John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

amcalester

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

That's been going on long before Delaney's time.

It has to be fair, but he’s in the job long enough to have made some progress reversing the flow.

Fr Tod Umptious

amcalester wrote: »

It has to be fair, but he’s in the job long enough to have made some progress reversing the flow.

A lot more players in the national team now that started in the LOI than back in the 90s.

Is that not progress ?

dundalkfc10

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

amcalester wrote: »

It has to be fair, but he’s in the job long enough to have made some progress reversing the flow.

A lot more players in the national team now that started in the LOI than back in the 90s.

Is that not progress ?

Ah well then sorry John has done a great job with LOI ffs

All them players coming through.had nothing to do with Delaney or the FAI

Fr Tod Umptious

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Ah well then sorry John has done a great job with LOI ffs

All them players coming through.had nothing to do with Delaney or the FAI

And there my point is proven.

Anything good has nothing to do with Delaney.

You can't have it both ways.

Chancer3001

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

According to RTE, FAI are set to admit tomorrow about not informing sport Ireland of money issues around time of loan, which is totally against the rules and regulations of receiving state funds. .

Its not totally against. Its all about interpretation of that one clause.

Fai said it was so short term they didnt think theyd need to notify SI. FAI also said , theyve shown a profit for 10 years in a row so clearly their finances arent in dire straits

SI said , ye still should have told us. And we want more info on the loan AND a review of yer finances.

FAI said ok were doing an audit now. Sorry we didnt tell ye. We'll give ye the run down on the loan after the audit.

If the loan was totally bogus and money laundering of course that would ve grounds for dismissal. If there was some legit reason for it, then we can all move on with our lives.

bohsman

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

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And there my point is proven.

Anything good has nothing to do with Delaney.

Anything good is the basics of the job and overall the league can not be seen as a positive of Delaneys reign.

Players coming through the league to the National team has a lot more to do with the massive amount of money around in the EPL, it's much harder for players to break through in England with kids being signed from around the globe now. LOI clubs have been working hard on making it easier for young players coming home to have a go at it here while studying with club links to 3rd level education. Linking schoolboy clubs to the league with the u13 to u19 national leagues is the one thing he can take credit for.

dundalkfc10

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Ah well then sorry John has done a great job with LOI ffs

All them players coming through.had nothing to do with Delaney or the FAI

And there my point is proven.

Anything good has nothing to do with Delaney.

You can't have it both ways.

What has Delaney done for the League of Ireland? Fined clubs when fans sing anti FAI chants. Claiming they wer the basis of Dundalks success in 2016, even though 4 years previously the fans saved the club by raising money with no help from FAI. No money when games are on TV (which FAI asked for.. Prize money that’s laughble, fixtures lay out that’s farceable. Keeping clubs prize money for as long as possible, I could go on all day

dundalkfc10

Chancer3001 wrote: »

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

According to RTE, FAI are set to admit tomorrow about not informing sport Ireland of money issues around time of loan, which is totally against the rules and regulations of receiving state funds. .

Its not totally against. Its all about interpretation of that one clause.

Fai said it was so short term they didnt think theyd need to notify SI. FAI also said , theyve shown a profit for 10 years in a row so clearly their finances arent in dire straits

SI said , ye still should have told us. And we want more info on the loan AND a review of yer finances.

FAI said ok were doing an audit now. Sorry we didnt tell ye. We'll give ye the run down on the loan after the audit.

If the loan was totally bogus and money laundering of course that would ve grounds for dismissal. If there was some legit reason for it, then we can all move on with our lives.

They knew full well they had to notify Sports Ireland. I’m sure they have a legal team ffs

Chancer3001

Chancer3001 wrote: »

If the loan was totally bogus and money laundering of course that would ve grounds for dismissal. If there was some legit reason for it, then we can all move on with our lives.

Ha ha!

Sorry, just laughing at your "if there is money laundering, then this is a story. If not, there's nothing wrong at all at all" defence.

