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famagusta · 12-01-2019 11:08pm

RivetingRoger wrote:

Charlie Swan on rte saying he expects Le Richbourg in Arkle and Defil in JLT.

I actually think the arkle suits them both the best, if the ground is good I will have a right cut at le richbourg

Edgware · 12-01-2019 11:32pm

Any views on Thistlecrack for the Gold Cup? 12/1

NaiveMelodies · 12-01-2019 11:36pm

Edgware wrote: »

Any views on Thistlecrack for the Gold Cup? 12/1

Would love it but sure to be out stayed in my opinion.

RivetingRoger · 13-01-2019 12:33pm

Edgware wrote: »

Any views on Thistlecrack for the Gold Cup? 12/1

Have him backed

Edgware · 13-01-2019 7:46pm

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Would love it but sure to be out stayed in my opinion.

I know. Disappointed with King George performance though finishing 2nd. Still has to be in the 3 or 4 mentioned for March

Gringo180 · 13-01-2019 8:46pm

Clan des obeaux 8/1 for the Gold Cup. Value in that. He won that King George with a bit in hand imo. Was no fluke either. Himself and The Storyteller I like.

HarshOstrich · 13-01-2019 9:06pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Clan des obeaux 8/1 for the Gold Cup. Value in that. He won that King George with a bit in hand imo. Was no fluke either. Himself and The Storyteller I like.

Come on the story teller has no chance

The Mig · 13-01-2019 9:28pm

Wouldn’t back Clan for the GC @ 8/1 with stolen cash

longshotvalue · 13-01-2019 9:55pm

Edgware wrote: »

Any views on Thistlecrack for the Gold Cup? 12/1

If the ground is good, and clan des obeaux doesnt act around there , it's hard to see any of the king George field turning the tables . He beat everything else easily enough . Looks more of an 8/1 shot to me , but I'd never back ew antepost .

Gringo180 · 13-01-2019 10:01pm

HarshOstrich wrote: »

Come on the story teller has no chance

Wouldnt be the biggest shock in the world. He was only out for a spin at Leopardstown the last day imo and wasnt beaten far, Davey went easy on him strangely until he had no chance and only got stuck in a furlong out.

Joe_ Public · 13-01-2019 10:02pm

I’d be more concerned about Thistlecracks jumping than his stamina, has never looked a natural to me and think you’d have to be a special horse to win a GC fiddling your way around the course. I’d definitely be very keen on him at that price otherwise, still see him being placed.

Gringo180 · 13-01-2019 10:04pm

The Mig wrote: »

Wouldn’t back Clan for the GC @ 8/1 with stolen cash

Why? King George winner and his chase form @ the course reads 22?

Angliru · 13-01-2019 10:32pm

Thistlecrack was a fantastic jumper up until his injuries/hiatus, some of his jumps in his KG win were jaw dropping. His jumping at Haydock was horrible but came on well in the King George again. Signs are good. Thistlecrack is my favourite horse so I'd have to back him regardless but 12/1 is a solid price. Only concern is whether he gets injured between then and now. Brittle enough horse for a horse built like a sh*t house.

RivetingRoger · 13-01-2019 10:43pm

Angliru wrote: »

Thistlecrack was a fantastic jumper up until his injuries/hiatus, some of his jumps in his KG win were jaw dropping. His jumping at Haydock was horrible but came on well in the King George again. Signs are good. Thistlecrack is my favourite horse so I'd have to back him regardless but 12/1 is a solid price. Only concern is whether he gets injured between then and now. Brittle enough horse for a horse built like a sh*t house.

Won't be seen tIll March now so should get there. Glad I took 12 as I can see him going off around 6 or 7/1

Joe_ Public · 13-01-2019 10:57pm

Angliru wrote: »

Thistlecrack was a fantastic jumper up until his injuries/hiatus, some of his jumps in his KG win were jaw dropping. His jumping at Haydock was horrible but came on well in the King George again. Signs are good. Thistlecrack is my favourite horse so I'd have to back him regardless but 12/1 is a solid price. Only concern is whether he gets injured between then and now. Brittle enough horse for a horse built like a sh*t house.

He could be great when he got it right but from memory I thought he was a bit too extravagant at his fences, all that outside the wings taking off stuff which, while spectacular looking, isn’t the stamp of a true natural jumper for me. Looks to me like they maybe schooled that out of him, though, and he did look fine at kempton alright. Personally I’d still have question marks in that department at cheltenham but would love to see him win for the owners who come across as good people.

redzerdrog · 13-01-2019 11:03pm

I'd be very surprised if tistlecrack goes off less than 10/1 on the day

Johner · 14-01-2019 3:07pm

piplip87 wrote: »

Had my first nibble today.
I did Didtheyleaveuoutto for the Supreme. Hugely impressed in his bumpbers last season, didn't go according to plan in the Champion Bumper. Two from two this season and at 20s I hope it's a bargain.

