the finish of the match as it was and then held the turn off a few weeks and tease did MJF have Cody's best interests at heart or did he **** him? But it was good.

I liked the Bucks match. I never like their matches but this was good. Lots of selling, refreshing.

Page-Pac was good as was the 3 way tag.

I have no feeling toward either Emi or Riho so that match was just there.

Spears - Janela was bad.

Lord TSC

Monokne wrote: »

The main event was complete & utter garbage. If that's what you look for in wrestling, I hope you had fun. I just thought it was unskilled torture porn.

Its probably sadistic of me, but I'll always enjoy a crazy hardcore match.

Mainly, in this case, because it fit the story and characters involved. Waaaay too often, wrestling presents two people as hating each other, saying they want to destroy each other, and then engaging in 15 minutes of rest holds and chin locks.

Mox and Omega had said it would be a match where they wanted to seriously hurt each other. They built it up as a bloody, violent war. And that's what they delivered. I believed these were two guys who would stop at nothing to legit hurt the other.

If you're going to present your product as a serious one, aimed at an older audience, you've got to accept that this sort of violent war is more realistic than the neutered comedy WWE will put out.

J. Marston

Lord TSC wrote: »

Its probably sadistic of me, but I'll always enjoy a crazy hardcore match.

Mainly, in this case, because it fit the story and characters involved. Waaaay too often, wrestling presents two people as hating each other, saying they want to destroy each other, and then engaging in 15 minutes of rest holds and chin locks.

Mox and Omega had said it would be a match where they wanted to seriously hurt each other. They built it up as a bloody, violent war. And that's what they delivered. I believed these were two guys who would stop at nothing to legit hurt the other.

If you're going to present your product as a serious one, aimed at an older audience, you've got to accept that this sort of violent war is more realistic than the neutered comedy WWE will put out.

Ambrose and Rollins last year at TLC being the prime example. A blood feud on the back of Ambrose saying Roman deserved his cancer resulted in technical wrestling. The crowd rightly shat on it.

Hammer of the Clods

Lord TSC wrote: »

If you're going to present your product as a serious one, aimed at an older audience, you've got to accept that this sort of violent war is more realistic than the neutered comedy WWE will put out.

I don't mind a violent match, and thought this one was decent enough. Brought me back to the original ecw and the attitude era. That said, it's not something I'd be too keen on seeing an awful lot of either.



Also don't think realism comes into it when you have an unsanctioned fight being the main event of a ppv. Presumably this doesn't count to either man's win/loss record.



Enjoyed the title match too, but really would've preferred if the MJF turn had been held off for a while. I don't know him too well, only from AEW, where he started off as a heel in the first couple of ppv's, and suddenly he's Cody Rhodes' best friend.





The win/loss thing is something I hope they drop pretty quick.

montyrebel

rizzla wrote: »

Great PPV.

The buy in match was great, Bea is fantastic.

Young bucks match felt like it was directed at some of the AEW tag team criticism they receive. There's no selling it's just big move after big move. Well here one of the bucks sold the hurt leg like crazy, even limping later on in the night.

I still love Riho, she's a brilliant underdog champion that never gives up. Triple threat tag was another great match. Crowd sucked for most of the matches though, sitting on their hands.

There was something for everyone on the card, it's was fantastic. The suicide dive is way too over used though. Even the guy form the Rock n roll express did one, was actually the suicide dive of the night.

i stopped reading there, she is the worst woman on that roster by a mile

Monokne

Lord TSC wrote: »

Its probably sadistic of me, but I'll always enjoy a crazy hardcore match.

Mainly, in this case, because it fit the story and characters involved. Waaaay too often, wrestling presents two people as hating each other, saying they want to destroy each other, and then engaging in 15 minutes of rest holds and chin locks.

Mox and Omega had said it would be a match where they wanted to seriously hurt each other. They built it up as a bloody, violent war. And that's what they delivered. I believed these were two guys who would stop at nothing to legit hurt the other.

If you're going to present your product as a serious one, aimed at an older audience, you've got to accept that this sort of violent war is more realistic than the neutered comedy WWE will put out.

Quite apart from how lacking in any charm the match was, violent spot after violent spot, I'm not sure I get you here?

What was the story? Ambrose attacked Omega but we were never told why he hated him, were we? And Omega never seemed that fussed. I can't remember a big promo he did, and he's been doing comedy segments with silly entrances & wacky videos the last few weeks on Dynamite. Why did they hate each other? What were they fighting over?

The same could be said of the Mox - Janela match. Just a complete absence of story. Garbage wrestling for the sake of it.

I was never into CZW or that type of thing myself, I look for reason & logic in wrestling.

cian68

The closest I can get to the story is they wouldn't sanction the match because of Moxley's history/reputation so he swore to make it ultraviolent to basically punish AEW for not sanctioning it. I enjoy a bit of hardcore nonsense but I would prefer G1 Moxley vs G1 Omega

CastorTroy

The title match was officially the main event. The lights out match was meant as being outside the official show where they could disavow it. At least that's my understanding.
Of course, that's the second one Moxley was involved in, isn't it? Wasn't his match with Janela one as well?