Almost every position the left has, is actually just an attack on Christian beliefs?

CinemaGuy45

I do not want to copy and paste entire articles so I will post a link to one I like when I put in the Google search why the left hate the Bible.
When I was younger I was very leftwing myself but as I grew older I grew out of it.

Globalism- No Borders or Nationalism
The left is for it but the God of the Bible is against it.

Deuteronomy 32:8 "When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, When He separated the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples According to the number of the sons of Israel.

Acts 17:26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,

https://wsau.com/blogs/ben-armstrong-blog/20344/rebelling-against-god-is-actually-whats-behind-almost-all-left-wing-beliefs/

Atoms for Peace

Jesus was a communist before it was a thing.

CinemaGuy45

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Jesus was a communist before it was a thing.

This is the kind of reply I like I am not a bible thumper myself a lighthearted discussion without anybody getting hot and bothered.

CinemaGuy45

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

This is the kind of reply I like I am not a bible thumper myself a lighthearted discussion without anybody getting hot and bothered.

Religion and politics definitely lend to that.

Ipso

Rich man, needle eye

Leviticus 19:27
You shall not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.

kneemos

Is this a conscious decision or are they being controlled by the devil.


On another note I wish some folk around here would realise we aren't American.

CinemaGuy45

kneemos wrote: »

Is this a conscious decision or are they being controlled by the devil.


On another note I wish some folk around here would realise we aren't American.

The United States has 300 million people who for the most part speak English.
I have used my fair share of Fater Ted quotes but they only get you so far.

As for the thread subject, it is meant to be tongue in cheek however I am sure the author I quoted was 100% serious.:)

Zaph

The source is a conservative radio station that broadcasts the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc. I hardly think it's the most objective source for the starting point of a discussion like this.

CinemaGuy45

Edit here is another one from him.
The Myth of Dinosaurs the Reality of Dragons https://wsau.com/blogs/ben-armstrong-blog/20344/the-myth-of-dinosaurs-the-reality-of-dragons/

You see Game of Thrones was right.:D

Wheety

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Jesus was a communist before it was a thing.

Jesus was Batman

mzungu

Wheety wrote: »

Jesus was Batman

No, no, no no. That was Bruce Wayne.

endacl

mzungu wrote: »

No, no, no no. That was Bruce Wayne.

Bruce Wayne was Jesus?!?

I did not see that coming...

CinemaGuy45

mzungu wrote: »

No, no, no no. That was Bruce Wayne.

What do you think the left's position on Batman would be if he was real?

kneemos

The left is a strange and mysterious thing for Americans.

Peregrine

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Globalism- No Borders or Nationalism
The left is for it but the God of the Bible is against it.

Deuteronomy 32:8 "When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, When He separated the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples According to the number of the sons of Israel.

Acts 17:26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,

Matthew 21:17 "And he left them and went out of the city into Bethany and he lodged there."

Think about it.

Ardent

Folks need a moral compass in their lives. Religion has been replaced for the most part by radical social ideologies. And where we once had blasphemy we now have political correctness.

I don't know which is worse.

Victor

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Almost every position the left has, is actually just an attack on Christian beliefs?

Do you mean like giving to the poor?

Mark 10:25
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.

pleas advice

mzungu wrote: »

No, no, no no. That was Bruce Wayne.

bruce wayne's a scientist?

Dante7

The Aquaducts?

Larbre34

Christian beliefs down the centuries, were enforced rather than instructed, with strict dogma and dire threats of damnation. Therefore, they were inherently ultra-conservative and regressive against the progress humanity was making in science, technology and the arts.

Left-wing policies (without going hard hard left) are essentially liberal and progressive, socially anyway, so they too are inherently against many Christian beliefs. Its not so much that they are an attack on Christian belief, they just can't avoid not being contrary. You can say the the same of leftist ideology versus any of the ancient faiths, the Abrahamic ones anyway.

AllForIt

Ardent wrote: »

Folks need a moral compass in their lives. Religion has been replaced for the most part by radical social ideologies. And where we once had blasphemy we now have political correctness.

I don't know which is worse.

Religion is a radical social ideology.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

AllForIt wrote: »

Religion is a radical social ideology.

This kind of illustrates the point made in the opening post.

I'm neither pro nor anti religion, but it can most certainly exist without being either radical or social.

Nor does being a member of one faith mean automatically being resentful to antagonistic towards all others.

topper75

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Jesus was a communist before it was a thing.

Yeah you can make that argument.
He was surely an angry young man towards the traders in the temple.

One of the most interesting movies about him was The Gospel According to Matthew (Italian: Il vangelo secondo Matteo) directed by Pier Paolo Pasolini, an atheist communist. Worth a watch with English subtitles to see another angle on it all.

He was executed for his challenge to empire though I reckon. If he was crucified, then we can be sure he was a political threat because this particularly cruel death was reserved for such by the Romans (see Spartacus, and see the later Jewish Revolt). They didn't execute thieves that way. So if there were people sharing Jesus' fate that day, they were certainly not thieves. They may have some ideological link to Zealotry. My own personal suspicion is that Jesus of Nazareth did too. A forerunner of Gerry Adams if you like. His biographers couldn't be explicit about it when Rome was still boss in Judea.