Not Cheltenham but the 16's on offer for Didtheyleaveuoutto in the Betfair Hurdle looks good value off a mark of 139.

supremenovice · 16-01-2019 5:13pm

The more I look at the Champion Hurdle, the more I like Supasundae.
It seems that he was run over the wrong distance in the Stayers Hurdle in last years festival but still ran well to be second. His best form is over two miles - Irish Champion Hurdle winner and Punchestown Champion Hurdle winner last season. I dont think Harrington has confirmed him over that distance but shes bound to now that it looks an open year. I think at 16/1 in Boyle's he's a cracking bet (12s in PP as NRNB)

RivetingRoger · 16-01-2019 5:26pm

supremenovice wrote: »

The more I look at the Champion Hurdle, the more I like Supasundae.
It seems that he was run over the wrong distance in the Stayers Hurdle in last years festival but still ran well to be second. His best form is over two miles - Irish Champion Hurdle winner and Punchestown Champion Hurdle winner last season. I dont think Harrington has confirmed him over that distance but shes bound to now that it looks an open year. I think at 16/1 in Boyle's he's a cracking bet (12s in PP as NRNB)

Not with stolen money! Not in that race.

RivetingRoger · 16-01-2019 5:28pm

Strange that PP still haven't gone NRNB on all races.
They did on 9/1/18
We are now at 16/1/19 and still no sign of it

Joe_ Public · 16-01-2019 5:57pm

Wouldn’t put anybody off supasundae in the champion. Sharjah is currently 3rd fav and I don’t think there’s too much between them, though think I’d want it to turn up on the soft side to favour the harrington horse.

RivetingRoger · 16-01-2019 6:04pm

If you were to rewatch last years CH, you would forget how close Melon was! If BD doesn't run to potential....Melon could be a bigger player than SS lads
(I still think Laurina is the one tho)

Joe_ Public · 16-01-2019 6:17pm

Fair point about Melon last year but you still have to make excuses for a couple of lacklustre runs. Three times he’s met SS over 2m and he’s finished behind each time, though hard to say how close it’d have been at punchestown had melon stayed upright. To repeat I do think SS would ideally want some give over 2m so would be waiting closer to the day before making any move.

madmoose · 16-01-2019 9:38pm

I hope Laurina goes for the CH just to find out what she is all about at this level, keep having a bad feeling Ruby will spin the owner to go for the Mares though even though Sullivans been determined that it’s a crack at the Champion.

Charlie George · 17-01-2019 12:23am

madmoose wrote: »

I hope Laurina goes for the CH just to find out what she is all about at this level, keep having a bad feeling Ruby will spin the owner to go for the Mares though even though Sullivans been determined that it’s a crack at the Champion.

7/2 laurina is shocking, never raced against anything and still this short. Same as Percy, only ran against novices and 4/1 for the gc.

sitkaspruce · 17-01-2019 12:30am

Charlie George wrote: »

7/2 laurina is shocking, never raced against anything and still this short. Same as Percy, only ran against novices and 4/1 for the gc.

I agree RE Laurina - beaten nothing. looking forward to see how she goes in Leopardstown in a few weeks, If well beaten by SS / Sharjah / Melon / AJ, She will surely be routed to the Mares race which is turning out to be quite competitive this year if the main players turn up (Verdana Blue / Benie Des Dieux / Stormy Ireland et al)

madmoose · 17-01-2019 1:09am

Charlie George wrote: »

7/2 laurina is shocking, never raced against anything and still this short. Same as Percy, only ran against novices and 4/1 for the gc.

Horrendous price but not the horse’s fault, just hope she goes so we see were she stands and if she fails it’s not the end of the world with the future ahead of her, rather try early than late.

Slattsy · 17-01-2019 8:58am

The interesting thing about Laurena, is this in my opinion... Melon pushed BD all the way last year and possibly could have won with Ruby on board.. (didn't get the best of runs)..
Ruby will pick Laurena over Melon everyday of the week from what I've read.

I won't be backing her, but they know what they have at home. I think good ground is the biggest issue for her.

HandsomeBob · 17-01-2019 1:39pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Strange that PP still haven't gone NRNB on all races.
They did on 9/1/18
We are now at 16/1/19 and still no sign of it

In no rush to make it too easy for the punter. Don't blame them.....going nrnb that early last year on all races was just a PR stunt that probably cost them.

realdanbreen · 17-01-2019 1:52pm

HandsomeBob wrote: »

In no rush to make it too easy for the punter. Don't blame them.....going nrnb that early last year on all races was just a PR stunt that probably cost them.

Agree that it was a PR stunt, most of these things are, but can't see how it could have cost them.

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