Eurovision Song Contest 2019

Eymmuroutraged Danu

It was all very hush hush how she got the gig and the song got the nod also? She just appeared and no general explanation how the entry got chosen?
Obviously who you know in RTE if that is the best they could stoke up.

Apparently we got the lowest votes out of EVERY country in the competition (obviously less voting in semi final of course) but it is pretty damning result.

At least entries from the like of Jedward and Dustin were utter p*sstakes really and just a bit of (awful) craic. But this entry seemed to take itself seriously as a song/artist

Wilberto

Eymmuroutraged Danu wrote: »

Apparently we got the lowest votes out of EVERY country in the competition (obviously less voting in semi final of course) but it is pretty damning result.

Yup. 16 points. Only three televoting points, and they came from the UK.


Moldova juries gave us 5, and the Italian juries gave us 8 (I'm still trying to figure out that one!)




Next up was Austria (which I actually quite liked) on 21.

dxhound2005

Eymmuroutraged Danu wrote: »

It was all very hush hush how she got the gig and the song got the nod also? She just appeared and no general explanation how the entry got chosen?
Obviously who you know in RTE if that is the best they could stoke up.

Apparently we got the lowest votes out of EVERY country in the competition (obviously less voting in semi final of course) but it is pretty damning result.

Graham Norton said on BBC radio this morning that Ireland came 11th in the semi finals. I was going to look up the votes to see if that was correct. Where did you find the results with Ireland being the lowest?

fryup

i'm in love with Lucy,

(had a wet dream about her last night )

newirishman

fryup wrote: »

i'm in love with Lucy,

(had a wet dream about her last night )

Well, thanks for sharing.

Eymmuroutraged Danu

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Graham Norton said on BBC radio this morning that Ireland came 11th in the semi finals. I was going to look up the votes to see if that was correct. Where did you find the results with Ireland being the lowest?

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2019/0519/1050391-eurovision-results-reveal-ireland-finished-last-place/

fryup

newirishman wrote: »

Well, thanks for sharing.

she is gorgeous though isn't she

Wilberto

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Graham Norton said on BBC radio this morning that Ireland came 11th in the semi finals. I was going to look up the votes to see if that was correct. Where did you find the results with Ireland being the lowest?

Better source here.

Seamai

Wilberto wrote: »

Yup. 16 points. Only three televoting points, and they came from the UK.


Moldova juries gave us 5, and the Italian juries gave us 8 (I'm still trying to figure out that one!)




Next up was Austria (which I actually quite liked) on 21.

Italian go for that tranny / drag look which Sarah McTernan had going on.
I've been to La Bella Paese enough to know what makes the men tick, subtlety isn't their thing, brassy and bold does it.

alchemist33

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Graham Norton said on BBC radio this morning that Ireland came 11th in the semi finals. I was going to look up the votes to see if that was correct. Where did you find the results with Ireland being the lowest?

Was he being charitable and meant "joint eleventh"?

DebDynamite

I’m starting to get a hit peed off with the love-in that seems to be going on with the juries and Sweden. To be fair to Sweden, they usually come up with great tunes, and usually deserve their high placing, but i’m sorry, their song this year did not deserve to top the jury vote. It was a generic, middle of the road, dated song, you might’ve heard on the radio in the 90s. It’s only a matter of time before Sweden beat our record, if this is the carry on. Sweden could enter any kind of half decent song, and they’ll be amongst the favourites, because the bookies know how much the juries favour them.
I usually like Sweden, they do good pop songs, and they “get” Eurovision, but the favouritism is starting to grate.

fryup

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

The Netherlands staging still not great apparently, he just sits at the piano for the entire performance.

does he even play it? he didn't for the encore

DebDynamite

fryup wrote: »

does he even play it? he didn't for the encore

I’m sure he can play the piano, but I’m not sure if they actually play live instruments, or if it’s always a backing track

yerwanthere123

fryup wrote: »

does he even play it? he didn't for the encore

Nope, no live instruments are played at Eurovision

I don't doubt he can play piano though.

fryup

backing track? bit of a cheat then? thought all music performed was supposed to be live??

or am i still living in ABBA times?

Wilberto

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Nope, no live instruments are played at Eurovision

This is what I've heard as well. Any instruments up there are essentially just props as it'd take far too long to set up in between acts otherwise.




Makes sense really, when you think about it.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

The thing about the political voting is that it doesn’t matter that much because each country that benefits will only get high votes from a few countries. Like Greece —> Cyprus and Cyprus —> Greece. Maybe Malta in there too. That not enough to win the show. When Ireland had all their ‘90s victories, that kind of neighbourly voting went on too. The cream rises to the top regardless. If the countries who get a handful of political votes aren’t good enough otherwise, the benefit is minimal.

Wilberto

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

The think about the political voting is that it doesn’t matter that much because each country that benefits will only get high votes from a few countries. Like Greece —> Cyprus and Cyprus —> Greece. Maybe Malta in there too. That not enough to win the show. When Ireland had all their ‘90s victories, that kind of neighbourly voting went on too. The cream rises to the top regardless. If the countries who get a handful of political votes aren’t good enough otherwise, the benefit is minimal.