Moghead

The left and the church are pretty close in central america.

seamus

You'll find that very few people on "the left" are motivated by hating the Bible, it just so happens that the Bible (and the Torah and Koran) are conservative anachronistic texts with very little relevance to modern times, and so they automatically conflict with modern thinking.

It's easy then to get sucked in and assume you're being "attacked", when in fact nobody cares.

Mutant z

You dont have to be left wing to see that Christianity and all other religions are complete bs with no basis in reality.

mcmoustache

I though Christianity was all about charity and tolerance. According to the gospels, Jesus was definitely quite a lefty by today's standards, both socially and economically. I mean, he told people to pay their taxes and went around flipping over the tables of bankers. He was pretty clear about where he stood on the accumulation of wealth and wealth distribution itself. It's right there in the holy book.

I never quite understood how Christianity got tied up with right-wing ideology.

sbsquarepants

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Jesus was a communist before it was a thing.

Jesus may well have been a communist, but Karen was a carpenter.:D

tomofson

Not necessarily christian values, but it is about corrupting our family based moral structure.

Particularly the moral structure of ethnic europeans.

Radical feminism, race mixing propaganda and encouraging all people to embrace homosexuality.

The right wing are just as corrupt though and both wings are controlled by the same people.

FTA69

tomofson wrote: »

Not necessarily christian values, but it is about corrupting our family based moral structure.

Particularly the moral structure of ethnic europeans.

Radical feminism, race mixing propaganda and encouraging all people to embrace homosexuality.

The right wing are just as corrupt though and both wings are controlled by the same people.

Race mixing propaganda? Will you ever go on ya nasty auld bigot.

tomofson

FTA69 wrote: »

Race mixing propaganda? Will you ever go on ya nasty auld bigot.

Thats all you have to say?

Grayson

mcmoustache wrote: »

I though Christianity was all about charity and tolerance. According to the gospels, Jesus was definitely quite a lefty by today's standards, both socially and economically. I mean, he told people to pay their taxes and went around flipping over the tables of bankers. He was pretty clear about where he stood on the accumulation of wealth and wealth distribution itself. It's right there in the holy book.

I never quite understood how Christianity got tied up with right-wing ideology.

Not to mention the fact that he really disliked people who were judgy.

The modern day political evangelical crowd aren't anything like him really.

Grayson

tomofson wrote: »

Radical feminism, race mixing propaganda and encouraging all people to embrace homosexuality.

Would you ever cop on to yourself?

tomofson

Grayson wrote: »

Would you ever cop on to yourself?

Could you explain with a little more context?

PopePalpatine

The Red Suppository - not even once.

It is becoming increasingly more difficult to guide modern society with ancient scriptures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGlBbZXAhKg

DS86DS

tomofson wrote: »

Not necessarily christian values, but it is about corrupting our family based moral structure.

Particularly the moral structure of ethnic europeans.

Radical feminism, race mixing propaganda and encouraging all people to embrace homosexuality.

The right wing are just as corrupt though and both wings are controlled by the same people.

Could not have put it better myself. Leftism is degenerate and anti-Christian and anti-white and anti-European. It is the gospel of selfish and degenerate people who have nothing but contempt for tradition and seek to cause division and strife in society.

Our modern Western Civilisation is the textbook definition of the Tower of Babel.

DS86DS

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Jesus was a communist before it was a thing.

What a load of nonsense. Jesus asked people to accept God and to live a good and moral life according to the bible.

Communism is not only the opposite of that, it outright persecuted Christianity in the former Soviet bloc, and continues to do so in China and North Korea.

seamus

DS86DS wrote: »

Could not have put it better myself. Leftism is degenerate and anti-Christian and anti-white and anti-European. It is the gospel of selfish and degenerate people who have nothing but contempt for tradition and seek to cause division and strife in society.

Our modern Western Civilisation is the textbook definition of the Tower of Babel.

That's some nice trolling, really subtle.

Western Civilisation is the "Tower of Babel", where people of different cultures all united together in peace and harmony for a singular purpose.

And at the same time, they "seek to cause division and strife".

Wanderer78

DS86DS wrote:

What a load of nonsense. Jesus asked people to accept God and to live a good and moral life according to the bible.

Have a laugh ffs, it's nearly jesus's bday!

tomofson

seamus wrote: »

That's some nice trolling, really subtle.

Western Civilisation is the "Tower of Babel", where people of different cultures all united together in peace and harmony for a singular purpose.

And at the same time, they "seek to cause division and strife".

Western civilization was built off the morals of european cultures.

This hippie village you dream of were people of all races religious and creeds live together in harmony will never happen, it is impossible, people of are far too different.

It may be possible in the walking dead and other mainstream TV shows/films but not in reality.

seamus

tomofson wrote: »

Western civilization was built off the morals of european cultures.

This hippie village you dream of were people of all races religious and creeds live together in harmony will never happen, it is impossible, people of are far too different.

It may be possible in the walking dead and other mainstream TV shows/films but not in reality.

You might need to brush up on your bible there Tommy boy.