It has to be the worst I've seen or heard to date.

I suspect even Delaney won't have the neck to run with that. It's amusingly ridiculous.

Fr Tod Umptious

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

A lot more players in the national team now that started in the LOI than back in the 90s.

Is that not progress ?

There are no grounds for saying the LoI has progressed thanks to the FAI since the 1990s. None. If anything it is the FAI's biggest failure, acknowledged when they dismissed it as the problem child.

Chancer3001

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ha ha!

Sorry, just laughing at your "if there is money laundering, then this is a story. If not, there's nothing wrong at all at all" defence.

It has to be the worst I've seen or heard to date.

I suspect even Delaney won't have the neck to run with that. It's amusingly ridiculous.

If theres something dodgy= problem

If theres nothing dodgy = no problem.

bohsman

Chancer3001 wrote: »

If theres something dodgy= problem

If theres nothing dodgy = no problem.

Delaney tried to get an injunction and then "resigned". That is all the confirmation needed that there is something dodgy.

Chancer3001

bohsman wrote: »

Delaney tried to get an injunction and then "resigned". That is all the confirmation needed that there is something dodgy.

Thats all the confirmarion needed? Good man.

Lets hope youre never a judge!

Chancer3001

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Thats all the confirmarion needed? Good man.

Lets hope youre never a judge!

I wouldn't mention Judges in connection with Delaney.

Because one of the biggest and most obvious holes in your "nothing to see" theory is that Delaney spent tens of thousands trying to suppress the story and hoped the Courts would back him.

Awesomeness

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Nothing in the letters is new. I was aware of everything in them already.

As far as LOI , honestly i agree with eamon dunphy when he said giving 2m to each club, you might as well burn it. It wouldn't improve feck all.

IMO the interest isnt there, the quality isnt there and 90% of the good young players go to england anyways. So you'll always be left with players not good enough or english rejects. Neither of which attracts joe public when the premiership is a 40 minute flight away.

If 90% of the good young players go to England it must be a bad look for the English teams that 35% of the u21 squad came from the LOI when there are 9 times as many good Irish players in England.

There was also 30% of the u 19 team made up from the LOI

dundalkfc10

Awesomeness wrote: »

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Nothing in the letters is new. I was aware of everything in them already.

As far as LOI , honestly i agree with eamon dunphy when he said giving 2m to each club, you might as well burn it. It wouldn't improve feck all.

IMO the interest isnt there, the quality isnt there and 90% of the good young players go to england anyways. So you'll always be left with players not good enough or english rejects. Neither of which attracts joe public when the premiership is a 40 minute flight away.

If 90% of the good young players go to England it must be a bad look for the English teams that 35% of the u21 squad came from the LOI when there are 9 times as many good Irish players in England.

There was also 30% of the u 19 team made up from the LOI

But the FAI paved the way for that LOI success, jumping over hoops to try please teams lol

Chancer3001

Awesomeness wrote: »

If 90% of the good young players go to England it must be a bad look for the English teams that 35% of the u21 squad came from the LOI when there are 9 times as many good Irish players in England.

There was also 30% of the u 19 team made up from the LOI

Well no. If there are 2 equal players. One cant get a game with arsenal u23s. One has senior game time in the LOI .. then its easier to play the loi guy. But in time the arsenal guy will probabaly improve more playing against better players every day

Awesomeness

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Well no. If there are 2 equal players. One cant get a game with arsenal u23s. One has senior game time in the LOI .. then its easier to play the loi guy. But in time the arsenal guy will probabaly improve more playing against better players every day

Ah ok. And do you have any names of these talented young players who are not getting selected despite training with Arsenal or Utd or Chelsea or Liverpool and not getting picked currently

Chancer3001

Do i have a list of every underage irish player currently not selected in favour of the loi selections?

And a comparable list of stats to show theyre roughly the same standard?

No i do not. I doubt anyone anywhere does.

