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Thread glitches

  • 11-11-2018 11:47pm
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    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,969 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    A few threads i post on regularly are showing a glitch where the last post is not visible even though i have an indication a new post is there. Happenes moat notably in the 'where are you right now' thread in AH but has popped elsewhere recently


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Just came to report the exact same issue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,638 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    This is happening now with the Trivial things that annoy thread in AH. It says the last post is at 13.56 but the last post when you open the thread is from before that.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057916953&page=96


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee


    Hi Gremlinertia,

    We thought that posts being hidden or deleted might be prompting this, but that doesn't appear to be the case. We are currently investigating to see what might be causing the issue. It seems to happen sporadically, as I was able to access last post right away, and seems to rectify itself later in the page, but I can understand the frustration.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Dick Swiveller


    I appear to be having a problem with viewing new posts. The number one is showing in the top right beside my name but when I click on the thread it doesn't show the newest post. For example, I posted on the lunchtime with Ciara Kelly thread on the radio forum, but when I click on the thread my post isn't showing - even though it shows it as the last post posted before I click on the thread.

    Edit: Actually the problem is only happening on the Ciara Kelly thread. I commented on the hard shoulder and it is showing for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Inviere


    I (and others) are having this issue in the Motorsport forum, new posts in the general chat thread, can't view them. This is the url when I click "goto first new post" on Desktop, Chrome, W10 - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=108608146#post108608146


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Dick Swiveller


    Inviere wrote: »
    I (and others) are having this issue in the Motorsport forum, new posts in the general chat thread, can't view them. This is the url when I click "goto first new post" on Desktop, Chrome, W10 - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=108608146#post108608146

    The problem seems to have resolved itself for me. It happened a few days ago too and resolved itself. I'll write in this thread if it happens again.


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee


    Hi Stoolcup and Inviere,

    I've merged two threads on the matter so that we can keep people in the loop and make it easier to get additional information from more users. Looking into the issue at the moment. Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    This has been happening a while now for me. It’s usually the first two posts on a new page get “stuck” and you can’t view them until a third poster posts. Usually if you click “full site” on the bottom of the page you can see the posts, so it’s just a touch site issue, seemingly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Dick Swiveller


    It's happening again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,638 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    This has been happening a while now for me. It’s usually the first two posts on a new page get “stuck” and you can’t view them until a third poster posts. Usually if you click “full site” on the bottom of the page you can see the posts, so it’s just a touch site issue, seemingly.

    no i get it on PC as well


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    I can't see the first new post on a thread just now on my laptop with Firefox but can see it on the touch site on my phone with Chrome?


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee


    Buford T. Justice V, what thread did that occur on?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,969 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Still having issues with 'where are you right now' thread in AH on pc and phone through chrome, cookies cleared etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,638 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    this is happening again for me on this thread. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057916953&page=99


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Here is another example I noticed this morning in the Android forum.

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    Link: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057928699

    There was a reply at 11:20 which is not showing on the thread list.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I'm getting the same on a couple of threads, notably the TH thread and another one in a private forum. Legacy site, both on Vivaldi and Firefox. However, if I click onto the responsive site then the posts are there. What happens is, I click on "view latest unread post", but instead of being brought there I get brought to the top of the page where my last unread post is.

    The other weird thing is that if I'm replying to a post in certain threads (including the reported posts one), some of my posts get posted behind the original message I'm replying to, as if I had actually written it before - not sure if ths is related to it at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Buford T. Justice V, what thread did that occur on?
    This one.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057901177&page=38
    Still can't get past page 38 to page 39 on Firefox but straight into in on Chrome on the phone. There's two new posts in the thread from where I can't access it on FireFox but 20+ posts in the thread in Chrome? I'm guessing deleted posts or some such is changing the number of posts being shown on the touch site?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,969 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Just went to the last post in the 'Dublin fire brigade on twitter' in Motors and it brought me to a post from 11-11-2018, 06:19


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee


    Hmmm, I'm only seeing 38 pages worth of posts available on both Chrome and Firefox (40 posts per page).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Hmmm, I'm only seeing 38 pages worth of posts available on both Chrome and Firefox (40 posts per page).
    Sorry, my bad, stuck on page 37 on the laptop and wouldn't go to page 38.
    Post #1481 was the post I couldn't see at the beginning of page 38 but I'm on it now on the laptop.
    Post#1455 is showing up for me as the first post on page 38 on the touch site?


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    New Home wrote: »
    I'm getting the same on a couple of threads, notably the TH thread and another one in a private forum. Legacy site, both on Vivaldi and Firefox. However, if I click onto the responsive site then the posts are there. What happens is, I click on "view latest unread post", but instead of being brought there I get brought to the top of the page where my last unread post is.

    The other weird thing is that if I'm replying to a post in certain threads (including the reported posts one), some of my posts get posted behind the original message I'm replying to, as if I had actually written it before - not sure if ths is related to it at all.

    I forgot to mention, these are threads I'm subscribed to.


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee


    Been trying to do some testing on various threads. If you spot any that are short (such as the Android Devices thread Mr E linked above, which appears to be rectified now - though we'll see how it holds up with new replies), it would be particularly helpful (easier to compare numbers, what replies are being counted, etc.).


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Been trying to do some testing on various threads. If you spot any that are short (such as the Android Devices thread Mr E linked above, which appears to be rectified now - though we'll see how it holds up with new replies), it would be particularly helpful (easier to compare numbers, what replies are being counted, etc.).

    The TH thread is stuck for me at the moment, it's showing as unread although the last post was before 2PM.