This was always my argument as well. The best song usually does end up winning at the end.




I still just can't get my head around Norway. I mean, in both the Semi Final and the Final, the difference between the public vote and the jurors was massive. I can't see how there can be that much of a discrepancy between the two. I know the technical issues they had were mentioned, but that doesn't explain the semi final.

SCOOP 64

RTE news said Ireland actually came last in the semi ,didn't think it was to bad a tune myself.

DebDynamite

fryup wrote: »

backing track? bit of a cheat then? thought all music performed was supposed to be live??

or am i still living in ABBA times?

Yep, that went with the conductors. I used to love them showing the conductors at the beginning of the song, and them giving the camera a wave. Gave the whole thing a bit of gravitas

DebDynamite

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

The think about the political voting is that it doesn’t matter that much because each country that benefits will only get high votes from a few countries. Like Greece —> Cyprus and Cyprus —> Greece. Maybe Malta in there too. That not enough to win the show. When Ireland had all their ‘90s victories, that kind of neighbourly voting went on too. The cream rises to the top regardless. If the countries who get a handful of political votes aren’t good enough otherwise, the benefit is minimal.

Yep, anyone that says it’s just all neighbours voting for each other, and that Ireland could never win it, really doesn’t know Eurovision. Things did go that way a bit around the time all the Eastern European countries started entering, but for the past 15 years or so, the best song on the night usually has won out

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Just rewatched Eimear Quinn’s performance on Youtube. In fairness, the music is beautiful but, 23 years later, I still hate her voice. But it was still a distinctive song. But agree with whoever said that, had there been televoting then, Gina G would have won instead of coming eighth. I think she deserved a higher placing than that even just from the juries!

Any Eurovision nerds know, wasn’t this the year that prompted the inclusion of public voting? Was Eimear Quinn an unpopular winner? Or was it just people were becoming fed up of Ireland winning and it wasn’t personally about her?

completedit

Europeans really don't care about Eurovision I thought they were mad for it. Literally nobody cares how does it get such high viewing figures.

Cosmo Kramer

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

The song was rubbish in fairness, that's no criticizm of Sarah either as there is only so much a singer can do when the material they have to work with is so bad.

To be honest she was as bad as the song. Was like a drunken karaoke effort from someone on a hen weekend. Honestly our entry was worst of the 41 and fully deserved to finish where it did.

AndyBoBandy

completedit wrote: »

Europeans really don't care about Eurovision I thought they were mad for it. Literally nobody cares how does it get such high viewing figures.

Traditional Europe doesn’t care about it so much, but ‘new’ Europe cares about it a lot.

I lived in Lithuania for over a year, and they are big into it. They still have X-Factor style shows to determine who represents them each year, and I’d imagine most countries out that way are similar. It’s headline news the week of the contest.

When I was there it was being shown open air in the main square on a big fcuk off screen, and there were well over a 2,000 people there watching it (this was when Jedward represented us the 1st time).


There are countries out there that would be desperate to win it for the publicity it would give them alone.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

completedit wrote: »

Europeans really don't care about Eurovision I thought they were mad for it. Literally nobody cares how does it get such high viewing figures.

The camp factor and the voting. It’s really good fun to watch with friends, laughing at the inevitable funny bits that happen throughout the night. And, honestly, it’s just a great idiosyncrasy. A bit cheesy and crap but fascinating all the same. Nobody should take it too seriously and I don’t think anyone really does.

NIMAN

So we came last, eh?

Does anyone know how much this annual charade is costing us?

Who funds it?

Time to knock it on the head methinks.

BarryD2

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

The thing about the political voting is that it doesn’t matter that much because each country that benefits will only get high votes from a few countries. Like Greece —> Cyprus and Cyprus —> Greece. Maybe Malta in there too. That not enough to win the show. When Ireland had all their ‘90s victories, that kind of neighbourly voting went on too. The cream rises to the top regardless. If the countries who get a handful of political votes aren’t good enough otherwise, the benefit is minimal.

Political or neighbourly voting doesn't work too well if you're out on the margins of Europe, so that works against Irl and UK. What neighbouring countries are going to vote for Ireland, the Brits and that's about it?

NIMAN wrote: »

So we came last, eh?

Does anyone know how much this annual charade is costing us?

Who funds it?

Time to knock it on the head methinks.

Ah I don't know, it's a bit of a laugh. We need to play to our strengths and give the other European voters a dose of the stereotypical cliched views of us. Drunken paddies, up for the craic, cailíns in nice short dresses showing a bit of leg and bosom. That'd get us a few votes but RTE would be incapable of trying something like that.

ChikiChiki

Rock and Roll kids was a fantastic time. We should go back to basics. This year's entry was absolutely dire and so bland beyond belief. The song itself made no sense.

NKante

The Irish girl was really popular in Tel Aviv among the other contestants and on the Eurovision circuit in general. She had some personality to her.

If she'd been given an actual decent song and more support, she'd have done well on the promotional tour and thus come into Eurovision with more hype. As it was, the hype around her song was mainly how badly it was going to flop. Same with the German girls.