Awesomeness

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Do i have a list of every underage irish player currently not selected in favour of the loi selections?

And a comparable list of stats to show theyre roughly the same standard?

No i do not. I doubt anyone anywhere does.

Maybe I can help you. Here is a list of the current u23 squads of united arsenal chelsea liverpool and city. Anyone you think should be brought in in place of any of the LOI lads?

— Republic of Ireland DF Lee O'Connor
— United States DF Matthew Olosunde
— England DF George Tanner
— England DF Tyrell Warren
— England MF Aidan Barlow
— England MF DJ Buffonge
— England MF Callum Gribbin
— Netherlands FW Millen Baars
— Switzerland FW Nishan Burkart
37 England MF James Garner
44 Netherlands FW Tahith Chong
46 England FW Joshua Bohui
47 England MF Angel Gomes
51 Czech Republic GK Matěj Kovář
54 England FW Mason Greenwood
— Slovakia GK Alex Fojtíček
— England GK Paul Woolston
— England DF Max Taylor
— Italy DF Luca Ercolani
— England MF Tom Sang (at AFC Fylde until the end of the season)[12]
— England MF Callum Whelan (at Port Vale until the end of the season)[13]
— England MF Matty Willock (at Crawley Town until the end of the season)[14]
— England FW Zak Dearnley (at Oldham Athletic until the end of the season)[15]
— England FW James Wilson (at Aberdeen until the end of the season)[16]
45 Republic of Ireland GK Kieran O'Hara (at Macclesfield Town until the end of the season)[6]
48 Scotland MF Ethan Hamilton (at Rochdale until the end of the season)[7]
— England GK Dean Henderson (at Sheffield United until the end of the season)[8]
— Wales DF Regan Poole (at Newport County until the end of the season)[9]
— England DF Cameron Borthwick-Jackson (at Scunthorpe United until the end of the season)[10]
— England DF Demetri Mitchell (at Hearts until the end of the season)[11]
53 Spain DF Julio Pleguezuelo
54 England MF Ben Sheaf
56 England DF Dominic Thompson
57 Republic of Ireland MF Nathan Tormey
59 England MF Joe Willock
66 England FW Xavier Amaechi
69 England MF Harrison Clarke
70 England MF Trae Coyle
72 England FW Tyreece John-Jules
86 England GK Arthur Okonkwo
87 England FW Bukayo Saka
36 Northern Ireland DF Daniel Ballard
38 England DF Tolaji Bola
39 England DF Cohen Bramall
40 Wales MF Robbie Burton
43 Scotland MF Charlie Gilmour
44 Republic of Macedonia GK Dejan Iliev
47 England DF Zech Medley
49 England FW Eddie Nketiah
50 England DF Joseph Olowu
51 England DF Tobi Omole
52 England DF Jordi Osei-Tutu
80 Switzerland FW Lorenzo Gonzalez
81 France MF Claudio Gomes
82 Spain MF Adrián Bernabé
83 England FW Ian Poveda
85 Norway DF Colin Rösler
87 England GK Tom Scott
89 England MF Taylor Richards
90 Republic of Ireland DF Tyreke Wilson
91 England DF Nathanael Ogbeta
50 Spain DF Eric García
51 Spain FW Nabil Touaizi
58 England DF Charlie Oliver
61 England MF Felix Nmecha
64 England DF Joel Latibeaudiere
66 Spain MF Iker Pozo
71 England DF Jeremie Frimpong
72 England MF Tom Dele-Bashiru
73 Argentina FW Benjamín Garré
77 England DF Cameron Humphreys
55 England MF George McEachran
56 England FW Martell Taylor-Crossdale
57 England MF Tariq Uwakwe
58 Netherlands FW Daishawn Redan
59 Poland GK Marcin Bułka
60 Scotland MF Billy Gilmour
61 England DF Tariq Lamptey
64 England MF Tino Anjorin
65 England DF Renedi Masampu
— England GK Jamal Blackman
36 United States MF Kyle Scott
43 England FW Ike Ugbo
46 Scotland MF Ruben Sammut
47 Sweden DF Joseph Colley
48 England DF Richard Nartey
49 England MF Luke McCormick
50 England FW Charlie Brown
51 England MF Conor Gallagher
52 England GK Jamie Cumming
53 England DF Marc Guehi
54 Netherlands DF Juan Castillo
— Scotland DF Tony Gallacher
— Spain DF Juanma
— England DF Adam Lewis
— Republic of Ireland DF Corey Whelan
— Netherlands MF Bobby Adekanye
— England MF Liam Coyle
— Republic of Ireland FW Glen McAuley
49 Scotland DF George Johnston
56 England MF Connor Randall
57 Wales MF Isaac Christie-Davies
60 England GK Shamal George
63 Republic of Ireland DF Conor Masterson
— England GK Daniel Atherton
— Guyana GK Kai McKenzie-Lyle