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee


    I hope you're not suggesting that as a short thread; it's more than 5,000 posts long :D (Edit: It is worth highlighting any threads you see though for greatest frame of reference, so thanks)

    Seems to be an issue across a few threads, but currently can't see a pattern to it. The Android thread was just 3 posts, for example. Keeping a note of the threads impacted, but a nice short thread that's gone a little off the rails is the easiest to check and double check. And less likely to be thrown by posts deleted, thread merges, etc., though we can see these.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I hope you're not suggesting that as a short thread; it's more than 5,000 posts long :D (Edit: It is worth highlighting any threads you see though for greatest frame of reference, so thanks)

    Seems to be an issue across a few threads, but currently can't see a pattern to it. The Android thread was just 3 posts, for example. Keeping a note of the threads impacted, but a nice short thread that's gone a little off the rails is the easiest to check and double check. And less likely to be thrown by posts deleted, thread merges, etc., though we can see these.

    Sorry Mark, I missed the keyword "short"... :o


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee


    :D It's all good.

    Some threads appear to be rectifying themselves...Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly and You Annoy Trivially That Things in AH look right according to the DB at least. Are they behaving themselves in practice?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Someone just added a post to the TH thread and that seems to have "unstuck" it for now. Incidentally, up to a few days ago, in Vivaldi only, clicking on the "view unread" button on that thread from my subscription list was still bringing me to the Glen Hansard AMA page or returning a 404 message. Again, not sure if it's related.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    It's definitely not a caching issue. ;)


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee


    Just in case it's a caching issue, could we get users encountering this problem to clear their cache please.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,758 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    I've just experienced this, it's not a caching issue. The forum level shows the last post correctly, the thread has no sign of it.

    But others can see the post, so I'm guessing a replication issue.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Mark, this bit
    New Home wrote: »
    The other weird thing is that if I'm replying to a post in certain threads (including the reported posts one), some of my posts get posted behind the original message I'm replying to, as if I had actually written it before - not sure if ths is related to it at all.
    occurred with my post shown below - I replied to your post, and my reply got ahead of yours.
    New Home wrote: »
    It's definitely not a caching issue. ;)
    Just in case it's a caching issue, could we get users encountering this problem to clear their cache please.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Spear wrote: »
    I've just experienced this, it's not a caching issue. The forum level shows the last post correctly, the thread has no sign of it.

    But others can see the post, so I'm guessing a replication issue.

    I can't see your latest post on a certain thread I am following for some odd reason.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,758 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    I can't see your latest post on a certain thread I am following for some odd reason.

    That's the one. It's gotten three thanks so others can definitely view it, yet even I can't see my own post, and the thread continually claims to have unviewed posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    I had the same issue Spear with a post of mine in the Kildare forum. Couldn't see my post for 3 days till someone else replied. I'll post in that thread now and see if it brings yours up.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,758 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Putinbot wrote: »
    I had the same issue Spear with a post of mine in the Kildare forum. Couldn't see my post for 3 days till someone else replied. I'll post in that thread now and see if it brings yours up.

    As before the forum view shows you as the last post, but I'm still being shown the older set of posts from before I posted.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Yeah me too. Not showing mine or your posts


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've experienced this or similar over the last number of days(cycling forum), forum shows me having being last to post beside threads or people posting after me but I can't see any new comments from the time I posted onwards or my own one.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057136508&page=136 last post I can see there is 2040 at 12:42 but I can seen in the forum another poster has posted after me at 13:35


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee


    Thanks Enfilade. Happened for me too. Locking that thread to see if we can track down a root cause. Sorry for the disruption (and to all other cyclists that may read this thread).

    EDIT: And we're open again


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thanks Enfilade. Happened for me too. Locking that thread to see if we can track down a root cause. Sorry for the disruption (and to all other cyclists that may read this thread).

    EDIT: And we're open again

    Even if I log out. Clear cookies etc , use a different browser I can see you posted there after 5pm in the forum but if I click into that thread the last post I see is 12:42 also checked from another pc and not logged in.


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist



    Same issue here on the same thread.


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    Just an update on the thread glitches - Rónán has repaired the glitches that have occurred so far by manually resetting the mismatched counts. However the source issue is not yet fixed so there may be some more instances of this over the weekend. Hopefully we'll have it properly fixed next week.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Thanks Niamh (and Rónán). :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    I also get it on the fifa thread on both pc and iPhone.
    Very annoying.
    It recognises me as the last poster but doesn't display it.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057909111&page=230


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    It's happening here as well https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057501206&page=174 If I click the thread, the last post I see is 6960 by chrismon Yesterday at 18:42. However, if you look at the forum there has been a post in there by Goose 76 at 11:20. I've also noticed that if you look at Goose76's post history that post doesn't show up.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    It's happening here as well https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057501206&page=174 If I click the thread, the last post I see is 6960 by chrismon Yesterday at 18:42. However, if you look at the forum there has been a post in there by Goose 76 at 11:20. I've also noticed that if you look at Goose76's post history that post doesn't show up.

    Just after checking the touch site on my phone and the thread works fine there but not on the desktop site. In both cases I'm using the legacy sites and not the newer responsive sites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Another thing is not seeing images on the web broswer if you linked them on your phone (safari and postimage).
    I can see perfectly on my phone browser but only the text and no link or pic on the pc (chrome)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Another one to chip in, if you don't mind.

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057678744/190/#post108677543

    Last post showing up for me is from this morning. One from an hour or so ago isn't appearing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I’m wondering has this anything to do with posters thanking posts twice by accident?

    If you go back to the previous page in any thread that’s stuck and look for a post you thanked twice, then “unthank” (?) it, that should rectify the isssue.

    I think there’s a way to see it in the User DB for particular users instead of particular threads that it’s happening on.

    That’s how it was resolved about a year ago anyway.


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