The Tower of Babel is a fable that after the flood, humanity united in peace and harmony, all spoke one language and lived as one nation.

They decided to build a tower to "reach heaven".

God got worried, saw that if humanity was united, there was nothing they couldn't do, so God decided "scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth" and "confound their language" so they couldn't understand each other.

Can't have people living peacefully and in unity now. Gettin' too uppity. It just won't do.

It seems of course, that God is a bit of a psychopath. First he sends a flood because people are too crazy and violent and scattered.

Then the flood has the desired effect, unites people together, and God has a hissy fit again.

tomofson

seamus wrote: »

You might need to brush up on your bible there Tommy boy.

The Tower of Babel is a fable that after the flood, humanity united in peace and harmony, all spoke one language and lived as one nation.

They decided to build a tower to "reach heaven".

God got worried, saw that if humanity was united, there was nothing they couldn't do, so God decided "scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth" and "confound their language" so they couldn't understand each other.

Can't have people living peacefully and in unity now. Gettin' too uppity. It just won't do.

It seems of course, that God is a bit of a psychopath. First he sends a flood because people are too crazy and violent and scattered.

Then the flood has the desired effect, unites people together, and God has a hissy fit again.

All cultures will not come together in peace and harmony like you believe from watching way too much mainstream propaganda, multiculturalism does not work and will never work.

Look at the whole continent of south america, thats multiculturalism in action.

seamus

tomofson wrote: »

All cultures will not come together in peace and harmony like you believe from watching way too much mainstream propaganda, multiculturalism does not work and will never work.

Look at the whole continent of south america, thats multiculturalism in action.

Ah I see, you're not reading anyone else's posts at all.

Rant on you crazy diamond, rant on.

tomofson

seamus wrote: »

Ah I see, you're not reading anyone else's posts at all.

Rant on you crazy diamond, rant on.

Ignore the obvious crazy diamond, ignore the obvious.

DS86DS

seamus wrote: »

That's some nice trolling, really subtle.

Western Civilisation is the "Tower of Babel", where people of different cultures all united together in peace and harmony for a singular purpose.

And at the same time, they "seek to cause division and strife".

Trolling = somebody you don't agree with.

As for your nonsense about "peace and harmony". Don't make me laugh, the most ethnically diverse societies are tinderboxes waiting to explode, just take the Balkans as one example among many.

And if you think that if Islam ever gets a majority in Europe that they'll be adhering to some BS hippy doctrine about"peace and harmony", then you've another coming to you.

Your either in the House of Islam, or an Infidel who deserves nothing short of death. No other two ways about it. Islam doesn't do hippy pipe dreams

randd1

Religion is simply a tool to control the stupid, and was particularly effective before modern times when people knew nothing of the world.

These days though people have education (for the most part), and are encouraged to think for themselves, concepts which are cancers to religion for one simple reason; they shine the light of rationality onto religion. And religion, not having any rational basis beyond basic human ignorance, doesn't tend to do well when placed up against facts and knowledge.

It isn't that the left is against religion, it's that human civilisation (particularly the West) generally is getting smarter, and religion just isn't as relevant compared to intelligence and knowledge.

It's only really in the poor areas of the world that suffer from a lack of education and freedom of ideas where religion still holds sway. Which basically sums up religion; a tool to control the stupid.

seamus

DS86DS wrote: »

As for your nonsense about "peace and harmony". Don't make me laugh

Hey, they were your words, not mine.

Mixed allegories, maybe?

Grayson

tomofson wrote: »

All cultures will not come together in peace and harmony like you believe from watching way too much mainstream propaganda, multiculturalism does not work and will never work.

Look at the whole continent of south america, thats multiculturalism in action.

It's the weird circular argument of the right. Multiculturalism will never work because there are racists who hate multiculturalism. Therefore racism is right and we should all be against multiculturalism because it will never work.

Technocentral

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I do not want to copy and paste entire articles so I will post a link to one I like when I put in the Google search why the left hate the Bible.
When I was younger I was very leftwing myself but as I grew older I grew out of it.

Globalism- No Borders or Nationalism
The left is for it but the God of the Bible is against it.

Deuteronomy 32:8 "When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, When He separated the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples According to the number of the sons of Israel.

Acts 17:26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,

https://wsau.com/blogs/ben-armstrong-blog/20344/rebelling-against-god-is-actually-whats-behind-almost-all-left-wing-beliefs/

You are so right!! End poverty, end homelessness, don't hate people that are different to you, what decent Christian could subscribe to those horrific views!

tomofson

Grayson wrote: »

It's the weird circular argument of the right. Multiculturalism will never work because there are racists who hate multiculturalism. Therefore racism is right and we should all be against multiculturalism because it will never work.

Nobody said that, people of different genetics are far too different psychologically to all live together in peace and harmony.

There is good people in every race and culture of course there is, that does not mean it is a good idea to mix us all together, I dont have much of a problem for multiculturalism on a small scale.

But the reality is there is not one country with large scale multiculturalism that does not have groups thinking they are more oppressed than others, even if you treat everyone the exact same some group will get it into their heads they have it worse. The race card gets played 24/7 in Britain and america. Race riots always follow.