dundalkfc10

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Awesomeness wrote: »

If 90% of the good young players go to England it must be a bad look for the English teams that 35% of the u21 squad came from the LOI when there are 9 times as many good Irish players in England.

There was also 30% of the u 19 team made up from the LOI

Well no. If there are 2 equal players. One cant get a game with arsenal u23s. One has senior game time in the LOI .. then its easier to play the loi guy. But in time the arsenal guy will probabaly improve more playing against better players every day

Harry Kane etc were all sent on Loan to League 1/2 Clubs (similar to LOI) before they made their breakthrough so your talking nonsense saying playing against players in training makes players better than playing LOI standard.

Anyway back to the main point which is the FAI

Corholio

The argument that if there's nothing 'dodgy' there then there's no problem is hilarious. He has been completely underperforming in his job as CEO of football in this country for many years now. Him coming down to open dressing rooms or astro pitches, which isn't a CEO's job either by the way, is simply getting people on board to keep him in the job. I've never thought that anything stonewall 'corrupt' would actually be able to be 100% proven, and for me that doesn't matter. It's just nice to see him and the board squirm during all of this. I'd be happy to see something come out about him though.

He's just been a bad value for money, underperforming head of football in the country. The current state of league and country is there for all to see. That is more than enough for him not to be involved in any decision making, and for a new structure to happen.

Chancer3001

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Harry Kane etc were all sent on Loan to League 1/2 Clubs (similar to LOI) before they made their breakthrough so your talking nonsense saying playing against players in training makes players better than playing LOI standard.

Anyway back to the main point which is the FAI

So the one year he spent on loan is more important than every year he spent in spurs academy?!

Think youre kinda missing the point there.

Chancer3001

"Maybe I can help you. Here is a list of the current u23 squads of united arsenal chelsea liverpool and city. Anyone you think should be brought in in place of any of the LOI lads?"

What a bizarre post.

super_furry

Here we go - Sport Ireland have suspended all funding to the FAI.

givyjoe

This one is a bit odd to say the least. Club in Clones naming their grounds after Delaney, then being awarded 200k of a grant months later, without even having to apply for it. They were simply 'chosen' by the FAI

mugsymugsy

super_furry wrote: »

Here we go - Sport Ireland have suspended all funding to the FAI.

Nothing to see here....John Delaney has done a good job.

mugsymugsy

givyjoe wrote: »

This one is a bit odd to say the least. Club in Clones naming their grounds after Delaney, then being awarded 200k of a grant months later, without even having to apply for it. They were simply 'chosen' by the FAI

Pure coincidence and luck they were chosen!

Richard Hillman

Surely that is him done now.

It will give me great satisfaction next year when we're hosting Euro2020 and thinking of John Delaney scrambling for a ticket from the old boys club. He'll be arriving at the stadium, with the missus in tow and suddenly realising he is not Billy Big Bollocks anymore.

artanevilla

They always cheat, they always lie.....